Three 14 year-old passengers were killed last night in KC, MO when the 16 year-old driver lost control and hit on-coming traffic while racing in a residential area. The integra that they were in was completely destroyed. Not trying to preach, everybody knows the risks of racing...just be careful and stay off of residential roads.

 

Hopefully everyone here uses better judgement. I usually only race on roads and areas that I'm familiar with and that usually means wide open roads.

 

Unfortunately this happens far too often.. People are just to built up on adreynalyn(sp) to realize what they are doing when they are doing it..

personally the driving age should be 18 or even 20.. the way i see it..

 

sprint that would help but that is far from a real solution

you know...if the government wants to regulate speeding so much why dont they just set limiters on all cars to 65 DUHHH!...cause of income!

 

because those little gay politicians wouldn't be able to drive their porches, vettes and vipers at high speeds on weekends.. so they wouldn't vote that..

 

Not to mention every one whould rip the damn speed limeter out in a heart beat,at least I know I would.

 

Not to mention the amount of money the state makes giving out speeding tickets.

There's no way they'll put a limiter on cars

 

I would never street race with 3 passengers in the car.

 

totally agree....It's one thing to endager your own life by taking such risks. But to endager your passengers lives is just irresponsible.

 

Actually we put other drivers on the road in danger also. I think pride is a real problem with some drivers. A couple months ago I heard about an accident in which a father and his child died. It all happened because two Mustangs were racing on a single lane road and both drivers were not smart enough to let the race go when they had an uncoming vehicle.

 

yep yep cuz weight kills performace.

 

I'm not trying to preach either, but make sure you look both ways before proceeding across any street. It is statistically proven that you are more likely to loose your life to somebody hitting you while crossing the street than being a victim of a faulty street race. Sorry to add a humorous twist to this post, I just don't like signing on to an 'adult' forum, (as we are all at least 16 years of age and have some sort of competence because we are able to operate an automobile and sign on to the internet), but I don't like reading parental type posts concerning a subject manner that most of our parents covered with us when we began to drive. This is an un-needed post and agrivates me that you feel the need to warn everyone of the dangers of street racing, as if everyones' intellect is somehow inferior to yours and we don't realize that people can die when a car crashes at 120mph.

 

I totally agree, we are pretty much all mature adults, I thought I was done with parental lectures when I moved out of my parents place......jeez guys.

 

See you carry a very interesting and annoying attitude. What's so wrong with warning about street racing? Perhaps you have more sense than A LOT of people on this forum that will race anytime anywhere.

Being an adult has nothing to do with age, it's about attitude. Being 21 does not make you an adult, it just makes you 21. It completely aggrivates me that you take such a negative attitude towards someone that has compasion and care about OTHER's lives.

You would be amazing at what people think they can get away with when they are behind the wheel... and to assume that he was attacking your intellect, you know what they say about assume....

-Shing

 

Ditto that.

 

Ok Shing, I will begin to make irratic posts stating all the dangers of driving. I will make seperate posts to remind people that stopping at stop signs can be very beneficial, you should not run red lights, never drive when you are tired, even if you had one beer give your keys to somebody else, and...don't forget to wipe your a*s after you finish taking a sh*t.

Regardless of the age or maturity of anybody on this board, I'm sure everyone, including the people that have your d*ck hanging out the side of their mouth's (plrod black) would agree that we should leave the parenting to our parents, and when we are browsing the maxima.org boards in our spare time we don't appreciate authoritative posts that really have no place here.

 

I don't think that's parenting... if you feel that's parenting... than everything should IS around here. We ask for advise, that's what our parents do... we ask for direction, that's what our parents do. No one is parenting. Simplying pointing out the dangers to street racing. Why do you take such offense to that? Tell me... what's SO wrong about something saying: "becareful out there, some kids just got kill while street racing tonight". Just what the **** is so wrong about that?

I don't understand a lot of the attitude that goes on this forum. If you(not you, but in general) does not like an advise givien, you flame and say it's an attack. But when you do, it's the best damn thing in the world. If you have such a problem with a post, don't read it... don't continue to click on the link when there's a reply. If you continue to, then you can't complain... why? because you had the opportunity to "stop the madness" but you didn't... you chose to click the link and go into the thread.

There's no parenting in here... if my kid were like some here, I would shoot myself. I have much more to do with my time than to parent you people. But someone that makes a post like the orinigal should not be flamed... he was just concerned with the increasing number of death that occur because of people thinking they are better than they really are behind the wheel. If you don't like the thread... don't reply, move on.

-Shing

 

I was trying to be nice but since you now are getting personal with this I will tell you what I was thinking.

