Ok, turbomax goes to the 1/8 track
#1
Ok, turbomax goes to the 1/8 track
Ok, yall seem to want to see a timeslip from a turbo max at the track...
and the 1/4 tracks are to far for me, I am lazy...
So I went to the 1/8 mile track
Best run was
1.021----- reaction
2.400----- 60 ft ( SLOW )
9.322----- ET @ 594 FT
9.920----- 1/8 ET
75.35----- 1/8 MPH
Mods- t3/t4, MEVI ( not working tonight ), 3 inch exhaust, 7 PSI
Weight- 3350 LBS
So I am thinking if I can get the VI working I should drop that another .2 sec and add 2 MPH... and if I can get off the line faster I could really be somebody..
So there you go
I did a whole slew of 10's @ 75 MPH
and the 1/4 tracks are to far for me, I am lazy...
So I went to the 1/8 mile track
Best run was
1.021----- reaction
2.400----- 60 ft ( SLOW )
9.322----- ET @ 594 FT
9.920----- 1/8 ET
75.35----- 1/8 MPH
Mods- t3/t4, MEVI ( not working tonight ), 3 inch exhaust, 7 PSI
Weight- 3350 LBS
So I am thinking if I can get the VI working I should drop that another .2 sec and add 2 MPH... and if I can get off the line faster I could really be somebody..
So there you go
I did a whole slew of 10's @ 75 MPH
#4
Originally posted by bags533
not on this trip, but I am willing to give you a 1 car head start from 60-120
not on this trip, but I am willing to give you a 1 car head start from 60-120
As soon as you can't see my car over the horizon, you get to take off....
#5
Originally posted by mzmtg
I'll need more than that
As soon as you can't see my car over the horizon, you get to take off....
I'll need more than that
As soon as you can't see my car over the horizon, you get to take off....
only if we run from atlanta to montgomery ... I see yall might be doing a track thing hows the weather over there?
#7
I guess I will chime in on this one as well. I went with Bags to the track as well. So yes two turbo maxima that were auto dragged. Now my setup is only at 5psi and untuned. Last time we dynoed it, we got 200whp (Kirk can recall what happened after that when I cranked it to 10psi).
The best time I got was
1.187 ---- Reaction
2.444 ---- 60'
9.449 ---- ET @ 594'
10.046 --- 1/8 ET
75.47 ---- 1/8 MPH
Me and Bags lined up against each other about 6times. He took me on 4 of them, I took him on the other two.
So before we start flaming up fugging wars, Im gonna flat out say I aint happy with the #s at all. Not to mention I aint happy with the kit or its performance or anything about it except the fact that I can say I got a turbo kit in my car, big freagin whoop.
Still gotta move the MAF, re-do the downpipe, redo entire charged pipe, and redo exhaust all the way from turbo back.
Remember for both of us these times are as the car was taken to a show as well. We aint take out no seats or put on tiny 15s or anything like that, we just decided to go with everything in the car, subs, 19s, full tank of gas the works You know? We gotta roll down the track in style
Dixit
The best time I got was
1.187 ---- Reaction
2.444 ---- 60'
9.449 ---- ET @ 594'
10.046 --- 1/8 ET
75.47 ---- 1/8 MPH
Me and Bags lined up against each other about 6times. He took me on 4 of them, I took him on the other two.
So before we start flaming up fugging wars, Im gonna flat out say I aint happy with the #s at all. Not to mention I aint happy with the kit or its performance or anything about it except the fact that I can say I got a turbo kit in my car, big freagin whoop.
Still gotta move the MAF, re-do the downpipe, redo entire charged pipe, and redo exhaust all the way from turbo back.
Remember for both of us these times are as the car was taken to a show as well. We aint take out no seats or put on tiny 15s or anything like that, we just decided to go with everything in the car, subs, 19s, full tank of gas the works You know? We gotta roll down the track in style
Dixit
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I would think that your mph would be a little higher than this. I understand the times because of the 60 ft time, but the mph seems a little low. I typically see 76-78mph in the 1/8th mile, with a best of 9.29 seconds. I guess the weight makes that much difference, becasue my car is light. Are you still having tuning issues or other problems with the kit? I would like to have a turbo, but not if it is gonna make me slower. I would like to see your mph from the 1/4 mile too.
#9
Well, the lone 3rd gen was also there...My competitor was a DRAG TRUCK w/ a woman driving, here's the WHOLE slip.
