View Poll Results: Should the next Max (2K8?) be RWD?
Yes. No more torque steer!
40
34.48%
Yes. I wanna be able to tail the rear end out!
57
49.14%
Yes. Other reason - Specify below.
12
10.34%
No. Not as versatile in bad weather.
17
14.66%
No. Acura has masked the effects of torque steer a little in the new TL. Nissan can too.
8
6.90%
No. The Maxima has always been FWD - and should stay that way.
18
15.52%
No. I think torque steer makes driving hard more exciting!
10
8.62%
No. Other reason - Specify below.
14
12.07%
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Should the next Max (2K8) be RWD?
#41
Originally Posted by Frank Fontaine
I think the question should read "should Nissan build a RWD car in Mississippi by 2k8?"
imho the Maxima should be phased out because it is only a name--and that name will hurt any new product they come out with. Look at the 6th gen, it's dead in the water and it hasn't been out long. Any RWD offering should have a new name and be built in Japan.
imho the Maxima should be phased out because it is only a name--and that name will hurt any new product they come out with. Look at the 6th gen, it's dead in the water and it hasn't been out long. Any RWD offering should have a new name and be built in Japan.
Haha, so true...who's Idea was it to make the Max in the states...they should get fired...it will start to have problems like chevy, ford, dodge...etc. What is up with the look of the 6th gen anyway? Looks like someone was drunk when they designed it....but to not get too far off topic..the new gen should be AWD single turbo...maybe 300-400 hp.
#42
In regards to here in New Zealand (and Australia to some extent) making the Maxima RWD would give the Ford Falcon and Holden Commodore some serious competition in the RWD market. Could be a good thing, but I'm not really fussed, I don't have any complaints with my FWD AWD may become a reality for the NZ Maxima in the 2004-2008 range, from what I read in a review.
As for the Skyline, it comes in RWD and AWD
As for the Skyline, it comes in RWD and AWD
#43
Originally Posted by Phatmax98
..the new gen should be AWD single turbo...maybe 300-400 hp.
#44
Originally Posted by 007max
7th gen Maxima should be based on the M45 platform but not be so damn ugly, and have both a v6 and v8 option with RWD...
the skyline is coming to the US???
the skyline is coming to the US???
Its funny how we are already talking about the 7th gen anyways.
I wonder what the 25th AE edition maxima would look like?
#46
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Originally Posted by SXN
as my mom said when buying a new car "i want a japanese car that was built in japan, not in ohio"
#50
Most of you guys are wrong, Instead of RWD, it should be a AWD, instead of a v8 it should be a futuristic vq turbo. Ok my point is made thank you so much. O and the new MAXIMA has to be under 3200 pounds, Just like the 4thGen
Base Model
- GE - Basic v6 VQ38DE, options of rims and some interior mods, Also has to be FWD
Sports Model
- SE - v6 VQ38DET, Options of 18" Light Alloy BBS Rims, Stock Skirt and nice Snug Spoiler, Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up
Sports Luxury Model
- SLE - Same with SE but you get leather and dope rims that are classy, Optional Suspension upgrades
Luxury Model
- LE - Has to have Leather, and comes with nice suspension set up better then BMW's or Mercedes luxury set up suspension
O and the New Maxima has to have a Full line of expensive NISMO products.
Base Model
- GE - Basic v6 VQ38DE, options of rims and some interior mods, Also has to be FWD
Sports Model
- SE - v6 VQ38DET, Options of 18" Light Alloy BBS Rims, Stock Skirt and nice Snug Spoiler, Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up
Sports Luxury Model
- SLE - Same with SE but you get leather and dope rims that are classy, Optional Suspension upgrades
Luxury Model
- LE - Has to have Leather, and comes with nice suspension set up better then BMW's or Mercedes luxury set up suspension
O and the New Maxima has to have a Full line of expensive NISMO products.
#52
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Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up
#54
Your theory makes no sense. If they made the max awd and turbo, it would have to be priced at about $40k. Why? Because if not, it will kill G35 rwd/awd sales. Even then, a maxima like this would kill the M45 sales and maybe the FX series sales. All car makers have some sort of hp/cost scale.
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
Most of you guys are wrong, Instead of RWD, it should be a AWD, instead of a v8 it should be a futuristic vq turbo. Ok my point is made thank you so much. O and the new MAXIMA has to be under 3200 pounds, Just like the 4thGen
Base Model
- GE - Basic v6 VQ38DE, options of rims and some interior mods, Also has to be FWD
Sports Model
- SE - v6 VQ38DET, Options of 18" Light Alloy BBS Rims, Stock Skirt and nice Snug Spoiler, Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up
Sports Luxury Model
- SLE - Same with SE but you get leather and dope rims that are classy, Optional Suspension upgrades
Luxury Model
- LE - Has to have Leather, and comes with nice suspension set up better then BMW's or Mercedes luxury set up suspension
O and the New Maxima has to have a Full line of expensive NISMO products.
