DYNO COMPARISON: Battle of the Maxima 3.0's: 3rd Gen vs 4th Gen vs 5th Gen
03-11-2003, 02:39 PM
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DYNO COMPARISON: Battle of the Maxima 3.0's: 3rd Gen vs 4th Gen vs 5th Gen
My latest dyno comparison article will take a look at the 3.0 Maxima SE's from 1992 through 2001 and pit them all against each other. This is a new way of looking at an old debate that never quite seems to die around here. 
The format will be a bit different this time however, as Kevin has given me the opportunity to make these a little more professional by offering to host them in the Shop Talk section of the main page. This should be a nice improvement since HTML is a bit more versatile than vbulletin code is. Thanks, Kev!
Anyhow, here is the link to the article...
Maxima.org Dyno Comparisons: Battle of the Maxima 3.0's
Feel free to stop back here after you've finished reading to discuss. This thread is also linked at the end of the article. Enjoy!
The format will be a bit different this time however, as Kevin has given me the opportunity to make these a little more professional by offering to host them in the Shop Talk section of the main page. This should be a nice improvement since HTML is a bit more versatile than vbulletin code is. Thanks, Kev!
Anyhow, here is the link to the article...
Maxima.org Dyno Comparisons: Battle of the Maxima 3.0's
Feel free to stop back here after you've finished reading to discuss. This thread is also linked at the end of the article. Enjoy!
You own a 5th gen, I wouldnt talk about ugly 
03-11-2003, 05:32 PM
#10
Originally posted by chinaonnitrous1
fine we wont talk about looks..we'll talk about AGE.
fine we wont talk about looks..we'll talk about AGE.
Eclipse, older is better.
Z, older is better.
Sentra, older is better.
240sx, older is better.
Maxima, older is better.
Civic SI, older is better.
shall we go on
:attention
03-11-2003, 05:40 PM
#15
Originally posted by dmontzmax
Lets do it, cause at the track, it was I see cases of old vs. new all the time.
Eclipse, older is better.
Z, older is better.
Sentra, older is better.
240sx, older is better.
Maxima, older is better.
Civic SI, older is better.
shall we go on
Lets do it, cause at the track, it was I see cases of old vs. new all the time.
Eclipse, older is better.
Z, older is better.
Sentra, older is better.
240sx, older is better.
Maxima, older is better.
Civic SI, older is better.
shall we go on
oh yeah? betcha my 5th gen dropps more panties than your 3rd gen after we come home from the track.
03-11-2003, 05:49 PM
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Steve,
You seem to stress that wheel weight has a significant impact on how fast the car is. My 18x8.5's are 24lbs. each. However, I am also boosting 8lbs. of boost through my Vortech V1. It is my understanding that the more power/torque you have, the less and less important wheel weights are. For example, Comparing a '96 Mustang GT 5spd to a 2000 Civic Si 5spd; while the Mustang would probubly just edge out the civic in the quarter mile, it has a lot more HP and like 160lb-ft more torque. Wheel weight would have significantly less impact on the mustang then the civic, right?
You seem to stress that wheel weight has a significant impact on how fast the car is. My 18x8.5's are 24lbs. each. However, I am also boosting 8lbs. of boost through my Vortech V1. It is my understanding that the more power/torque you have, the less and less important wheel weights are. For example, Comparing a '96 Mustang GT 5spd to a 2000 Civic Si 5spd; while the Mustang would probubly just edge out the civic in the quarter mile, it has a lot more HP and like 160lb-ft more torque. Wheel weight would have significantly less impact on the mustang then the civic, right?
03-11-2003, 05:58 PM
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Originally posted by Soul Fly
But I figure, if you're doin all dyno comparisons...why not include the VG?
But I figure, if you're doin all dyno comparisons...why not include the VG?
03-11-2003, 06:04 PM
#23
Originally posted by Craig Mack
Wheel weight would have significantly less impact on the mustang then the civic, right?
Wheel weight would have significantly less impact on the mustang then the civic, right?