ME------------------DRAG TRUCK
1.004 --- Reaction --- .931
2.604 --- 60 Ft --- 1.650
10.718 --- ET @ 594 ft - 7.061
11.445 --- 1/8 ET --- 7.567
61.97 --- 1/8 MPH --- 89.05
ME------------------DRAG TRUCK
1.004 --- Reaction --- .931
2.604 --- 60 Ft --- 1.650
10.718 --- ET @ 594 ft - 7.061
11.445 --- 1/8 ET --- 7.567
61.97 --- 1/8 MPH --- 89.05
#11
Originally posted by slammed95
What kind of times were you guys running N/A? Seems pretty slow, even with thos 60's. Full interior with spare and sub box on 17's I run 9.7's, so even if your turbo's were only adding 50hp you should still be quicker right?
What kind of times were you guys running N/A? Seems pretty slow, even with thos 60's. Full interior with spare and sub box on 17's I run 9.7's, so even if your turbo's were only adding 50hp you should still be quicker right?
keep in mind that its not 50 instantenous HP. You wont see much gains in the 1/8 from a turbo/SC'ed car, its when you hit 3rd gear...your gone....
You have to remember they suffer from so much lag. However, try racing one from a roll... , i did, i learned my lesson, right criag?!
BTW, for comparison, i run a pathetic 9.6@72mph in the 1/8
Eric
#13
Originally posted by 96sleeper
I would think that your mph would be a little higher than this. I understand the times because of the 60 ft time, but the mph seems a little low. I typically see 76-78mph in the 1/8th mile, with a best of 9.29 seconds. I guess the weight makes that much difference, becasue my car is light. Are you still having tuning issues or other problems with the kit? I would like to have a turbo, but not if it is gonna make me slower. I would like to see your mph from the 1/4 mile too.
I would think that your mph would be a little higher than this. I understand the times because of the 60 ft time, but the mph seems a little low. I typically see 76-78mph in the 1/8th mile, with a best of 9.29 seconds. I guess the weight makes that much difference, becasue my car is light. Are you still having tuning issues or other problems with the kit? I would like to have a turbo, but not if it is gonna make me slower. I would like to see your mph from the 1/4 mile too.
Well I thought so as well.. But with my VI not working I am losing the top end of each gear, even with the turbo. Dyno proved that
I was hoping to see 78-80 MPH.. I am more concerned with MPH than anything else.
I am thinking if I fix the VI the 1/4 times will be better.. BUT the shift from 2-3 is still a little rough although it is getting better the more HP I pick up.
Weight is KEY. I may remove my 2 12's, spare tire, jack, back seat, and my front power seat just to see what I weigh and then run it a couple of times.
The turbo may slow you in the 1/8, I am hitting the boost at 2500 RPM, BUT everywhere else it WILL be faster.
Trust me, I have been.... testing it with faster cars, 13 sec cars, and I am close to them... real close at 100 +
If that helps
#14
Originally posted by slammed95
What kind of times were you guys running N/A? Seems pretty slow, even with thos 60's. Full interior with spare and sub box on 17's I run 9.7's, so even if your turbo's were only adding 50hp you should still be quicker right?
What kind of times were you guys running N/A? Seems pretty slow, even with thos 60's. Full interior with spare and sub box on 17's I run 9.7's, so even if your turbo's were only adding 50hp you should still be quicker right?
And I am quicker... maybe not in the 1/8th, but I AM quicker
And according to your sig I have 2 MPH on you
Originally posted by99Maxima5sp
keep in mind that its not 50 instantenous HP. You wont see much gains in the 1/8 from a turbo/SC'ed car, its when you hit 3rd gear...your gone....
You have to remember they suffer from so much lag. However, try racing one from a roll... , i did, i learned my lesson, right criag?!
BTW, for comparison, i run a pathetic 9.6@72mph in the 1/8
Eric
keep in mind that its not 50 instantenous HP. You wont see much gains in the 1/8 from a turbo/SC'ed car, its when you hit 3rd gear...your gone....
You have to remember they suffer from so much lag. However, try racing one from a roll... , i did, i learned my lesson, right criag?!
BTW, for comparison, i run a pathetic 9.6@72mph in the 1/8
Eric
and I have 3 MPH on you... so the MPH is not bad, just not as good as I want.. I have yet to look around in the track forum
#16
thats interesting...i have a question though judging from your reaction times are you guys still new to the track?? maybe time will getyou lower et's nice to see my car has a shot against turbo cars in the 1/8th... but im sure that ineed to learn how to drive myself iw as only pulling 10 flats in the 1/8 and i suck....