Let's start with the web page, or wannabe business. Use spell check for starters if you're serious about being in business. Then work on your use of the English language. No one considering spending money on advertising would pay you any attention given the lack of (fill in the blank)evidenced on your so called site. IMO the people that see your window art on your car then see your web page will be left with a similar impression to mine: A school aged work in process.

Your car is nice. Except for the white windshield wiper, the window art, and the new inner tails. They don't add to a good look IMHO.

Your attitude towards the person who started this post/thread shows who you are. Your response to my post further defines you.

This thread is right on the money. A reminder to all who visit here to use good judgement. It is nothing else.

Consider yourself ignored.

Go figure.

 

Lol, I'll have to respond to this post when I return from a meeting. But i will leave you with this...I am ever so sorry that my "wannabe business" does not meet your criteria. I will not disclose how much I make per month as it would put you in your place, but I assume that I won't be contracting you as a client!?! Darn

 

Hey, I'm back...After how today's meeting went I really feel no need to respond to your ever so intellegent remarks. I bid you good day, and please becareful when street racing, as it can kill.

 

Since i started the thread, I feel I should reply to your arrogance. Personally I don't care if you street race. If you feel the need prove yourself by racing a Honda Civic or whatever to the next stoplight, more power to you. My point was this, the person that got hit head-on could have been me. I would prefer to not be killed by someone who was racing down the road, glancing over to see where the competition was and ran over the divider line. There's reason to flame and then continue to flame simple reminders to be safe and consider that we share the road.

Also, no one cares how much you make. You make a point to tell people to keep posts like this off the forum because they're not relevant. Well, guess what, your monthly income is entirely more irrelevant than my original post. You made your point with your first post, why continue?

 

I know who this kid was because he was at the local street in Kansas City. He's alive, but in critical condition. His three friends are dead, two of which met their death by being ejected from the car. These kids were racing on a very busy street, in rush hour, and in the rain. The other racer fled the scene and the police have a few leads. Last night at the street races, the police were in full effect with a cops crusing the area every 3-5 minutes.


Dave

 

Hey Dave, I'm over in Lawrence. Did you hear about the kid who got killed on the Suzuki Hayabusa the day before in OP? I work with one of his roommates, they say he flipped it while hotdogging through traffic. Definately a bad week for the KC area.

 

....please becareful when street racing....> Isn't this an oxymoron? Just how careful can you be when street racing? Some of these posts are ridiculous...70mph, 120mph, etc. Define the level of carefulness one must take when street racing? My answer...there are no precautions you can take that will make street racing safe. SO STOP STREET RACING, F**KERS! Go to the racetrack if you want to prove your manliness, or the lack thereof.

This board should ban all street racing posts. It serves no purpose at all. Why do you think that the "Guiness Book of World Records" drop some of the records, e.g., longest time holding your breath underwater, etc? Because it is dangerous, and should not be publicized....It serves no purpose.

 

attitudes like that is what makes sure you don't get clients.. im not sure if you were just talking down or talking normal, but you sir would have a hard time getting buisness contacts talking the way you do.

 

Thats what I need: someone to tell me to stop street racing. Hey thanks for the advice. Why don't you tell my best friend to stop smoking while your at it (I don't think hes aware of the dangers). Oh yeah and I definatly need you to tell me that my underage drinking habits are illigal and dangerous as well. The warm weather is coming my mustang is getting fixed and I can't wait to get out and start racing again. (By the way I crashed my car going like 20mph in the snow not in a street race so the danger of crashing is always there reguardless.) I'm sure evryone here has there opinion on street racing. Just like everyone here knows the dangers of street racing wether they choose to do it or not. I would finaly like to say, although this may seem like a flame it most definitaly is not. Just expressing my views.

So to all those who are with me: ONWARD TO THE STREETS!!!!!!

 

Phil, you have no idea..."[I] would have a hard time getting buisness contacts talking the way [I] do." I'm sorry that I do not keep the same level of professionalism while posting on these maxima forums as I do when I am having lunch with a client at table 22, outside of Gigi's in Mizner Park, Boca Raton but I don't feel a need to. When I'm at a bar watching Monday night football with the guys over beers and buffalo wings, should I compose myself as if I am negotiating a multi-thousand dollar contract with a multi-million dollar on-line firm? I sincerely apologize that the etiquette and demeanor I choose to use while posting in these forums does not exceed your expectations of how I should conduct myself in sucn an enivronment...but yeah...that's life!

