why do rims cost so much?
04-26-2003 | 09:38 AM
#41
Originally posted by Clayton94GXE
I just bought a new set of 97 - 99 SE wheels, and I weighed them at about 20 - 21 lbs a piece. Now it was with a fish scale so I don't know how accurate it was.
I just bought a new set of 97 - 99 SE wheels, and I weighed them at about 20 - 21 lbs a piece. Now it was with a fish scale so I don't know how accurate it was.
04-26-2003 | 01:51 PM
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Re: why do rims cost so much?
Originally posted by Allen
$900, couple grand, several grand... what's up with that? does anyone else feel it's kinda stupid to pay $1000 or more for pieces of metal that don't give your car anymore power? it gives it some style (and only to people who care, don't try picking up girls by getting custom rims because no one other that people who care about rims gives a f*ck) but in reality cost the manufacturers $30 to make??
$900, couple grand, several grand... what's up with that? does anyone else feel it's kinda stupid to pay $1000 or more for pieces of metal that don't give your car anymore power? it gives it some style (and only to people who care, don't try picking up girls by getting custom rims because no one other that people who care about rims gives a f*ck) but in reality cost the manufacturers $30 to make??
04-26-2003 | 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by foodmanry
Damn..bringing chicks into this is a whole other matter. There are many ways to land a chick without spending the dough.
Damn..bringing chicks into this is a whole other matter. There are many ways to land a chick without spending the dough.
04-26-2003 | 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by foodmanry
With tires you are looking at about 40 to 45 pounds a piece. I think the rims alone are 24 pounds.
With tires you are looking at about 40 to 45 pounds a piece. I think the rims alone are 24 pounds.
04-26-2003 | 08:20 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: why do rims cost so much?
Originally posted by Allen
no offense but you're full of ****. here's an example of R&D legitly bringing up the cost of something. Take microsoft's visual studio, which costs around $1000. for them to create that software, it took hundreds or thousands of programmers, project managers, coordinators, scripters, technicians, etc. and it took them thousands of hours of hard work, over several months. that's why a copy of their software costs $1000. now let's take $1000 rims. for them to research and develop them, it did NOT take thousands of people working together thousands of hours. It took a few guys that know what they're doing a hundred hours at the most. It's not that hard when you have software that tells you everything about how a new rim design will act, it doesn't take THAT long or that much effort for R&D then. but according to you, to recoup the costs of that R&D, they mark up their rims to $1000. that's bullsh!t, the ONLY reason why they cost so much is because stupid people will pay for them, like I said earlier. It's not that they don't have enough machines or tools. That reason, which by the way is a popular excuse for THEM to tell you when asked why they take so long to make or cost so much, is analogous to when the PS2 or new game systems come out. At first they come at slowly, claiming that they can't be produced fast enough. It's just a ploy to get demand to a fever pitch and have people paying all sorts of money for them. Why do you think when the PS2 came out people were selling them on eBay for $700? Because Japan didn't have enough machines or tools to make PS2s fast enough????? Hahahahahaha, ignorance. And why do you think the rims cost $1000 then? Well apparently, you DO think it's because of a lack of machines and tools. Ok, fine, clearly ignore how with all the money they make they could easily buy more machines, and ignore how limiting the number of machines they have would be hugely advantageous to their business, giving them further incentive to do so, and also ignore how the R&D doesn't take that long at all. If you ignore all those things, then you would be right. A while ago I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about Jesse James building an all new motorcycle design and building it for himself, and they showed the process of making the rims. The rims he created were EXTREMELY unique, complicated, and by your logic would take R&D so much time to come up with that they'd sell for $5000. But do you know how long it took? It took Jesse a few hours to draw the designs, and then working with another specialist (who used computer software to analyze the rim design) a week at the very most (the show made it look like it only took a day or two, though). So again, the only reason why they cost so much is because people will pay for them. I guess my original question should've been "why are the people who paid this much for rims so stupid?" but then I would've had all the stupid people that already paid for them blindly defend what they did in a superficial attempt at saving their pride. Which is what is happening in this thread...