#18
And how do these numbers compare to a 6-7pso or 9-10psi SC setup? You'd be the one to know Dix. I'm just curious, it's a shame your turbonium isn't as you expected, I feel for ya. I thought about an SC, then turbo, but I'm back on the SC depending on what happens with all this
#19
Well the S/C kit was never completely installed and run, I ended up selling it a week after I begun installing it and never got to really test it out. I mean I love the boost compared to the s/c in the send where it hits alot quicker, but the s/c was instant in the sense where its linear and I didnt have to wait for the turbo to spool up but then again it didnt put out as much psi as the turbo does.
Will have to remove the 19s and tune the car and try it out again.
Dixit
Will have to remove the 19s and tune the car and try it out again.
Dixit
#20
Dang, not to beat you guys down or anything, but those turbos aren't very quick. I would have expected low 9s at 83mph+ even with a crap 2.3+ 60'. I've run 9.4s@77mph (14.4@98mph) in 85 degree weather and at 1100'.
Dave
Dave
#21
Originally posted by Dave B
Dang, not to beat you guys down or anything, but those turbos aren't very quick. I would have expected low 9s at 83mph+ even with a crap 2.3+ 60'. I've run 9.4s@77mph (14.4@98mph) in 85 degree weather and at 1100'.
Dave
Dang, not to beat you guys down or anything, but those turbos aren't very quick. I would have expected low 9s at 83mph+ even with a crap 2.3+ 60'. I've run 9.4s@77mph (14.4@98mph) in 85 degree weather and at 1100'.
Dave
well define QUICK.. but, Your correct, a 1/8 track is not our best option
FWIW ... the elevation is slightly higher and it was about that temp outside
#22
Originally posted by releasedtruth
And how do these numbers compare to a 6-7pso or 9-10psi SC setup? You'd be the one to know Dix. I'm just curious, it's a shame your turbonium isn't as you expected, I feel for ya. I thought about an SC, then turbo, but I'm back on the SC depending on what happens with all this
And how do these numbers compare to a 6-7pso or 9-10psi SC setup? You'd be the one to know Dix. I'm just curious, it's a shame your turbonium isn't as you expected, I feel for ya. I thought about an SC, then turbo, but I'm back on the SC depending on what happens with all this
Code:
60': 2.234 330': 6.035 1/8: 9.088@81.14 1000': 11.699 1/4: 13.918@100.28
I'm sure with more practice those times will come down.
#24
Originally posted by 2kprlmax
Dixit
I am new to this turbo thing and I was wondering whose kit are you running, and why you don't like it
Dixit
I am new to this turbo thing and I was wondering whose kit are you running, and why you don't like it
#25
Originally posted by Colonel
Lets keep a long story short. Dix got a BAD install, and the shaft. You need to go into the FI forum and do a search for the info and save Dix some breath and need for Blood Pressure medicine.
Lets keep a long story short. Dix got a BAD install, and the shaft. You need to go into the FI forum and do a search for the info and save Dix some breath and need for Blood Pressure medicine.
Dixit
#26
Originally posted by 2kprlmax
Dixit
I am new to this turbo thing and I was wondering whose kit are you running, and why you don't like it
Dixit
I am new to this turbo thing and I was wondering whose kit are you running, and why you don't like it
or check the SC/turbo forum for a post by MZMTG or this forum in a thread by me.. that is the issues I am dealing with
#27
Looks good for an auto guys...I understand the small amount of lag. Just for comparison I ran a 74.09 in the 1/8th mile with my 99 intake and y...looking good guys. Bags I wanna ride in your car one day...perhaps at the stone mountain cookout???
#29
Originally posted by 2kprlmax
ok i will check and soory for your problems i hope you can resolve them. I was also under the impression that anyone with a turbo would be faster.
ok i will check and soory for your problems i hope you can resolve them. I was also under the impression that anyone with a turbo would be faster.
My car IS faster. People get wrapped around the axle about these track times.
My car IS making 50 + more HP and 60 + more TQ.
My car is faster, without a shadow of a doubt.
#32
Originally posted by max002
<~ only has injen... runs 10.0 - 10.1 at 1/8th
I don't think these guys ran bad so much because of tuning... i'm sure that better launches would've put them at mid to high 9's
<~ only has injen... runs 10.0 - 10.1 at 1/8th
I don't think these guys ran bad so much because of tuning... i'm sure that better launches would've put them at mid to high 9's
#33
that's if they had s/c... the turbo didn't kick in probably almost near the damn line which maybe explains a higher trap speed than most N/A cars that have the same times.