 

Maximus, I see where you are coming from, but I'll be very honest when I say I probably will not stop street racing. I think I street race in a relatively safe manner. My rules to street racing:

-area has to be a wide two lane 45mph zone

-no other visible cars in front

-race is to 70-75mph

-well lite area

-no streets that can turn into the racer's path

This type of street racing is very common where I live. We've got some great places to race. I only race guys that know what they are doing. We do have those idiots that will race anywhere, anytime, and no matter how fast (typically the younger Honda guys). By 70mph, you know who's gonna win. If it's neck and neck then it's a draw. Lately, I've given up much of my street racing because the track is open. Little by little my urge to street race is thinning or maybe I'm more worried about loosing my license. Now I just go and watch, for the most part.


Dave

 

I can appreciat that...You have a set of rules to help make something that can be extremely dangerous, just a tid-bit safer. However, I did not understand one of the rules. What's the difference if you're doing 75mph in a 25 or a 30 or a 40...etc? If you will not race until there are no other cars in site than I am not sure how the posted speed limit for that road should make any difference?!?

 

No I will not tell your friend to stop smoking. He will croak soon enough. Just ask Morton Downey Jr. However, for your personal good, I would urge you to look up "cirrhosis" in the dictionary!!!

I would also like all state licensing facilities to administer a spelling test....if you cannot spell simple words like "you're", "definitely", "regardless", "finally", "everyone", "whether", or "illegal" correctly, then you should not be issued a drivers license!

 

Look. Even if everyone that comes to this post...hell, if every single Maxima driver NEVER raced; it wouldn't solve ****.

Every individual should use good judgement, but we must all remember (at least for the male half of the human species) the "one up" deal. Ya know, where one guy cannot and will not let another guy get "one up" on him. No man that I know wants to be shown up by another. Doesn't matter if your talking about racing, game, or even who can drink the most in one night. It's in our genetic profile.

With the above in mind, there will never be a complete solution or resolution short of taking the right away to drive automobiles. Just do the best that you can to prevent from killing yourself and the ones in your car (if applicable).

 

really i could care less how u speak here.. im just saying that by acting like a know it all kid you wouldn't get **** from almost any customer.. i know theres a difference with how you act.. like with friends you might talk totally different than when ur dealing with the old jewish ny customers that your dealing with at the time wow.. mulit-thousand dollar deal.. you know thats pretty impressive.. however thats really petty money if you want to get down to it.. im not sure the line of work your in so i can't truely say its cheap, but those figures really don't do it for me.. better off finishing law school there kido

 

- I'm sure that many of you have read or have learned about Sigmund Freud...
- Thus, according to Freud, a street race, typically spontaneous in nature, is a foolish attempt to assert's one Phallus. You are racing your testosterone-injected egos, not your cars.
- I would personally recommend either getting into a good, clean, refereed fist-fight or just BUYING SOME TRACK TIME. It really is not that hard or expensive to find a road course or some drag strip and get all your gigglies out there. It is relatively safer, you can go much faster, and you at least get some pictures, video, or time slips to prove your all-important phallus.
- Stop being such whiny, self-absorbed, rice-covered, babies. Street racing is not legal, it is not as safe as driving politely, and it does nothing but either give you a quick-fix (winning) or a sudden downer (losing). I hate street-racers for your self-centered excuses and your crappy driving.
- BTW, going really fast in a straight line is not all that challenging unless your car can run a sub 10 second 1/4 mile. Go learn how to DRIVE, not mash the go-pedal and, in all too few cases, shift.

- I look forward to some intelligent rebuttle.

 

What the hell did I say "This is not a flame". When I am typing I really don't give a s*it about my spelling and grammer, as long as you get the point. I should not be issude a licence? Thats the most ignorant sh*t I've ever heard. How bout you come to CT and I "issue" you an *** kicking lurker. By the way I try to stay open minded to people untill they make a personal attack on me (which you have done). Now I am not open minded to your point of view any more. Thanks for your opinion on street racing. Go buy a civic join up with the homos at RASR. You know the people who are agaist street racing: a) because they drive slow cars on the street b) because they they have no judment skills to determine when its safe to race. So screw you and your opinion. And to everyone else I'm sorry I had to clutter the forum with this post.

 

Clearly spoken by a guy who's never been to the 1/4 mile track. I'd love to see you try to pull some 2.2 60 foots with radial tires on a rubber covered launch pad. There is much more to drag racing than you'll clearly ever know and I'll leave it at that. Can you honestly sit there and tell me you've never "wrapped" out your Max and exceeded the speed limit when getting on the mostly empty highway or a street? It's really no different.


CustomMax-
The roads we are racing on are extremely straight, 4 lane seperated by a large 20 foot median, and are 45mph zones. Current build standards for a 45mph street suggest safe travel of 75mph (ie there's a 30mph cushion). Many of todays newer 70mph highways are designed to safely travel at 100mph. There are guys that race to 90+mph. I'm not one of them. I hope this clarifies.


Dave

 

Interesting, I never knew that. Thanks for the explanation.