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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 07:05 AM
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Who all is running copper NGK's for NA use?

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I'm thinking about going copper my next go round. Which part number are you using?
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 07:24 AM
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I'm using the regular NGKs that are meant for the VG. change 'em about once a year and they're great. screw that $9 per plug, I'm going $9 per set!

Dunno if they'll work on the VQ, but I'm happy with them in my VE.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 07:31 AM
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same as matt here....
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Maximajism94se
same as matt here....
If I was NA I would. (I'm boosted and I do.) It's so easy to change the plugs on a Maxima, I don't know why any self respecting car guy would pay for the plats just so he didn't have to change the plugs as often.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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I did when I was NA. BKR5E IIRC.
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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Why pay 6x as much for something when you're going to change them every year anyway?
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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:41 AM
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If I was NA I would. (I'm boosted and I do.) It's so easy to change the plugs on a Maxima, I don't know why any self respecting car guy would pay for the plats just so he didn't have to change the plugs as often.
not on the 3.5s... it's a real pain to change them out....
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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I'm running the NGK coppers and I've run my PB with them. I forget the part number, but just tell the guy you want 6 NGK coppers for your 95 Nissan Altima because the coppers won't be listed for the 95+ Maxima.


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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:46 AM
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I am. BKR5E-11

No discernable performance difference over the plats. Got em for less than $2 each from Advance Auto Parts.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave B
I'm running the NGK coppers and I've run my PB with them. I forget the part number, but just tell the guy you want 6 NGK coppers for your 95 Nissan Altima because the coppers won't be listed for the 95+ Maxima.


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Before I could remember that part number, that's what I did.

FYI you don't need the "-11" part of the part number. That just means they're pre-gapped. If you just get BRK5E's you can gap them yourself. I always re-check and/or re-gap all my plugs anyways.

I change my coppers now about every 10k, or whenever they're out (for compression test, etc). Its just to cheap to pass up.
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I was running plats, then i had to switch since i started spraying. Now im running 1-step colder plugs which slightly hinders N/A performance...



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Old Nov 25, 2003 | 10:14 AM
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I run copper NGKs in mine too. they're great. forgot the part number though.
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Platinum plugs are a waste. 60k miles for $8 or 30k miles for $2. Copper is a superior conductor to platinum anyhow though you won't see any performance difference.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:17 PM
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I thought the point of fewer plug changes was because the aluminum of the VQ block was more prone to damage from constant threading. I read that somewhere.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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I thought the point of fewer plug changes was because the aluminum of the VQ block was more prone to damage from constant threading. I read that somewhere.
Just don't overtighten. All it takes is about 2/3 to 3/4 of a turn past finger tight to crush the washer.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
im running 1-step colder plugs which slightly hinders N/A performance...



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yea i was planning to spray, but not anymore so i'm goin back to platinum tip pretty soon...
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Just don't overtighten. All it takes is about 2/3 to 3/4 of a turn past finger tight to crush the washer.
Is this with or without anti-seize?
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96
Is this with or without anti-seize?
The anti-sieze won't change how much of a turn it takes to crush the washer - that is determined by the thread pitch. It's a good idea to always use anti-sieze, though, since it prevents galvanic corrosion between the aluminum head and the steel spark plug. Then again, if you use coppers you're not going to give galvanic corrosion long enough time to build up to any significant level. I'd still use it, though.
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http://www.vqpower.com/v2/modules.ph...howpage&pid=33

Nissan Part # for these plugs are 22401 - 50Y05
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by voltman
I thought the point of fewer plug changes was because the aluminum of the VQ block was more prone to damage from constant threading. I read that somewhere.
To do the job right, get a torque wrench. You won't go wrong and won't have to worry about overtightening.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:51 PM
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And use some anti-seize on the plug threads.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 01:57 PM
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I am running copper NGKs.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 02:26 PM
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To do the job right, get a torque wrench. You won't go wrong and won't have to worry about overtightening.

I'm not personally worried about it. It's just something I've read.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 03:48 PM
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I've run nothing but copper plugs in my maximas..
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Platinum plugs are a waste. 60k miles for $8 or 30k miles for $2. Copper is a superior conductor to platinum anyhow though you won't see any performance difference.
I paid a lot for my NGK plat's and when I was working on my car with Turbo95Max he mentioned that copper gives a better spark and it's not hard to change em on the VQ30. The only difference is price and the fact that you dont have to gap the plats.

Next time around I will be going NGK copper.
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Why pay 6x as much for something when you're going to change them every year anyway?
Y would you change them every year?
I pull em, check em, Make sure they're all good and the car is running right and slap em back in.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:30 PM
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i will go copper next go around but i'm worried about gapping. How hard is it to gap?
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Haven't sprayed in some time now, however I still run the NGK coppers.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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If the NGK V-Power copper core plugs for the Maxima are similar to the ones I used in my old Mazda, you won't need to gap the plugs at all. Gapping is easy as hell though; buy a wire plug gap gauge (for cheap at Advance Auto or Autozone, they may even have them up at the cashier counter in a stack) and try to stick the proper size wire loop (.044") through the plug gap... if it's too tight, open it up, if it's too loose, close it down a little... they have a little notched tool on the gauge for bending the ground electrode (setting the gap involves merely bending the ground electrode to widen/shorten the gap).
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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I got about 45,000 miles on my ride and am going to change my spark plugs soon is there a write-up on how to change these I haven't had to change them yet and the rears look like a PITA. Would you reccommend the copper plugs for NA use. or what would the best ones be for my car with my mods.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 11:45 PM
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NGK coppers for me.
Old Nov 25, 2003 | 11:46 PM
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BKR5E-11's on my VE with 166k.

Runs great.
Old Nov 26, 2003 | 12:06 AM
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I am as well. Probably time to change them. Although, I have no clue how to
Old Nov 26, 2003 | 02:49 PM
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yea i was planning to spray, but not anymore so i'm goin back to platinum tip pretty soon...


I still wouldnt go back to plats simply because their so damn expensive. Also, coppers a better conducter as previously stated.

And slightly OT, but why arent you gonna spray anymore?





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Old Nov 26, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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I think I'm going to put coppers in my Dads 2000SE today. Has NGK plat's in there now.
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