Base Model
- GE - Basic v6 VQ38DE, options of rims and some interior mods, Also has to be FWD
Sports Model
- SE - v6 VQ38DET, Options of 18" Light Alloy BBS Rims, Stock Skirt and nice Snug Spoiler, Big @ss Hood Scoop has to be included and not an option, Same with BOSE. Comes With Newest KYB Fully Adjustable Shocks, and with full GTR Suspension set up
Sports Luxury Model
- SLE - Same with SE but you get leather and dope rims that are classy, Optional Suspension upgrades
Luxury Model
- LE - Has to have Leather, and comes with nice suspension set up better then BMW's or Mercedes luxury set up suspension
O and the New Maxima has to have a Full line of expensive NISMO products.
#55
This is really speculating who knows if hteir will be a Max then, with the 05 Altima Nissan is upgrading the interior and offering Nav on it. So with that we will see were the Max ends up.
#56
Hey Nissan needs a GODlike CAR like the Subuaru's STi, and Mitsubishi's EVolution, and the Chevy's Corvette, and the Fords Cobra. I think the 350z doesnt cut it. So what if theres a Super Maxima Jeff
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
#57
If Nissan wanted to battle the STIs and Evos, they would bring over their Sunny GTi. AWD turbo econo car. If Nissan wants to do battle with the Vette, they would probably use M45 chassis or the Z chassis and put a modified version of the VK series in it. Or introduce the Skyline AWD turbo here in the USA
Just think. If Nissan built a AWD turbo Maxima, that would be great right? But who would buy the G35 rwd/awd versions? I don't think Nissan will cannibalize sales of their Infiniti division. Expecially right after spending a buttload f $ developing their brand new chassis for 2002'
Just think. If Nissan built a AWD turbo Maxima, that would be great right? But who would buy the G35 rwd/awd versions? I don't think Nissan will cannibalize sales of their Infiniti division. Expecially right after spending a buttload f $ developing their brand new chassis for 2002'
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
Hey Nissan needs a GODlike CAR like the Subuaru's STi, and Mitsubishi's EVolution, and the Chevy's Corvette, and the Fords Cobra. I think the 350z doesnt cut it. So what if theres a Super Maxima Jeff
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
#58
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
Hey Nissan needs a GODlike CAR like the Subuaru's STi, and Mitsubishi's EVolution, and the Chevy's Corvette, and the Fords Cobra. I think the 350z doesnt cut it. So what if theres a Super Maxima Jeff
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
and the hood scoop thing was to imitate a STi, why doesnt someone make a Photoshop of what they think the SE would look like
good idea...nissan needs to get rid of that ugly 6th gen body though...why they only made the 5th gen for 3 years is beyond me...6th gen =
#59
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
If Nissan wanted to battle the STIs and Evos, they would bring over their Sunny GTi. AWD turbo econo car. If Nissan wants to do battle with the Vette, they would probably use M45 chassis or the Z chassis and put a modified version of the VK series in it. Or introduce the Skyline AWD turbo here in the USA
Just think. If Nissan built a AWD turbo Maxima, that would be great right? But who would buy the G35 rwd/awd versions? I don't think Nissan will cannibalize sales of their Infiniti division. Expecially right after spending a buttload f $ developing their brand new chassis for 2002'
Just think. If Nissan built a AWD turbo Maxima, that would be great right? But who would buy the G35 rwd/awd versions? I don't think Nissan will cannibalize sales of their Infiniti division. Expecially right after spending a buttload f $ developing their brand new chassis for 2002'
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#60
Originally Posted by Phatmax98
good idea...nissan needs to get rid of that ugly 6th gen body though...why they only made the 5th gen for 3 years is beyond me...6th gen =
2000=1
2001=2
2002=3
2003=4
second time I've had to do that today.
#61
oh yeah, and why would it be 2008?
I would think it would be 2004-2007 then 2008-2009 or something, or 2004-2009 (not likely since they have been shortening the model life) then release a new model in 2010.
I think it would be awesome if the 7th gen looked like a 3rd gen, I think it would generate big sales because it would look soo much different compared to the rest of the market.
I would think it would be 2004-2007 then 2008-2009 or something, or 2004-2009 (not likely since they have been shortening the model life) then release a new model in 2010.
