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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 07:28 PM
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Planning to do a 5 speed swap in your future? take this advice from me and others

As some of you guys know, I have a 2nd max. Yes its a auto , I can just press on the pedal and drive. I only owned the car for like 4 months and the auto tranny croaked. Moral of the story a 5 speed swap can be done in 1 day to 2 days if you have all the parts. Order your parts like all the hydraulic lines in advance so you can get on w/your project. I just ordered my parts and they dont have any in stock. I cant tear my **** apart until I get half of those parts in. I can install the tranny, clutch flywheel but its a pain getting to those lines from the outside in. Much easier from the inside of the engine bay.
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 08:28 PM
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those lines are a bish
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 09:02 PM
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Lines are not a bish when you use a stainless steel braided line from the master cylinder to slave straight like i did.

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BigDogJonx
Lines are not a bish when you use a stainless steel braided line from the master cylinder to slave straight like i did.

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do you have a picture of that id like to maybe do this to eliminate the wierd coil hard line above the tranny
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 09:10 PM
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to all you people who have done the swap, i bow down. hopefully one day i can either get a 5spd max or afford to swap mine. i'm happy with mine in the meantime though. you're all true enthusiast who do that on your own!
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 09:14 PM
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Whats the real reason for the stock hydraulic lines being super long snd spiral? only things I can think of is that the super long line either act as a fluid resovior to store more fluid or that the large ammount of fluid acts as a damper to dampen vibration so you wont feel it vibrate at the clutch pedal
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Make sure the tranny you get is in perfect working condition.
Another thing is to buy as many new parts from Nissan as you can afford. Having new parts is better for obvious reasons, but also for piece of mind. If nothing else, be sure to get a new master cylinder.


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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 09:40 PM
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who should I get to do my swap when the time comes

I've got a '96 auto and I'm gonna do a swap as soon as I save up the cash. I dont have the know how to do it myself (though I wish I did). will any general mechanic do a good job or should I get a tranny place to do it or what???? And how much should I expect to pay in labor charges???



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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:00 PM
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a guess on labor would be 600 to 1000$ and go to a couple of different shopped and talk to them about it make sure they have an idea of whats involved
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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the guy that did mine took 6 hours. talk about fast...
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:12 PM
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6 hours?? How about 16 days? LMAO


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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by araffio
6 hours?? How about 16 days? LMAO


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Thats a long time. It took him 6-8 hours seriously, but he took a break to eat. Not bad though.
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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That's what having all the right parts and a good tranny from the start will get ya. All I can say is I am glad the converison is over and done with

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Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by araffio
That's what having all the right parts and a good tranny from the start will get ya. All I can say is I am glad the converison is over and done with

-Tony

There was one thing that we thought was gonna hold us up. That banjo bolt with the hole through it. I didnt have it. Totally forgot about it. I wasnt gonna be able to get one for about 4-5 days but for some odd reason "LUCKY FOR ONCE" he found one after looking through alot of crap for about 25 minutes. Wasnt for my car but it worked. No problems as of today. "knock on wood"
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 10:31 PM
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I've been thinking about the possiblilty of doing the conversion as well. I wouldn't want to get into it until this coming summer. That gives me a good 6-7 months to learn about it, and look for parts. One thing I was thinking about is a Nissan OEM 5spd LSD tranny, like out of an I30 5spd. I know they are rare, but since I've got some time, why not try? I've heard that they might not be as "strong" (if you can call a nissan tranny strong, heh) as the non LSD version. Is there any truth to that? And aside from the tranny itself, and the different axles it uses, are there any increased costs associated with that? Any other reasons not to bother with the LSD tranny? I just can't justify spending $1k for a Quaife or Shadow's LSD on top of the cost of the conversion all in one blow. Would having the OEM LSD prevent me from going to a Quaife, etc later on?
Old Dec 15, 2003 | 11:26 PM
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bushings

Which bushings are you talking about? on the energy suspension.com site I see atleast two kinds, control arm bushings, ANTI-SWAY BAR (Stabilizer Bar) END LINKS & BUSHINGS, STRUT ROD BUSHINGS. please give me more info so I can fix this problem. Thank you everyone



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Old Dec 16, 2003 | 12:02 AM
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I've heard that they might not be as "strong" (if you can call a nissan tranny strong, heh) as the non LSD version. Is there any truth to that?
What I been told is that the OEM LSD isnt as strong as an aftermarket LSD like Quaife, not shure about OEM LSD vs. OEM non-LSD though.
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get a complete donor car for parts, it helps big time
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hakk97se
I've been thinking about the possiblilty of doing the conversion as well. I wouldn't want to get into it until this coming summer. That gives me a good 6-7 months to learn about it, and look for parts. One thing I was thinking about is a Nissan OEM 5spd LSD tranny, like out of an I30 5spd. I know they are rare, but since I've got some time, why not try? I've heard that they might not be as "strong" (if you can call a nissan tranny strong, heh) as the non LSD version. Is there any truth to that? And aside from the tranny itself, and the different axles it uses, are there any increased costs associated with that? Any other reasons not to bother with the LSD tranny? I just can't justify spending $1k for a Quaife or Shadow's LSD on top of the cost of the conversion all in one blow. Would having the OEM LSD prevent me from going to a Quaife, etc later on?


The quaife is the best LSD out there. Lifetime warranty and is all gear driven. The downfall. That fcker is heavy. At least 3 lbs heavier then shadows LSD. I have installed three so far. Theres nothing wrong with his LSDS. He cryotreats the complete thing after installing that sandwich adapter.


For those who are totally clueless about what parts are needed Ill take some pics and name of the parts needed. I will also post the part numbers to the hydraulic hoses.
Old Dec 16, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Lines are not a bish when you use a stainless steel braided line from the master cylinder to slave straight like i did.

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