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Old 10-23-2003, 12:46 PM
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this has to show vq3.5 quality

Did anyone see the most recent turbo mag...the skyline thats in there. They decided to drop in the vq3.5 and twin turbo it for 525hp...... It didnt really list everything they did to it...but they said its basicly just a 350z engine. Only difference they are calling the nissan vq3.4 lol
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that "basically 350z engine" started as an '02 maxima engine

I'd settle for just 1/2 of the turbos they installed in that car
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
that "basically 350z engine" started as an '02 maxima engine

I'd settle for just 1/2 of the turbos they installed in that car

that "02 maxima engine" started as a 99.5 pahtfinder
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As long as we're all being **** retentive, that "02 Maxima engine that started as a 99.5 Pathfinder engine" is really from the 99.5 Terrano.
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and just when u thought they couldnt possibly put the vq in another car by nissan....weeeeeee!
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It must be some kind of record for the VQ35 to be in so many cars. Anyone know whether it is or not?

Here are some of the cars it's in:
Maxima
Altima 3.5
Murano
Pathfinder
Quest(not sure?)
G35
350Z
G35 Coupe
I35
FX35(not sure?)

Anymore I forgot, If I am right, that's 10 different vehicles. Probably a pickup truck or something.
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it is voted as #1 engine
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Old 10-23-2003, 06:04 PM
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no it's voted in the TOP 10 for a number of years, I don't know whether it's actually NO.1...
 
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The name Maxima was actually found in an aftermarket magazine



Now they just need to put one in a magazine
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any pics? Scan it? I am on www.turbomagazine.com and can't find it

THis is cool, now I gotta go on www.importfanatix.com and brag to the guys with the SR's
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Quest -- for sure... I saw a Nissan Quest 3.5SL on display while pulling out of the dealer lot this morning. They're damned proud of that "3.5<whatever>" designation
(first Altima 3.5SE, now Maxima 3.5SE, etc...)
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http://www.turbomagazine.com/toc/

No article online right now
Top Secret Hybrid
Skyline GT-R + VQ34 = Why???
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Originally Posted by infinitiblast
http://www.turbomagazine.com/toc/

No article online right now
Top Secret Hybrid
Skyline GT-R + VQ34 = Why???

It had a better balance than the longer I6...I6 made it slightly nose heavy for it's racing purposes.
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Originally Posted by kevlo911
that "02 maxima engine" started as a 99.5 pahtfinder
Nope...


The VQ35 first came in the 2001 Pathfinder.

Prior to that it had the VG33.
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Originally Posted by infinitiblast
http://www.turbomagazine.com/toc/

No article online right now
Top Secret Hybrid
Skyline GT-R + VQ34 = Why???
My theory which is different than everyone elses...

Same stroke, smaller bore for thicker cylinder walls.

94mm bore
81.4mm stroke

I guess we'll know when the mag hits the stands.
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"Le Mans 24-Hour Race
A British private team participated in the LMP675 class using an open vehicle powered by a VQ34 engine (a 3400-cc unit was selected because of vehicle regulations) in a roller chassis. The team's successes include a win in this class in 2000. Their vehicle used an original rebuilt block teamed with a highly reliable mass-production engine head."


Therfore if it was destroked it was only done so for rules purposes.

Again for the fifteenth time i say, 81.4mm is NOT a long stroke and there is NO reason to destroke to rev higher.
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"All-Japan GT Championship: Fairlady Z
Nissan used a 3.5-liter naturally aspirated (NA) VQ35DF in its Fairlady Z entered this year in the GT300 class of the All-Japan Grand Touring Car Championship. All eyes were on the Fairlady Z, which entered this demanding race for the first time this year. A restricter was fitted. A feature of the Fairlady Z is the high-pitched note of its exhaust, characteristic of naturally aspirated engines. With 2003 our debut year, in the future we are likely to see various performance enhancements and an improved menu.

Capacity: 3572 cc
Maximum output: 300 ps (min) / 8000 rpm
Maximum torque: 43 Kgm (min) / 7000 rpm
Fuel/ignition system: ECCS/NDIS"


There again you can see the GT2 car uses a 96.5mm bore with the same 81.4mm stroke of our cars. It totals 3572 cc.

300 ps is a typo... it's really 400 ps @ 8000 rpm
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Originally Posted by slammed95
I'm pretty sure it's the same car that's been around for a while. If it is, then it was de-stroked for higher revs and lower compression, and some other technical mumbo jumbo.

http://www.nissan-dakar.com/JP/SPECIAL/RACING_VQ/
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http://www.nissan-dakar.com/EN/SPECIAL/RACING_VQ/
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Nissan loves using its engines in tons of different cars. Think about it, the VG30 has been in Maximas, trucks, 300zx's, infiniti's, etc. The SR20DE and its variants have seen duty in se-r's, g20's, 200sx's, and a TON of other cars across the sea, and as stated above, the VQ and variants have been whored around in many many cars.

Its just smart engineering if you ask me.
 