I think it would be awesome if the 7th gen looked like a 3rd gen, I think it would generate big sales because it would look soo much different compared to the rest of the market.
#62
Ok jeff they should Beef up the G35 then also, Look at there sales, they completley sucked, and with all those options, who wouldnt pay 40k for that car. Youd be getting an awesome deal if you ask me. You need to give people a better reason why not to by a Camry or an Accord, or an A4, or a 3 Series.
#63
G series sales are bad? I see G35s all over the place here.
AWD Maxima turbo would be great for $40k-ish. TOO great of a deal. That's the point.
Nissan already gives 260 reasons not to buy a Camry/Accord. 3-series are already way into the mid-upper $30k range. Base 3-series are in the $30k range but in order to have ANY options, you have to tack on at least $5-$7 worth of stuff.
AWD Maxima turbo would be great for $40k-ish. TOO great of a deal. That's the point.
Nissan already gives 260 reasons not to buy a Camry/Accord. 3-series are already way into the mid-upper $30k range. Base 3-series are in the $30k range but in order to have ANY options, you have to tack on at least $5-$7 worth of stuff.
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
Ok jeff they should Beef up the G35 then also, Look at there sales, they completley sucked, and with all those options, who wouldnt pay 40k for that car. Youd be getting an awesome deal if you ask me. You need to give people a better reason why not to by a Camry or an Accord, or an A4, or a 3 Series.
#67
I think if Nissan wants to up the power of the Maxima, they will have to go AWD. That's the most logical option to me. Because the mechanicals aready exist. No turbo will be offered though. Too expensive.
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
ok, but still, you have to admit I bring up a good point about the whole amping up thing
#68
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I think if Nissan wants to up the power of the Maxima, they will have to go AWD. That's the most logical option to me. Because the mechanicals aready exist. No turbo will be offered though. Too expensive.
True, but not a bad idea, AWD sounds like the most plausible answer to Nissans bad Maxima sales, I say they dump the 6th Gen look completley, it looks like a full size old people sedan. Thats what Cadillac did, and look at there sales, o and there winning awards up.
#69
Originally Posted by Ni_Nos_Maxima
True, but not a bad idea, AWD sounds like the most plausible answer to Nissans bad Maxima sales, I say they dump the 6th Gen look completley, it looks like a full size old people sedan. Thats what Cadillac did, and look at there sales, o and there winning awards up.
#70
Did you not get what I ment with the Cadillac thing, What the resale value on one of those new XLR's. Or even Better, I know the resale value on a STi is gonna be crasy high. Why would you aim your sales on a Crowd of people thats dyeing, Cadillac literally said the same thing at there auto show last year, thast why theyve change so much, cause literally the market buyers where dying out. Nissan should aim there marketing on 28-45 year old age group. Basically it should stop making there Flagship Sedan into a Old people car with little oomph
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The next Max should not be RWD. The maxima isnt a sports car, and IMO, wont ever be. The maxima is their flagship car at Nissan. If they put the AWD, they are gonna have to go with a whole new platform. Also, with the weight, most likely, they are going to have to put a beefier engine in there. What's the point? They've got a great 3.5 liter engine in the car right now, it works great, and is still rather fuel efficient. Putting a v8 in the car would decrease mileage, throw out the 3.5, and possibly cause problems later on. That engine hasnt been out for long, and nobody really knows yet what kind of problems it will have in the long run. The cost of the maxima to the consumer would go sky high, and all in all, it would be just as good, if not better, to buy an Infinity. I think the maxima is going to stay FWD, with the 3.5 liter in it, for a long time. If they made the kind of changes everyone here is wanting, then it wouldnt appeal to the average person as much, and it would also mean basically redesigning the car from the ground up, which is not going to happen.
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Originally Posted by Maxima95Tuner
The next Max should not be RWD. The maxima isnt a sports car, and IMO, wont ever be. The maxima is their flagship car at Nissan. If they put the AWD, they are gonna have to go with a whole new platform. Also, with the weight, most likely, they are going to have to put a beefier engine in there. What's the point? They've got a great 3.5 liter engine in the car right now, it works great, and is still rather fuel efficient. Putting a v8 in the car would decrease mileage, throw out the 3.5, and possibly cause problems later on. That engine hasnt been out for long, and nobody really knows yet what kind of problems it will have in the long run. The cost of the maxima to the consumer would go sky high, and all in all, it would be just as good, if not better, to buy an Infinity. I think the maxima is going to stay FWD, with the 3.5 liter in it, for a long time. If they made the kind of changes everyone here is wanting, then it wouldnt appeal to the average person as much, and it would also mean basically redesigning the car from the ground up, which is not going to happen.
