Iron Lung's car with cams and Cattman headers *Vid*
Originally Posted by Dave B
I don't. That looks like a 40-50mph zone. Seeing that the truck was going a constant speed and he was WOT probably from a 10-15mph roll, it sure didn't look like he really took off that fast nor pulled away from the truck that hard. To me it didn't look like he took off terribly quick, but of course watching from the outside of the car be deceiving. Since he has the stock 6500rpm limiter and he only runs through 2nd gear (good to 66mph or so), it takes him approximately 6 seconds to get to the top 2nd (assuming he wrapped 2nd out close to redline). He goes WOT at ~3 seconds and let's off at ~9 seconds.
The fact that his MEVI wasn't working means little because he doesn't have the JWT ecu's extended redline, plus the MEVI does very little if anything from 0-70mph. It's too bad he doesn't have a 95-97 because he could really take advantage of all that extra topend power.
That lope sounds pretty cool, but it sounds nothing like a V8 with a crazy cam. If you guys think that sounds like a V8, you need to get your ears checked
BTW, I think the reason his MEVI is falling is because he has way too much vacuum line. His MAP sensor sits over by the timing chain which makes the system have to pull a lot of vacuum in the line. You need to keep the line as short has possible. It looks to me like he has about 2+' of line. That's way too much vacuum "head" (no not that head). I have about 8-10" of vacuum line operating the MEVI system. Here's his system:
Dave
The fact that his MEVI wasn't working means little because he doesn't have the JWT ecu's extended redline, plus the MEVI does very little if anything from 0-70mph. It's too bad he doesn't have a 95-97 because he could really take advantage of all that extra topend power.
That lope sounds pretty cool, but it sounds nothing like a V8 with a crazy cam. If you guys think that sounds like a V8, you need to get your ears checked
BTW, I think the reason his MEVI is falling is because he has way too much vacuum line. His MAP sensor sits over by the timing chain which makes the system have to pull a lot of vacuum in the line. You need to keep the line as short has possible. It looks to me like he has about 2+' of line. That's way too much vacuum "head" (no not that head). I have about 8-10" of vacuum line operating the MEVI system. Here's his system:
Dave
kind of way, but in the 
kind of way.for all of you that are assuming i think "chirping" tires means you are fast, you are overanalyzing what i said.. i just said that it seems like his car has lost a lot of power down low but the way it moved. and finding out there is an mevi, proves that fact.
what were the conditions on walking the srt4, and are you sure it was a srt4?
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
i love you dave.. not in that kind of way, but in the kind of way.
for all of you that are assuming i think "chirping" tires means you are fast, you are overanalyzing what i said.. i just said that it seems like his car has lost a lot of power down low but the way it moved. and finding out there is an mevi, proves that fact.
what were the conditions on walking the srt4, and are you sure it was a srt4?
kind of way, but in the kind of way.for all of you that are assuming i think "chirping" tires means you are fast, you are overanalyzing what i said.. i just said that it seems like his car has lost a lot of power down low but the way it moved. and finding out there is an mevi, proves that fact.
what were the conditions on walking the srt4, and are you sure it was a srt4?
And as for the SRT-4, PM the original poster as he was a witness...And no one said walk...
Originally Posted by IwANnAMaX96
Well the cams (& MEVI of course) themselves caused him to lose low end but allow him to pull strong to redline like no other N/A max can. After looking at his dyno results I noticed that he was making the same exact amount of torque at redline as he was at 3500 RPM, but he traded off significant losses below 3000 RPM.
And as for the SRT-4, PM the original poster as he was a witness...And no one said walk...
And as for the SRT-4, PM the original poster as he was a witness...And no one said walk...
)?what do srt4's run, mid 14's?
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Originally Posted by Y2KSESteve
He posted about his dyno in the 4th gen forum. This SRT went 13.88 stock.
A better indicator of power would be what mph he is trapping at.
Sounds fu<kin loud. You would know by the sound of that maxima coming down the road that this car would be freakin suped up. I would shiit in my pants if I were next to it in the street.
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Originally Posted by ImStockBaby
I listened to the 2nd video again, and it totally reminds me of a 9 second rotary engine at idle..anyone else think so?
Not really...sounds like a stroked 3.8L GM engine (they are usually found on GNX's) without the boost...
It really has some potential.
Thank you everyone for your feedback. Dave thank you for the idea about the VI, I will remember to install the lines closer when I install my VI on Steve's car. I'm going to stick with the stock manifold and install a direct port system on it. I seems to pull better with this intake. I'm also going to get a new exhaust because the header collector is 3" the test pipe is 2 1/2 and the b-pipe is 2 1/4". I am looking for a good 3" b-pipe and 3" muffler with dual outlets so if anyone has any feedback I would be appreciative. As far as the srt4, its the one you see in the second vid. He will now stomp my ***, I'm sure. He installed this week the mopar catback, mopar stage 1 ECU, mopar bov, Apex turbo timer and wastegate actuator and next week he's getting a 3" downpipe and a K&N typhoon intake. We will definitely take some vids of his car, my car and Steve's max(us on bottle). Good times, lol.