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Originally Posted by rustangkilla
Nissan loves using its engines in tons of different cars. Think about it, the VG30 has been in Maximas, trucks, 300zx's, infiniti's, etc. The SR20DE and its variants have seen duty in se-r's, g20's, 200sx's, and a TON of other cars across the sea, and as stated above, the VQ and variants have been whored around in many many cars.

Its just smart engineering if you ask me.
That racing VQ will be in the 2007 Skyline GT-R which will be coming to america.
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Originally Posted by 2k2wannabe
that "basically 350z engine" started as an '02 maxima engine

I'd settle for just 1/2 of the turbos they installed in that car
1/3 here
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
Nope...


The VQ35 first came in the 2001 Pathfinder.

Prior to that it had the VG33.
no, came in 1999. i just saw it the other day.
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its nothing new for Nissan, its just living up to the VG30Es strong past as their "workhorse motor"...in everything from sports cars to SUVs

Originally Posted by GuZo
It must be some kind of record for the VQ35 to be in so many cars. Anyone know whether it is or not?

Here are some of the cars it's in:
Maxima
Altima 3.5
Murano
Pathfinder
Quest(not sure?)
G35
350Z
G35 Coupe
I35
FX35(not sure?)

Anymore I forgot, If I am right, that's 10 different vehicles. Probably a pickup truck or something.
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Originally Posted by arlan
no, came in 1999. i just saw it the other day.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6394

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6394

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6394

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6394

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6394

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6394




And here is a 2001 with pictures of the engine bay.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...&category=6394


Lets not forget the info directly from the Nissannews website

http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/200...er/index.shtml

"2000 Nissan Pathfinder Offers Refined Styling, Premium Interior

Engine/Suspension


Under the hood is a 3.3-liter SOHC V6 engine producing 170 horsepower and 200 ft-lbs of torque. This engine features Sophisticated Optimized Fuel Injection System (SOFIS), which optimizes the air/fuel mixture by sensing and correcting fuel delays inside the intake ports, resulting in lower emissions, increased fuel economy and higher engine output."




http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/200...er/index.shtml

"With a New, Class-Leading 250-Horsepower V6 Engine, 2001 Nissan Pathfinder Delivers Luxury, Refinement - In A Hurry

Engine/Suspension


The 2001 Pathfinder receives a significant improvement in power with the addition of a new VQ35DE DOHC 3.5-liter 24-valve V6.

Rated at 250 horsepower and 240 ft-lbs of torque with the 5-speed manual transmission and 240 horsepower and 265 ft-lbs of torque for 4-speed automatic transmission-equipped models, Pathfinder now has more horsepower than some V8s available on competitors' compact sport utility vehicles.

The previous Pathfinder engine was a SOHC 3.3-liter design (designated the VG series) producing 170 horsepower and 200 ft-lbs of torque. The new engine is based on the Nissan VQ engine series currently used in the 2000 Maxima - an engine named as one of Ward's Auto World magazine's "10 Best Engines" for six consecutive years. But rather than just enlarge the Maxima engine (a 3.0-liter design), the creators of the new Pathfinder V6 designed it specifically for SUV applications with an emphasis on low to mid-speed torque needed for off-roading and recreational equipment hauling."

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Originally Posted by arlan
no, came in 1999. i just saw it the other day.


It is smart for Nissan to drop the VQ in almost every car they make. It's not only smart engineering, it's cheaper!
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Originally Posted by arlan
no, came in 1999. i just saw it the other day.

in a dream maybe
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Originally Posted by 4DRSpeed


It is smart for Nissan to drop the VQ in almost every car they make. It's not only smart engineering, it's cheaper!
Interestingly enough...freshalloy.com doesnt the the v-6 fits the altima. Go to www.freshalloy.com and read their current review about the v-6 altima. Kinda interesting.
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Originally Posted by SR20DEN
My theory which is different than everyone elses...

Same stroke, smaller bore for thicker cylinder walls.

94mm bore
81.4mm stroke

I guess we'll know when the mag hits the stands.
Good theory. I could see Nismo having the resources for that...but not a tuner like Top Secret. I just don't think they have enough of a pull to get Nissan to make a block with a smaller bore just for them.

I think maybe the drop in displacement came from a lower compression ratio. I doubt Top Secret wanted to keep the stock ratio of 10.3:1. They probably went with a more turbo friendly number, like 8.X:1 a la the Evo, STi, GT-R. That would probably be enough for a .1L decrease.
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Originally Posted by 4DRSpeed


It is smart for Nissan to drop the VQ in almost every car they make. It's not only smart engineering, it's cheaper!
i got owned by SR20DEN's sidekick
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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
in a dream maybe
it says VQ and manufactured october/1994



















btw its maxima
i win
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Originally Posted by Black VQ
Good theory. I could see Nismo having the resources for that...but not a tuner like Top Secret. I just don't think they have enough of a pull to get Nissan to make a block with a smaller bore just for them.

I think maybe the drop in displacement came from a lower compression ratio. I doubt Top Secret wanted to keep the stock ratio of 10.3:1. They probably went with a more turbo friendly number, like 8.X:1 a la the Evo, STi, GT-R. That would probably be enough for a .1L decrease.