I'm still waiting for a turbo max owner that has all the important internal, tranny, suspension, rim/tire mods to take on the 1/4
Show us some 11.9's!
I'm still waiting for a turbo max owner that has all the important internal, tranny, suspension, rim/tire mods to take on the 1/4
Show us some 11.9's!
#34
Originally posted by slammed95
Ummm, you're boosted. You better be faster. With some mods I could get those 2mph and still be N/A.
This is why I'm getting the 5 speed before the turbo goes in.
Ummm, you're boosted. You better be faster. With some mods I could get those 2mph and still be N/A.
This is why I'm getting the 5 speed before the turbo goes in.
Sorry... it should have been more like this....
[sarcasim] man my turbo gives me A WHOLE 2 MPH on you [/sarcasim]
My poor attempt to find some humor in my pi$$ poor time
and if your doing the 5-spd.. CRYO treat as much as possible IMHO
#35
Originally posted by bags533
well define QUICK.. but, Your correct, a 1/8 track is not our best option
FWIW ... the elevation is slightly higher and it was about that temp outside
well define QUICK.. but, Your correct, a 1/8 track is not our best option
FWIW ... the elevation is slightly higher and it was about that temp outside
Dave
#36
Dave, take into consideration the power curve change when the turbo kicks in further down the 1/4 track. Assuming that traction is decent, trap speeds will be higher and can't really be found using a conversion calculation because it's not consistent.
I think the more i learn about these turbos, the more i'm inclined to go with a SC/NO2 set-up. Then again here in LA you hardly have the ability to do everyday 120+mph runs without running into traffic... unless it's really really really late at night or you go to the outskirts.
I think the more i learn about these turbos, the more i'm inclined to go with a SC/NO2 set-up. Then again here in LA you hardly have the ability to do everyday 120+mph runs without running into traffic... unless it's really really really late at night or you go to the outskirts.
#37
Originally posted by max002
Dave, take into consideration the power curve change when the turbo kicks in further down the 1/4 track. Assuming that traction is decent, trap speeds will be higher and can't really be found using a conversion calculation because it's not consistent.
I think the more i learn about these turbos, the more i'm inclined to go with a SC/NO2 set-up. Then again here in LA you hardly have the ability to do everyday 120+mph runs without running into traffic... unless it's really really really late at night or you go to the outskirts.
Dave, take into consideration the power curve change when the turbo kicks in further down the 1/4 track. Assuming that traction is decent, trap speeds will be higher and can't really be found using a conversion calculation because it's not consistent.
I think the more i learn about these turbos, the more i'm inclined to go with a SC/NO2 set-up. Then again here in LA you hardly have the ability to do everyday 120+mph runs without running into traffic... unless it's really really really late at night or you go to the outskirts.
Now, that said, we must remember these turbos are from what I gather LOW PRESSURE and UNTUNED. The figure 225whp sticks in my head. That is only 35 more HP than say a typical bolt on 4th gen 5 speed makes. Also remember these guys cars are automatics and much heavier than 4th gen 5spds are. They aren't removing anything from their cars, they are running as they run on the street.
Lets do a power to weight comparo:
3350lbs/225whp = 14.89 lb/hp.
2900lbs/185whp = 15.66 lb/hp.
Then take into account the gearing advantage of a 5spd and you've accounted for their times.
Remember boys, were not talking about a basketball sized T100 turbo here, its a t3/t04 or a t4 (not sure what these guys exact setups are but you get the point.) The extra 10 feet down the track it takes them to spool is NOT the reason why they are not running stellar times. It's because their cars are heavy, not track prepped or stripped, autos, and not pushing a ton of PSI yet.
#39
Originally posted by max002
that's if they had s/c... the turbo didn't kick in probably almost near the damn line which maybe explains a higher trap speed than most N/A cars that have the same times.
I'm still waiting for a turbo max owner that has all the important internal, tranny, suspension, rim/tire mods to take on the 1/4
Show us some 11.9's!
that's if they had s/c... the turbo didn't kick in probably almost near the damn line which maybe explains a higher trap speed than most N/A cars that have the same times.
I'm still waiting for a turbo max owner that has all the important internal, tranny, suspension, rim/tire mods to take on the 1/4
Show us some 11.9's!
Either way, theres NO EXCUSE for a FI'ed car to be running slower in the 1/8th with a decent 60ft...I would expect NO LESS than a 9.0-9.2, i mean jeez, im running 9.6's...
Eric