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Old 01-07-2004 | 11:51 PM
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I think the question should read "should Nissan build a RWD car in Mississippi by 2k8?"

imho the Maxima should be phased out because it is only a name--and that name will hurt any new product they come out with. Look at the 6th gen, it's dead in the water and it hasn't been out long. Any RWD offering should have a new name and be built in Japan.

Haha, so true...who's Idea was it to make the Max in the states...they should get fired...it will start to have problems like chevy, ford, dodge...etc. What is up with the look of the 6th gen anyway? Looks like someone was drunk when they designed it....but to not get too far off topic..the new gen should be AWD single turbo...maybe 300-400 hp.
Old 01-08-2004 | 03:41 AM
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In regards to here in New Zealand (and Australia to some extent) making the Maxima RWD would give the Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore some serious competition in the RWD market. Could be a good thing, but I'm not really fussed, I don't have any complaints with my FWD AWD may become a reality for the NZ Maxima in the 2004-2008 range, from what I read in a review.

As for the Skyline, it comes in RWD and AWD
Old 01-08-2004 | 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Phatmax98
..the new gen should be AWD single turbo...maybe 300-400 hp.
I think Nissan has no intention of going turbo on any mass production scale. However, I can picture limited production Z and G35 coupes having turbos but, Maximas are doubtful (unless demand swings in favor of turbos). If anything, I can picture Nissan using some version of the VK45DE (which already has 340hp) to go along with any AWD setup. Just my $.02.
Old 01-08-2004 | 03:49 PM
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7th gen Maxima should be based on the M45 platform but not be so damn ugly, and have both a v6 and v8 option with RWD...
the skyline is coming to the US???
The new M45 concept looks really nce, more closely to the G35 and Q45 styling. So the next 7th gen max wouldn't look remotely close to the current M45 if Nissan decides to base it on the M45 platform.

Its funny how we are already talking about the 7th gen anyways.
I wonder what the 25th AE edition maxima would look like?
Old 01-08-2004 | 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Phatmax98
the new gen should be AWD single turbo...maybe 300-400 hp.
oh yea... sounds...plausible
Old 01-08-2004 | 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SXN
as my mom said when buying a new car "i want a japanese car that was built in japan, not in ohio"
Negative comments about the Max being built in the US make zero sense to me. The reason American cars are arguably considered less reliable than Japanese vehicles has much more to do with engineering than the people who are building it. Why are Japenese cars better? In Japan, the best engineers work in the auto industry. In America, defense is the pinnacle of engineering. I think we're putting our best eggs in the right basket.
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my mom was buying a camry, not a maxima.
Old 01-08-2004 | 05:10 PM
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my mom was buying a camry, not a maxima.
The Camry has been built in Kentucky for about the last 3 generations (at least).
Old 01-08-2004 | 05:13 PM
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did i say she got what she wanted?
Old 01-08-2004 | 05:30 PM
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Most of you guys are wrong, Instead of RWD, it should be a AWD, instead of a v8 it should be a futuristic vq turbo. Ok my point is made thank you so much. O and the new MAXIMA has to be under 3200 pounds, Just like the 4thGen

Base Model
- GE - Basic v6 VQ38DE, options of rims and some interior mods, Also has to be FWD

Sports Model
- SE - v6 VQ38DET, Options of 18" Light Alloy BBS Rims, Stock Skirt and nice Snug Spoiler, Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up

Sports Luxury Model
- SLE - Same with SE but you get leather and dope rims that are classy, Optional Suspension upgrades

Luxury Model
- LE - Has to have Leather, and comes with nice suspension set up better then BMW's or Mercedes luxury set up suspension

O and the New Maxima has to have a Full line of expensive NISMO products.
Old 01-08-2004 | 05:53 PM
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Old 01-08-2004 | 07:28 PM
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Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up
Wow. Yeah, that's definately something the public consistently demands of their sports sedan. I can just picture it, "Well honey, I really like that new Maxima...but I think we'll have to pass if we can't get it with a big @ss ricey looking hoodscoop..." Does Nissan really want to compete with Pontiac in this highly incompetitive market?
Old 01-09-2004 | 07:20 AM
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I can just picture it, "Well honey, I really like that new Maxima...but I think we'll have to pass if we can't get it with a big @ss ricey looking hoodscoop..."
x 1,000,000
Old 01-09-2004 | 10:03 AM
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Your theory makes no sense. If they made the max awd and turbo, it would have to be priced at about $40k. Why? Because if not, it will kill G35 rwd/awd sales. Even then, a maxima like this would kill the M45 sales and maybe the FX series sales. All car makers have some sort of hp/cost scale.