Originally Posted by takentomax
Sounds fu<kin loud. You would know by the sound of that maxima coming down the road that this car would be freakin suped up. I would shiit in my pants if I were next to it in the street.
maybe you have never experienced a "bubba" truck from the south, or their cousin, the "bubba" car..
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Originally Posted by thebigsadler
i am sorry.. but i couldn't help laughing at this one. wow... i mean are you really serious?
maybe you have never experienced a "bubba" truck from the south, or their cousin, the "bubba" car..
maybe you have never experienced a "bubba" truck from the south, or their cousin, the "bubba" car..
Everyone seems to like it, and you're the only one with anything negative to say about it.
Originally Posted by Maxima95Tuner
Everyone seems to like it, and you're the only one with anything negative to say about it.
great another thing i need to buy for my car after suspension and rimz. i think you would still get that sound without the headers though....
i guess cams and a remote cutout are coming next spring. *sigh*
oh and thats ****ing sick!
i guess cams and a remote cutout are coming next spring. *sigh*
oh and thats ****ing sick!
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
it's just funny to me, that's all.. when there are sufficient dyno's to prove any gains i will not posting laughing comments. but i wouldn't be surprised if it was like an 8hp gain or something from 4k-6k and losing about 10-15hp from 3-4k..
The hate is strong in this one...
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
it's just funny to me, that's all.. when there are sufficient dyno's to prove any gains i will not posting laughing comments. but i wouldn't be surprised if it was like an 8hp gain or something from 4k-6k and losing about 10-15hp from 3-4k..
Here are the numbers Jason
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
i am sorry.. but i couldn't help laughing at this one. wow... i mean are you really serious?
...believe what you want and think of me as the a$$hole but its just not happening I don't care if you were at 7 psi and 3" exhaust. As far as the arogant comments well it does seem that way. I don't know you and I'm sure you come across different in person but on the forum you act like your $hit doesn't stink(insert the I know I'm better than everyone you all suck comment here). Now Im sure you will have some joke to come at this post like you have in you're last couple posts in this thread and if thats what makes you happy go for it.
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
but i wouldn't be surprised if it was like an 8hp gain or something from 4k-6k and losing about 10-15hp from 3-4k..
. When racing you tell me when you are under 4k besides the split second launch...
Originally Posted by asu174
YOU A$$HOLES. I am forwarding this to Phoenix PD and reporting you all for street racing. 
j/k Anyhow, that sounds crazy! I don't know if I could handle that in a daily driver though.
j/k Anyhow, that sounds crazy! I don't know if I could handle that in a daily driver though.
Originally Posted by optimus310
Have you ever herd a muscle car at idle?
I love the way that sounds. You should watch Gone in 60 seconds. His Maxima sounds like that Mustang
Ok maybe not, but they sound so damn Nice
I love the way that sounds. You should watch Gone in 60 seconds. His Maxima sounds like that Mustang
Ok maybe not, but they sound so damn Nice
Man that sounds INSANE!!!
Originally Posted by Conrad283
So 23peak HP made, with a VI and cams??? I am sorry, but that just kind of proves everything I have ever said about the VI.. It's such a waste on an n/a car, you can't compensate for the problems that always occur and it hardly ever kicking in correctly. Maybe I am just saying for experiences told me, and experiences that I have been posted.. since I wouldn't waste a cent on a VI.
So the dyno is saying that since the VI was working the cams and headers gave 23peak HP, but lost 10tq? I am just trying to gather my information.. And this setup walked (or hung with) a SRT-4?
Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
I can't help but to still laugh at you thinking you walked a Z06 ...believe what you want and think of me as the a$$hole but its just not happening I don't care if you were at 7 psi and 3" exhaust.
As far as the arogant comments well it does seem that way. I don't know you and I'm sure you come across different in person but on the forum you act like your $hit doesn't stink(insert the I know I'm better than everyone you all suck comment here). Now Im sure you will have some joke to come at this post like you have in you're last couple posts in this thread and if thats what makes you happy go for it.
...believe what you want and think of me as the a$$hole but its just not happening I don't care if you were at 7 psi and 3" exhaust. As far as the arogant comments well it does seem that way. I don't know you and I'm sure you come across different in person but on the forum you act like your $hit doesn't stink(insert the I know I'm better than everyone you all suck comment here). Now Im sure you will have some joke to come at this post like you have in you're last couple posts in this thread and if thats what makes you happy go for it.
I understand seeing is believing, but at the end of the day, if you don't believe me and you think i am some arrogant ***** you have another thing coming. If I such an arrogant *****, why would I fork over thousands in prototyping things for this community?? Why would I do that? You can call alex from swa right now and ask him who was the 1st person to buy an air ride kit and work all the kinks out... Who is starting a carbon fiber trunk lid and more to come for the maxima community? Who is assisting in the production of a turbo kit with better proven numbers per psi than any other kit out there?
If I was some arrogant little ***** like you play me out to be, I would do nothing but flaunt that all over the place.. but this is one of the only times I bring that **** up and I have never asked for credit or praise from anyone on this board.. I am not trying to argue with you or start anything, I just want to know where you come off with all these alligations?