If you are referring to the V8, Infiniti has been using V8s in their Q45 for COUNTLESS years, and it has won many awards. That is the engine platform that Nissan would consider "basing" the Maxima on, granted they choose to do RWD.
If you are referring to the 3.5 VQ, the problems are all adaptable to the 3.0, with a little less/more depending on what angle you are looking at it from. The VQ is proven, with by bar many less problems than that of the same class competitors.
#78
A maxima is FWD....always has been.....if you change the entire drivetrain layout, you no longer have a maxima, you have something else.
RWD would completely change the maxima's performance and handling in most respects (weight distro, etc...)
If you want RWD so much, just go buy a RWD car....that's a pretty simple solution....
RWD would completely change the maxima's performance and handling in most respects (weight distro, etc...)
If you want RWD so much, just go buy a RWD car....that's a pretty simple solution....
#79
Originally Posted by irish44j
A maxima is FWD....always has been.....if you change the entire drivetrain layout, you no longer have a maxima, you have something else.
RWD would completely change the maxima's performance and handling in most respects (weight distro, etc...)
If you want RWD so much, just go buy a RWD car....that's a pretty simple solution....
RWD would completely change the maxima's performance and handling in most respects (weight distro, etc...)
If you want RWD so much, just go buy a RWD car....that's a pretty simple solution....
It always has been FWD??? Ummm the 1st gen was RWD...then 2nd-6th are FWD. Please tell me what the 2nd-6th gens are since the layout was changed from the 1st gen.
#80
Indeed, I stand corrected.....I was 7 years old last time there was a RWD max.....that said, wonder why they changed to FWD....hmmmm?
Well, there were also 1st-gen diesel maxes....do we really want a 7th gen, RWD, DIESEL maxima?
Fact is, for most of us, the maxima is our daily driver, so it has to be good in all weather...reason #1 why it's good to have FWD....if I had a dollar for how many times I give my buddy a ride to work on snowy days because his M3 can't go anywhere...I'd be rich.
I mean, why all these complaints about FWD vs. RWD....there are a ton of RWD cars out there that you can get that are just as powerful and classy as a maxima, so why not just get one of those?'
The maxima has been FWD for what, 20 years now? And it's doing ok, judging by how much most on this .org love their cars.
Just saw a mercedes commercial for a new AWD sedan, and it struck me: There are ALOT of previously RWD-only high-class sedans (BMW, Mercedes, Infiniti, etc...) that are now offered with AWD.....I think BMW offers ALL their cars with it now (though I may be wrong).
Now there is a commercial for Lexus is330 on tv....and strangely enough, it touts "front wheel drive" as the top feature. Imagine that.
The reason for that? People realize that having only a RWD car is not always practical, especially if you happen to live someplace where it snows alot....
Just my 2 cents...sorry about the inaccurate comment re: 1st gen....can't say I know much about them..
Ok sorry to ramble on, just ****es me off to hear everyone ***** about maxima being FWD...if you wanted RWD so much, why did you buy a FWD SEDAN??????
Well, there were also 1st-gen diesel maxes....do we really want a 7th gen, RWD, DIESEL maxima?
Fact is, for most of us, the maxima is our daily driver, so it has to be good in all weather...reason #1 why it's good to have FWD....if I had a dollar for how many times I give my buddy a ride to work on snowy days because his M3 can't go anywhere...I'd be rich.
I mean, why all these complaints about FWD vs. RWD....there are a ton of RWD cars out there that you can get that are just as powerful and classy as a maxima, so why not just get one of those?'
The maxima has been FWD for what, 20 years now? And it's doing ok, judging by how much most on this .org love their cars.
Just saw a mercedes commercial for a new AWD sedan, and it struck me: There are ALOT of previously RWD-only high-class sedans (BMW, Mercedes, Infiniti, etc...) that are now offered with AWD.....I think BMW offers ALL their cars with it now (though I may be wrong).
Now there is a commercial for Lexus is330 on tv....and strangely enough, it touts "front wheel drive" as the top feature. Imagine that.
The reason for that? People realize that having only a RWD car is not always practical, especially if you happen to live someplace where it snows alot....
Just my 2 cents...sorry about the inaccurate comment re: 1st gen....can't say I know much about them..
Ok sorry to ramble on, just ****es me off to hear everyone ***** about maxima being FWD...if you wanted RWD so much, why did you buy a FWD SEDAN??????