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Most of you guys are wrong, Instead of RWD, it should be a AWD, instead of a v8 it should be a futuristic vq turbo. Ok my point is made thank you so much. O and the new MAXIMA has to be under 3200 pounds, Just like the 4thGen

Base Model
- GE - Basic v6 VQ38DE, options of rims and some interior mods, Also has to be FWD

Sports Model
- SE - v6 VQ38DET, Options of 18" Light Alloy BBS Rims, Stock Skirt and nice Snug Spoiler, Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up

Sports Luxury Model
- SLE - Same with SE but you get leather and dope rims that are classy, Optional Suspension upgrades

Luxury Model
- LE - Has to have Leather, and comes with nice suspension set up better then BMW's or Mercedes luxury set up suspension

O and the New Maxima has to have a Full line of expensive NISMO products.
Old 01-09-2004 | 10:39 AM
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This is really speculating who knows if hteir will be a Max then, with the 05 Altima Nissan is upgrading the interior and offering Nav on it. So with that we will see were the Max ends up.
Old 01-09-2004 | 04:32 PM
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Hey Nissan needs a GODlike CAR like the Subuaru's STi, and Mitsubishi's EVolution, and the Chevy's Corvette, and the Fords Cobra. I think the 350z doesnt cut it. So what if theres a Super Maxima Jeff
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
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If Nissan wanted to battle the STIs and Evos, they would bring over their Sunny GTi. AWD turbo econo car. If Nissan wants to do battle with the Vette, they would probably use M45 chassis or the Z chassis and put a modified version of the VK series in it. Or introduce the Skyline AWD turbo here in the USA

Just think. If Nissan built a AWD turbo Maxima, that would be great right? But who would buy the G35 rwd/awd versions? I don't think Nissan will cannibalize sales of their Infiniti division. Expecially right after spending a buttload f $ developing their brand new chassis for 2002'

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Hey Nissan needs a GODlike CAR like the Subuaru's STi, and Mitsubishi's EVolution, and the Chevy's Corvette, and the Fords Cobra. I think the 350z doesnt cut it. So what if theres a Super Maxima Jeff
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
Hey Nissan needs a GODlike CAR like the Subuaru's STi, and Mitsubishi's EVolution, and the Chevy's Corvette, and the Fords Cobra. I think the 350z doesnt cut it. So what if theres a Super Maxima Jeff
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like

good idea...nissan needs to get rid of that ugly 6th gen body though...why they only made the 5th gen for 3 years is beyond me...6th gen =
Old 01-09-2004 | 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
If Nissan wanted to battle the STIs and Evos, they would bring over their Sunny GTi. AWD turbo econo car. If Nissan wants to do battle with the Vette, they would probably use M45 chassis or the Z chassis and put a modified version of the VK series in it. Or introduce the Skyline AWD turbo here in the USA

Just think. If Nissan built a AWD turbo Maxima, that would be great right? But who would buy the G35 rwd/awd versions? I don't think Nissan will cannibalize sales of their Infiniti division. Expecially right after spending a buttload f $ developing their brand new chassis for 2002'

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Originally Posted by Phatmax98
good idea...nissan needs to get rid of that ugly 6th gen body though...why they only made the 5th gen for 3 years is beyond me...6th gen =

2000=1
2001=2
2002=3
2003=4

second time I've had to do that today.
Old 01-09-2004 | 04:58 PM
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oh yeah, and why would it be 2008?


I would think it would be 2004-2007 then 2008-2009 or something, or 2004-2009 (not likely since they have been shortening the model life) then release a new model in 2010.

