Yeah, I am the type that wont really get in to it, until I have money. The beginning of next year all hell breaks loose.

 

The head bolts simply hold the heads to the block, not really much to do with it, it is good to have them as strong as possible though, just for piece of mind. I think it has more to do with the actual valvetrain and maybe even with the metal, I am not sure how strong our alluminum heads are compared to other aftermarket heads. Casting is really a science, there are all types of thing that play a role.

But the saying goes "All the power is made in the heads, the rest of the engine just supports it".

 

hehe, the scary thing would be how thin the cylinder walls are after it is bored to a 4.3.

 

Im going to make a FAQ sheet on my webpage that I can link to people when common questions arise. Hopefully that will be beneficial to the .org.

 

Sounds good and you/I can put that in the 5th gen FAQ sticky.

 

Actually, you should talk to Kev about that. .ORG should have that, since most newbs wont know about your site. If not, then you should be able to link it.

 

OMG DONALD!!!! NO ONE'S EVER THOUGHT OF THAT BEFORE!!! You're a genius!! :

 

How ya been?

 

doing well thanks, lets not ***** up this thread more than i already have haha see you at the meet

 

Donald,
the other day you were telling me the VQ35DE is built off of the VE30, I then told you the VQ35 is a stroked VQ30, and now you come up with this idea???

 

Just dont park next to me too long, or you might get in to your car and notice 5 forward gears, then pop the hood and notice a 3 liter. Then I can come back and post about my conversion

j/p Actually it would be good to look at your tranny and see if it seems to mount the same.

...see you there.

 

Hey why don't you convert to rwd at the same time?

 

You misunderstood. I said it is like the same technology all over again, just like the VE had 10 years ago. VTC and VI stock.

AIM me so we dont kill this informational thread.

 

[04.08 - 13:29] V 1 Brian: yeah vq30 is a lot smooth then the vq35
[04.08 - 13:29] V 1 Brian: but the vq35 has way more power across the board
[04.08 - 13:29] nsm donald: yeah more discplacement
[04.08 - 13:29] nsm donald: you have a VE35
[04.08 - 13:30] V 1 Brian: haha no
[04.08 - 13:30] nsm donald: they just did away with the VE series
[04.08 - 13:30] nsm donald: and put a Q in there for quiet
[04.08 - 13:30] nsm donald: VQ = Very Quiet

You need to learn how to communicate your thoughts better!

 

lemme be the first to say VI and VTC's SUCK!

I'd rather have a more aggressive cam profile and adjustable cam gears, and a single plenum intake manifold for better top end =P

 

Yes, I type faster than I think...

VE did lay the foundation for the VQ series.

Dennis VTCs and VI help the top end so much, I really wish my VQ had the top end my VE does or a VQ30DE-k or VQ35 did.

 

This looks like quite the mod, I'm very impressed, can't wait to see some applications of it, and hopefully on here. As for the 1700hp in the VQ35, and thinking the VQ43 will take more hp, I think there's some confusion there. What I believe is meant, is the 35 block can handle 1700hp, in that you could put 1700hp into the block and it would be strong enough. The 43 block is still the same basic block, it's just been stroked to add more displacement. That means the hp limit of the block is unchanged, unless you're using a different block that happens to be made stronger. If these stroker kits get more popular, and are even used in racing applications and whatnot, we might see stronger blocks being used, therefore that 1700 rating will increase. But between now and then, I think it's safe to say that the rating is the same.

 

You people are speaking the same 'misinformation' that this thread is talking about.

The VQ35 is MORE than just a stroked VQ30. The 4.3 block is MORE than just a stroked VQ35.

Read the info folks, it's all been typed up already.

 

I think 1700hp is far fetched. Thing is even the 3.0 would have thicker and stronger cylinder walls than the 4.3 in terms of the block. With the 4.3 the cylinder walls would be thinner and on the other side of that would be water passages. The VQ is already an alluminum block and a V6. Funny cars are making this much hp and they have 2 more cylinders and another 300-400 cubic inches of discplacement and a BIG blower right on top with LOTS of boost and methane or alcohol injection and sometimes a shot of nitrous and they still blow motors VERY EASY. Now for a alluminum block v6 to crank that much power on paper thin cylinder walls, good luck. hahahahaha

 

I just started looking in to this "VQ Thing" I am a VE and domestic guy. Could you link me?

thx

 

The 4.3 cylinder walls are thiner but they have iron sleeves to strenght the block. Read the information posted so we don't have to anwser questions more than once.