What the hell does compression ratio have to do with metric engine displacement? You can have a 3.5L engine at 10.3:1 CR and the same 3.5L engine (with matching bore & stroke) at 8.5:1 CR...so tell me how the displacement makes a difference in this case.
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Originally Posted by MaximaZero
As long as we're all being **** retentive, that "02 Maxima engine that started as a 99.5 Pathfinder engine" is really from the 99.5 Terrano.
Don't forget to trace the true heritage of the VQ to the 1995 Maxima (I did once see a reference to a VQ25DE in a car from 1994, not sure about this though. It obviously wasn't sold on the American market. Who knows?)

Anyway, it's been one of Ward's Top Ten engines ever since its US debut in the 1995 model year, regardless of displacement (and other goodies they've added).

As it heads towards ten years running, it is still THE BEST V6 EVER BUILT.
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Originally Posted by infinitiblast
Interestingly enough...freshalloy.com doesnt the the v-6 fits the altima. Go to www.freshalloy.com and read their current review about the v-6 altima. Kinda interesting.
Interesting, but the '02, '03, and '04 Maximas all have gobs of torque steer nothing new. Only way to solve that problem is make it RWD. (damn Nissan). I would like to know though how many Maxima owners have the TCS option?? I don't think I've read anybody on here with TCS. IMO it's a pointless option (except for snowy places) and it kicks in on all the fun.

They should do a review on the Maxima he would say the samething. Avoid the Maxima because of "too much torque steer and if you have a lead foot like me you'll be going through tires every 10,000 miles"

But the article was interesting, because after I got done reading I have to admit I have only seen about 10 total of 3.5SE Altimas, the rest are 4 cylinders.
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What the hell does compression ratio have to do with metric engine displacement? You can have a 3.5L engine at 10.3:1 CR and the same 3.5L engine (with matching bore & stroke) at 8.5:1 CR...so tell me how the displacement makes a difference in this case.
Wouldn't the dish of the lower compression pistons decrease some of the area used by the piston and reduce displacement? A dished piston wouldn't displace as much air compared to flat or domed pistons, right? Sorry if I have things mixed up.
I've seen lots of turbo variants of cars that have slightly less displacement than their NA counterparts. Volvo is a good example. The NA S40 used a 1.9L I4. The turbo S40 T4 was 1.8L. The S60 uses a 2.9L I6, while the turbo S60 T6 uses a 2.8L I6. I highly doubt that Volvo went through the trouble of developing an entirely different crank or changing the bore on the engine blocks to acheive a .1L drop in displacement. A lower compression ratio is far more likely.

I still don't see how Top Secret could have reduced the bore of the motor. The stroke perhaps, but not the bore. Maybe piston sleeves with a smaller bore?
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http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/volv....num2.0.volvo*

http://www.edmunds.com/new/2004/volv....num3.0.volvo*

All S40 models use 1.9L now...and the 2.4L S60 model has the lower displacement engine on the N/A vehicle which has a HIGER compression ratio than the 2.5L turbo engine with a lower compression ratio...
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Sorry, I meant the S80, not S60. The S80 uses 2.9(NA) and 2.8(turbo) I6s.
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Sorry, I meant the S80, not S60. The S80 uses 2.9(NA) and 2.8(turbo) I6s.
Yeah, and it's the exact opposite for the S60. Who the hell knows ? I really don't think that it makes a difference in all honesty. I know you can change the volume of the combustion chamber to raise or lower CR, but that doesn't have an effect on the displacement since bore and stroke are not compromised. More volume = lower CR, less volume = higher CR...I think...
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Yeah, and it's the exact opposite for the S60. Who the hell knows ? I really don't think that it makes a difference in all honesty. I know you can change the volume of the combustion chamber to raise or lower CR, but that doesn't have an effect on the displacement since bore and stroke are not compromised. More volume = lower CR, less volume = higher CR...I think...
Yeah, I almost forgot another example: The Audi V6. It's an NA 2.8L in the A4 and A6, but there's a 2.7L biturbo version in the previous S4 and the A6 2.7T. That just got me thinking that maybe they lowered the compression ratio, which lowered the displacement. Guess I was wrong...maybe.

Where's SteVTEC? He'll probably prove us both wrong.
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Originally Posted by Black VQ
Yeah, I almost forgot another example: The Audi V6. It's an NA 2.8L in the A4 and A6, but there's a 2.7L biturbo version in the previous S4 and the A6 2.7T. That just got me thinking that maybe they lowered the compression ratio, which lowered the displacement. Guess I was wrong...maybe.

Where's SteVTEC? He'll probably prove us both wrong.

Audi got rid of the 2.8L and now use the 3.0L for the A6 and A4...
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Good theory. I could see Nismo having the resources for that...but not a tuner like Top Secret. I just don't think they have enough of a pull to get Nissan to make a block with a smaller bore just for them.

I think maybe the drop in displacement came from a lower compression ratio. I doubt Top Secret wanted to keep the stock ratio of 10.3:1. They probably went with a more turbo friendly number, like 8.X:1 a la the Evo, STi, GT-R. That would probably be enough for a .1L decrease.

yaaay!! or maybe they just bored a vq30de to 3.4 and mated it to the 3.5 heads? make any sense? sure it does...
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