I think it would be awesome if the 7th gen looked like a 3rd gen, I think it would generate big sales because it would look soo much different compared to the rest of the market.
Old 01-09-2004 | 05:05 PM
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Ok jeff they should Beef up the G35 then also, Look at there sales, they completley sucked, and with all those options, who wouldnt pay 40k for that car. Youd be getting an awesome deal if you ask me. You need to give people a better reason why not to by a Camry or an Accord, or an A4, or a 3 Series.
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G series sales are bad? I see G35s all over the place here.

AWD Maxima turbo would be great for $40k-ish. TOO great of a deal. That's the point.

Nissan already gives 260 reasons not to buy a Camry/Accord. 3-series are already way into the mid-upper $30k range. Base 3-series are in the $30k range but in order to have ANY options, you have to tack on at least $5-$7 worth of stuff.

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Ok jeff they should Beef up the G35 then also, Look at there sales, they completley sucked, and with all those options, who wouldnt pay 40k for that car. Youd be getting an awesome deal if you ask me. You need to give people a better reason why not to by a Camry or an Accord, or an A4, or a 3 Series.
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ok, but still, you have to admit I bring up a good point about the whole amping up thing
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Originally Posted by MrGone
2000=1
2001=2
2002=3
2003=4

second time I've had to do that today.

yeah...thanks for helping with my math...lol
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FWD or RWD would be fine...either way it would be sweet.
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I think if Nissan wants to up the power of the Maxima, they will have to go AWD. That's the most logical option to me. Because the mechanicals aready exist. No turbo will be offered though. Too expensive.

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ok, but still, you have to admit I bring up a good point about the whole amping up thing
Old 01-09-2004 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I think if Nissan wants to up the power of the Maxima, they will have to go AWD. That's the most logical option to me. Because the mechanicals aready exist. No turbo will be offered though. Too expensive.

True, but not a bad idea, AWD sounds like the most plausible answer to Nissans bad Maxima sales, I say they dump the 6th Gen look completley, it looks like a full size old people sedan. Thats what Cadillac did, and look at there sales, o and there winning awards up.
Old 01-10-2004 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
True, but not a bad idea, AWD sounds like the most plausible answer to Nissans bad Maxima sales, I say they dump the 6th Gen look completley, it looks like a full size old people sedan. Thats what Cadillac did, and look at there sales, o and there winning awards up.
Yeah, but who is the intended audience? The 18-25 year olds on this forum? Or the 50+ year-olds who buy the car now? And would these vehicles be built in Mississippi with the same soft steering, clutch, and suspension? imho Nissan has no incentive to change their ways at all. And what would be the sense? The target audience I think plays a big part in the resale value. You want to see ridiculous depreciation? Look up the Chevy Cavalier. You want to see a sleeper? Check out the Ford F150--resale equal to the Honda Accord.
Old 01-10-2004 | 09:30 PM
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Did you not get what I ment with the Cadillac thing, What the resale value on one of those new XLR's. Or even Better, I know the resale value on a STi is gonna be crasy high. Why would you aim your sales on a Crowd of people thats dyeing, Cadillac literally said the same thing at there auto show last year, thast why theyve change so much, cause literally the market buyers where dying out. Nissan should aim there marketing on 28-45 year old age group. Basically it should stop making there Flagship Sedan into a Old people car with little oomph
Old 01-10-2004 | 10:09 PM
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No, I'd rather awd.
Old 01-10-2004 | 11:51 PM
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The next Max should not be RWD. The maxima isnt a sports car, and IMO, wont ever be. The maxima is their flagship car at Nissan. If they put the AWD, they are gonna have to go with a whole new platform. Also, with the weight, most likely, they are going to have to put a beefier engine in there. What's the point? They've got a great 3.5 liter engine in the car right now, it works great, and is still rather fuel efficient. Putting a v8 in the car would decrease mileage, throw out the 3.5, and possibly cause problems later on. That engine hasnt been out for long, and nobody really knows yet what kind of problems it will have in the long run. The cost of the maxima to the consumer would go sky high, and all in all, it would be just as good, if not better, to buy an Infinity. I think the maxima is going to stay FWD, with the 3.5 liter in it, for a long time. If they made the kind of changes everyone here is wanting, then it wouldnt appeal to the average person as much, and it would also mean basically redesigning the car from the ground up, which is not going to happen.
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My guess, the "7th gen Max" will be a top trim Altima.
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My guess, the "7th gen Max" will be a top trim Altima.