The funny car thing just makes me laugh.

 

Read the second post, it talks about it and look at the pictures.

 

The 4.3 liter AEBS stroker kit comes with forged crank, rods and pistons and a cast iron sleeved block with a closed deck. In laymans term this motor is hard to blow and is stronger than stock. There is little chance of the coolant passages around the cylinders being breached, or the walls of the cylinders themselves cracking under stress or heat. The AEBS sleeves are claimed by the company to be rated up to 55psi. Obviously the rods or pistons will go before then. The 4.3 liter crank looks to be ultra beefier than the stock one too, but that's just going by pictures. I have no trouble believing that a 4.3 liter stroked and turbo charged VQ could do 1000+ hp. 1700 is pretty amazing, I'm guessing that they kept the stock displacement and just reinforced the hell out of the internals and the block. At any rate building a 1700hp VQ is pretty much building a funny car isn't it? =P

As far as the VI / VTC thing goes, most tuners would like to have one aggressive cam profile on which you have some control over the timing rather than a variable one that's hard to adjust via a stock ecu that likes conservative values. Besides it's not like VTEC, we don't have variable LIFT only timing. It would be easier to do head swaps to other VQ motors as well if we didn't have to worry about that. VI's? Who needs one? maybe for a good compromise of daily drivability, but if you just want to go fast? Single plenum intake manifold is the way to go. Take the 350z for example, no VI there. Why do you think they make top end and VQ35's don't?

 

Oh and another thing, 1700hp motors aren't meant to be daily drivers. Full on race motors get rebuilt every other race and aren't meant to last. They also run a gasoline/methanol or full methanol mix. So really it's not out of the realm of possiblity.


edit: i realized this is import drag, thus i have no idea what kind of regulations they have on fuel. Even so the AEM civic and the Mopar SRT-4 easily pump out more than 1000hp and these are 4 bangers.

 

FYI, the 350Z TT article mentioning 1,700hp was talking about a VQ35. There was NO mention of running the AEBS 4.3L.

Two different subjects *I* was putting together.

 

I know i was responding to donald's posts

 

That AEBS kit is pretty much for hardcore racers. Not many people can throw 8 - 10 grand for that kit.

 

spanishrice

I love the individual throttle bodies !!!
Can I have the BTW website ?
Do you know how much $$ individual throttle bodies system from BTW?


Thanks !!!

 

Umm go to nissanperformancemag.com Find the article on that guys 350z with the VQ30. E-mail him and he can tell you where he got them made, I lost his e-mail.

 

Just to clear a few points up throughout this thread...

Funny cars are making close to 4000 HP. Christ, there are Small block Fords pushing the 1700 HP mark on 110 octane. Some of those loonies even drive them on the street!

As far as head bolts go, they are EXTREMELY important. Crappy bolts will eventually stretch, allowing the head to slightly lift off of the deck from the pressure any given cylinder will see. The result? Constantly blown head gaskets, and even blown engines if it's really wound up when the gasket goes.

 

NHRA Top fuel dragsters and funny cars are in the 6000 hp range.

 

I stand corrected. Always happy to contribut to misinformation!

 

Can i put the AEBS 4.3 liter into VQ30DE?
Anyone try it before?

 

i am starting to wonder if the VQ30 is a better built engine than the VQ35..

i mean the VQ30 was always built for racing.. but..

the new Skyline will be the VQ30... everyone i see who has done up a 350Z (JUN) has used a VQ30 .. hmm

 

no it did not

 

AEBS does not make a 4.3. They make a 4.2 and a 4.4.

 

ok i wanna know one thing straight up someone can buy the full kit and turn a maxima into a race car with only that engine block

 

And other transmissinon and suspension upgrades

 

Hi !
I have some question about swap out internals from the VQ35 and VQ30.
If use the VQ35 crank, rods, and pistons, but the block would need to be bored 1.5-2.0 mm piston size is 95.5mm and how many mm for the stroke ? (81.4mm ??)
if the stroke is 81.4mm ,any possible piston will hit against head cylinder?
what should be careful ?

 

http://www.poweredbynissan.com/Engin...neSpecs.htm#VQ