The "it's art" idea makes the most sense I guess, after all famous painintgs can go for millions, but these are rims, guys. They are mass produced. When a van gogh painting is mass re-produced they will then only sell for $10. Similarily, if only ONE set of rims for a specific design was ever sold, then several grand or even $10K grand would be reasonable. But since they are mass-produced, just like $10 van gogh paintings...
no offense but you're full of ****. here's an example of R&D legitly bringing up the cost of something. Take microsoft's visual studio, which costs around $1000. for them to create that software, it took hundreds or thousands of programmers, project managers, coordinators, scripters, technicians, etc. and it took them thousands of hours of hard work, over several months. that's why a copy of their software costs $1000. now let's take $1000 rims. for them to research and develop them, it did NOT take thousands of people working together thousands of hours. It took a few guys that know what they're doing a hundred hours at the most. It's not that hard when you have software that tells you everything about how a new rim design will act, it doesn't take THAT long or that much effort for R&D then. but according to you, to recoup the costs of that R&D, they mark up their rims to $1000. that's bullsh!t, the ONLY reason why they cost so much is because stupid people will pay for them, like I said earlier. It's not that they don't have enough machines or tools. That reason, which by the way is a popular excuse for THEM to tell you when asked why they take so long to make or cost so much, is analogous to when the PS2 or new game systems come out. At first they come at slowly, claiming that they can't be produced fast enough. It's just a ploy to get demand to a fever pitch and have people paying all sorts of money for them. Why do you think when the PS2 came out people were selling them on eBay for $700? Because Japan didn't have enough machines or tools to make PS2s fast enough????? Hahahahahaha, ignorance. And why do you think the rims cost $1000 then? Well apparently, you DO think it's because of a lack of machines and tools. Ok, fine, clearly ignore how with all the money they make they could easily buy more machines, and ignore how limiting the number of machines they have would be hugely advantageous to their business, giving them further incentive to do so, and also ignore how the R&D doesn't take that long at all. If you ignore all those things, then you would be right. A while ago I saw a show on the Discovery Channel about Jesse James building an all new motorcycle design and building it for himself, and they showed the process of making the rims. The rims he created were EXTREMELY unique, complicated, and by your logic would take R&D so much time to come up with that they'd sell for $5000. But do you know how long it took? It took Jesse a few hours to draw the designs, and then working with another specialist (who used computer software to analyze the rim design) a week at the very most (the show made it look like it only took a day or two, though). So again, the only reason why they cost so much is because people will pay for them. I guess my original question should've been "why are the people who paid this much for rims so stupid?" but then I would've had all the stupid people that already paid for them blindly defend what they did in a superficial attempt at saving their pride. Which is what is happening in this thread...
The "it's art" idea makes the most sense I guess, after all famous painintgs can go for millions, but these are rims, guys. They are mass produced. When a van gogh painting is mass re-produced they will then only sell for $10. Similarily, if only ONE set of rims for a specific design was ever sold, then several grand or even $10K grand would be reasonable. But since they are mass-produced, just like $10 van gogh paintings...
F'kin commies
04-27-2003 | 05:52 AM
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Originally posted by 95emeraldgxe
rims can even make some of the ugliest cars look ugly - the amount of research and development put into them is also a factor
rims can even make some of the ugliest cars look ugly - the amount of research and development put into them is also a factor
new tires = $104 * 4 for 215/55-HR16, about $526 mounted, balanced, sales tax
new 235/40-WR18 and 18x8 rims, $1100 shipped etc.
Yes, it cost more than double to go to the 18's, but look at what you get for the money. In the first case, you simply replace what the car came with with junk and pay a lot. What are the stock rims on a 98, 6" or something substandard like that? In the 2nd case you do a plus two, the car looks much better, and it didn't cost that much. To be honest, with the 18's, there is zero performance improvement, except maybe cornering. Like many have said, it is most likely that the Maxima is slower with an 18x8 and 235/40-18. It was already pretty slow in the slalom and took a long time to stop 60-0, so 18's don't help that. C'mon now, this is a FWD car! But the 18's do look better.
04-27-2003 | 03:50 PM
#48
Originally posted by Frank Fontaine
Yes, there are, but those are the chicks you meet at buck-toothed ladies' night. I certainly hope that the guys on this forum realize that most chicks hate guys that are cheap.
Yes, there are, but those are the chicks you meet at buck-toothed ladies' night. I certainly hope that the guys on this forum realize that most chicks hate guys that are cheap.
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