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
Thanks a lot.
So 23peak HP made, with a VI and cams??? I am sorry, but that just kind of proves everything I have ever said about the VI.. It's such a waste on an n/a car, you can't compensate for the problems that always occur and it hardly ever kicking in correctly. Maybe I am just saying for experiences told me, and experiences that I have been posted.. since I wouldn't waste a cent on a VI.
So the dyno is saying that since the VI was working the cams and headers gave 23peak HP, but lost 10tq? I am just trying to gather my information.. And this setup walked (or hung with) a SRT-4?
So 23peak HP made, with a VI and cams??? I am sorry, but that just kind of proves everything I have ever said about the VI.. It's such a waste on an n/a car, you can't compensate for the problems that always occur and it hardly ever kicking in correctly. Maybe I am just saying for experiences told me, and experiences that I have been posted.. since I wouldn't waste a cent on a VI.
So the dyno is saying that since the VI was working the cams and headers gave 23peak HP, but lost 10tq? I am just trying to gather my information.. And this setup walked (or hung with) a SRT-4?
27 WHP
And let's be honest, this is the FIRST NA maxima I have seen with over 200 WHP
When you look at the numbers and the RPM, the VI is a MUST for those who want the most area under the curve
And for someone who does not own a VI, you make it sound like you know all the problems.
Which BTW were almost ALL related to Harlan RPM switches
Well since I have an auto, boost is out of the question, don't want to do a 5-spd swap. And I always loved the sound of cams, and now hearing them on a Maxima, I want them even more. 
It definetly sounds a lot better in the 2nd pair of videos, with the catback setup. OMG I'm gonna faint
It definetly sounds a lot better in the 2nd pair of videos, with the catback setup. OMG I'm gonna faint
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
It's an online forum, what people say can be taken in so many ways. I do not have a proven dyno on my 3" exhaust running 7psi. I can take a video for you, running against a B20 swapped, turbo'd 350whp civic and stomping all over it. This same civic ran mid-low 13's at the track. I did not race him from a stop, as I did not race a z06 from a stop...
I understand seeing is believing, but at the end of the day, if you don't believe me and you think i am some arrogant ***** you have another thing coming. If I such an arrogant *****, why would I fork over thousands in prototyping things for this community?? Why would I do that? You can call alex from swa right now and ask him who was the 1st person to buy an air ride kit and work all the kinks out... Who is starting a carbon fiber trunk lid and more to come for the maxima community? Who is assisting in the production of a turbo kit with better proven numbers per psi than any other kit out there?
If I was some arrogant little ***** like you play me out to be, I would do nothing but flaunt that all over the place.. but this is one of the only times I bring that **** up and I have never asked for credit or praise from anyone on this board.. I am not trying to argue with you or start anything, I just want to know where you come off with all these alligations?
I understand seeing is believing, but at the end of the day, if you don't believe me and you think i am some arrogant ***** you have another thing coming. If I such an arrogant *****, why would I fork over thousands in prototyping things for this community?? Why would I do that? You can call alex from swa right now and ask him who was the 1st person to buy an air ride kit and work all the kinks out... Who is starting a carbon fiber trunk lid and more to come for the maxima community? Who is assisting in the production of a turbo kit with better proven numbers per psi than any other kit out there?
If I was some arrogant little ***** like you play me out to be, I would do nothing but flaunt that all over the place.. but this is one of the only times I bring that **** up and I have never asked for credit or praise from anyone on this board.. I am not trying to argue with you or start anything, I just want to know where you come off with all these alligations?
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
Thanks a lot.
So 23peak HP made, with a VI and cams??? I am sorry, but that just kind of proves everything I have ever said about the VI.. It's such a waste on an n/a car, you can't compensate for the problems that always occur and it hardly ever kicking in correctly. Maybe I am just saying for experiences told me, and experiences that I have been posted.. since I wouldn't waste a cent on a VI.
So the dyno is saying that since the VI was working the cams and headers gave 23peak HP, but lost 10tq? I am just trying to gather my information.. And this setup walked (or hung with) a SRT-4?
So 23peak HP made, with a VI and cams??? I am sorry, but that just kind of proves everything I have ever said about the VI.. It's such a waste on an n/a car, you can't compensate for the problems that always occur and it hardly ever kicking in correctly. Maybe I am just saying for experiences told me, and experiences that I have been posted.. since I wouldn't waste a cent on a VI.
So the dyno is saying that since the VI was working the cams and headers gave 23peak HP, but lost 10tq? I am just trying to gather my information.. And this setup walked (or hung with) a SRT-4?
Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
true I don't see a VI really worth it unless your car fits within the years for the JWT ECU with raised rev limiter. I think Dave B, Neal, I30 Mike, and a few others have proven this on N/A cars. After all Matt is the first to break 200whp on a 4th gen on motor and considering cars dynoing 190whp trapping 99-100 I do see him pulling on a stock srt-4.
Y2KSESteve, he Is going to be running nitrous with his Cams, Headers and MEVI right? so should his NA numbers really matter....? The lose of torque will be easily made up for with nitrous.... Let see the peek hp of his full set up ! just my 2 cents