Agreed. If you think about it, the 3.5 altima is actually a better deal. They look nearly the same, perform nearly the same, and the altima is cheaper.
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And FYI, the First Gen Maximas were RWD.....
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The next Max should not be RWD. The maxima isnt a sports car, and IMO, wont ever be. The maxima is their flagship car at Nissan. If they put the AWD, they are gonna have to go with a whole new platform. Also, with the weight, most likely, they are going to have to put a beefier engine in there. What's the point? They've got a great 3.5 liter engine in the car right now, it works great, and is still rather fuel efficient. Putting a v8 in the car would decrease mileage, throw out the 3.5, and possibly cause problems later on. That engine hasnt been out for long, and nobody really knows yet what kind of problems it will have in the long run. The cost of the maxima to the consumer would go sky high, and all in all, it would be just as good, if not better, to buy an Infinity. I think the maxima is going to stay FWD, with the 3.5 liter in it, for a long time. If they made the kind of changes everyone here is wanting, then it wouldnt appeal to the average person as much, and it would also mean basically redesigning the car from the ground up, which is not going to happen.
What engine are you talking about when you are saying "Putting a v8 in the car would decrease mileage, throw out the 3.5, and possibly cause problems later on. That engine hasnt been out for long, and nobody really knows yet what kind of problems it will have in the long run."

If you are referring to the V8, Infiniti has been using V8s in their Q45 for COUNTLESS years, and it has won many awards. That is the engine platform that Nissan would consider "basing" the Maxima on, granted they choose to do RWD.

If you are referring to the 3.5 VQ, the problems are all adaptable to the 3.0, with a little less/more depending on what angle you are looking at it from. The VQ is proven, with by bar many less problems than that of the same class competitors.
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I was talking about the v8. Didnt they put a new v8 in their new cars? If not, I stand corrected.
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A maxima is FWD....always has been.....if you change the entire drivetrain layout, you no longer have a maxima, you have something else.

RWD would completely change the maxima's performance and handling in most respects (weight distro, etc...)

If you want RWD so much, just go buy a RWD car....that's a pretty simple solution....
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Originally Posted by irish44j
A maxima is FWD....always has been.....if you change the entire drivetrain layout, you no longer have a maxima, you have something else.

RWD would completely change the maxima's performance and handling in most respects (weight distro, etc...)

If you want RWD so much, just go buy a RWD car....that's a pretty simple solution....

It always has been FWD??? Ummm the 1st gen was RWD...then 2nd-6th are FWD. Please tell me what the 2nd-6th gens are since the layout was changed from the 1st gen.
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Indeed, I stand corrected.....I was 7 years old last time there was a RWD max.....that said, wonder why they changed to FWD....hmmmm?

Well, there were also 1st-gen diesel maxes....do we really want a 7th gen, RWD, DIESEL maxima?

Fact is, for most of us, the maxima is our daily driver, so it has to be good in all weather...reason #1 why it's good to have FWD....if I had a dollar for how many times I give my buddy a ride to work on snowy days because his M3 can't go anywhere...I'd be rich.

I mean, why all these complaints about FWD vs. RWD....there are a ton of RWD cars out there that you can get that are just as powerful and classy as a maxima, so why not just get one of those?'

The maxima has been FWD for what, 20 years now? And it's doing ok, judging by how much most on this .org love their cars.

Just saw a mercedes commercial for a new AWD sedan, and it struck me: There are ALOT of previously RWD-only high-class sedans (BMW, Mercedes, Infiniti, etc...) that are now offered with AWD.....I think BMW offers ALL their cars with it now (though I may be wrong).

Now there is a commercial for Lexus is330 on tv....and strangely enough, it touts "front wheel drive" as the top feature. Imagine that.

The reason for that? People realize that having only a RWD car is not always practical, especially if you happen to live someplace where it snows alot....

Just my 2 cents...sorry about the inaccurate comment re: 1st gen....can't say I know much about them..

Ok sorry to ramble on, just ****es me off to hear everyone ***** about maxima being FWD...if you wanted RWD so much, why did you buy a FWD SEDAN??????


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