My only observation is that aerodynamics were left out of the comparison. Surely someone has access to a wind tunnel.
-hype
03-11-2003, 06:24 PM
#26
Originally posted by chinaonnitrous1
ok ok..no use fighting were all brothers here.....im just a younger..cooler...and faster one
ok ok..no use fighting were all brothers here.....im just a younger..cooler...and faster one
03-11-2003, 06:29 PM
#27
Originally posted by dmontzmax
and I am the older, better looking and knows how to handle his ish.
and I am the older, better looking and knows how to handle his ish.
older..worn out..random weird noises..loud motor...you know this mud slinging will never ever ever go anywhere right? ahhaha
03-11-2003, 06:41 PM
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Originally posted by xHypex
Like everything the more of something you have (torque in this case) the less percentage loss you end up with overall (due to the wheel weight). That's why heavy wheels kill Civics and don't affect us as much. Also, heavier wheels on high power cars aren't always a bad thing because usually they have wider tires to get the power to the ground. Thus, as with everything the article is a generalization that doesn't and can't really take every variable into consideration.
-hype
Like everything the more of something you have (torque in this case) the less percentage loss you end up with overall (due to the wheel weight). That's why heavy wheels kill Civics and don't affect us as much. Also, heavier wheels on high power cars aren't always a bad thing because usually they have wider tires to get the power to the ground. Thus, as with everything the article is a generalization that doesn't and can't really take every variable into consideration.
-hype
03-11-2003, 07:15 PM
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Steve, very nice writeup! 
Thanks for taking the 15 minutes out of your day to make that contribution to our our community.
Could you please solve the rest of the worlds debates and problems by Friday? Then you would be SUPER
!!
Thanks for taking the 15 minutes out of your day to make that contribution to our our community.
Could you please solve the rest of the worlds debates and problems by Friday? Then you would be SUPER
!!
03-11-2003, 07:38 PM
#31
NICE
After reading that article, those SSR competions in 17" weighing in at 13 lbs each are looking much much much much more attractive despite their higher price. Especially to the 5th gen 17 OEM guys.
I was always one not to spend more than $150 per rim on wheels. I think I'm gonna spend more now
DW
After reading that article, those SSR competions in 17" weighing in at 13 lbs each are looking much much much much more attractive despite their higher price. Especially to the 5th gen 17 OEM guys.
I was always one not to spend more than $150 per rim on wheels. I think I'm gonna spend more now
DW
03-11-2003, 08:25 PM
#33
Originally posted by chinaonnitrous1
.. older..worn out..random weird noises..loud motor...you know this mud slinging will never ever ever go anywhere right? ahhaha
..
older..worn out..random weird noises..loud motor...you know this mud slinging will never ever ever go anywhere right? ahhaha
I will take you out on the twisties
Give me time and I will have you on the flats...
I know it will never stop, it is fun...cause, I know what is up, I could afford a newer max, but prefer my 3rd gen, just more fun and I have driven many different max's.
03-11-2003, 08:39 PM
#34
Originally posted by dmontzmax
not mine 260k and seems more reliable than the newer ones, I never had to replace a maf, or hardly anything for that matter
I will take you out on the twisties
Give me time and I will have you on the flats...
I know it will never stop, it is fun...cause, I know what is up, I could afford a newer max, but prefer my 3rd gen, just more fun and I have driven many different max's.
not mine 260k and seems more reliable than the newer ones, I never had to replace a maf, or hardly anything for that matter
I will take you out on the twisties
Give me time and I will have you on the flats...
I know it will never stop, it is fun...cause, I know what is up, I could afford a newer max, but prefer my 3rd gen, just more fun and I have driven many different max's.
03-11-2003, 08:48 PM
#35
Originally posted by Soul Fly
why not the VG30E? if you're gonna have the resarch about it...why not include 'em all?
yeah, sprintmax, you dont like me....oh well - VG's are still here.
why not the VG30E? if you're gonna have the resarch about it...why not include 'em all?
yeah, sprintmax, you dont like me....oh well - VG's are still here.
