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Old Jan 10, 2004 | 05:59 PM
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I was talking to someone from a car audio forum and he says he just uses a glue gun rather than a soldering iron. Anyone ever try this?
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 06:51 PM
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sounds a little ghetto if you ask me. solder ensures a 100% joint. just covering the splice with hot glue is probably just the same as wrapping it with tape
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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A glue gun??? Not only is that ghetto, but it's dangerous. Think, if you will, just how hot it needs to be for glue to melt - even fully cured. Not much. Now, think of how darned HOT the inside of a vehicle gets on a nice summer day.
Whoever told you that, was probably the SAME guy that burns cars up by drilling through harnesses on a regular basis.
Soldering iron/tape is, hands down, the BEST method period. Better connectivity (over butt connectors and the like), and virtually eliminates the chance of wires coming loose (ala the strip-and-splice method)
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Is the glue gun letting out solder instead of glue or something? I cant believe that someone would use glue to hold a connection.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:25 PM
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Yeah, if he uses solder IN a glue gun, that just might work...never thought of it before though.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:01 PM
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ummm...i don't really see the point, you still have a device what can burn and melt solder....although i suppose it would be easier to apply to wires....
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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That's not recommended at all. All of my joints/repairs always use solder or SpliceLok connectors.



Originally Posted by sk24iam
I was talking to someone from a car audio forum and he says he just uses a glue gun rather than a soldering iron. Anyone ever try this?
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 11:28 PM
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If you guys notice, when solder melts, it turns nearly to liquid. Glue guns have to force the glue stick out when it's melted. Solder would just shoot out of the gun, or drip out.

Glue is definately way too ghetto. It's like trying to hold wires together witih a piece of gum.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 01:44 AM
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i've tied and wrapped plenty of large wires.. no problems yet.

but you sure it's not the silicone gooey stuff the phone company uses on their phone jacks and wires? that wouldn't hold anything together but it provides a very nice shielding against water and debris.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 02:20 AM
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Originally Posted by EvilRoadsVictim
i've tied and wrapped plenty of large wires.. no problems yet.

but you sure it's not the silicone gooey stuff the phone company uses on their phone jacks and wires? that wouldn't hold anything together but it provides a very nice shielding against water and debris.
I think your talking about that liquid electric tape. I dont think you want that stuff anywere around your car
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 02:43 AM
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You could never stick solder in a glue gun. That's just retarded. The tip of a soldering iron is typically about 600 degrees. You're not going to get solder hot enough with a glue gun. Second, any engineer world half a salt (hopefully me included) will tell you that soldering is not exactly the process of "dripping" solder onto a connection.. You need to make a bond with the wires by getting them hot enough to attract the metals in the solder. Dripping solder on a cold wire does not make as good a bond. If you are talking about audio wires, you want the best bond you can get.. not just for strength, but also to minimize interference..
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by hakk97se
You could never stick solder in a glue gun. That's just retarded. The tip of a soldering iron is typically about 600 degrees. You're not going to get solder hot enough with a glue gun. Second, any engineer world half a salt (hopefully me included) will tell you that soldering is not exactly the process of "dripping" solder onto a connection.. You need to make a bond with the wires by getting them hot enough to attract the metals in the solder. Dripping solder on a cold wire does not make as good a bond. If you are talking about audio wires, you want the best bond you can get.. not just for strength, but also to minimize interference..

Well said.
Old Jan 11, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by nubiannupe
A glue gun??? Not only is that ghetto, but it's dangerous. Think, if you will, just how hot it needs to be for glue to melt - even fully cured. Not much. Now, think of how darned HOT the inside of a vehicle gets on a nice summer day.
Whoever told you that, was probably the SAME guy that burns cars up by drilling through harnesses on a regular basis.
Soldering iron/tape is, hands down, the BEST method period. Better connectivity (over butt connectors and the like), and virtually eliminates the chance of wires coming loose (ala the strip-and-splice method)
I would go with soldered splices and heat shrink tubing.
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