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Old Apr 29, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Signs of a bad cylinder?

no, not signs of a bad cylinder head but signs of a bad master/slave cylinder....

Ever since i had my tranny rebuilt, even sometimes before that (and way before i had SC), its been hard to get into gears sometimes. You have to really JAM it in, and sometimes, actually most times i hear a bad click sound....i guess it feels as if the car doesnt think the clutch is down...?

anyway, i had a friendly mechanic drive the car or try to drive it and they say its the cylinder and to replace both cause the other dies soon after the other.

My question is, are these signs of a bad master/slave cylinder? And do u think its ok to get a rebuilt or used one from autozone? or does anyone know best place to get one? Jerry Rome nissan after discount will cost just under 100 for combination of both i think. But if its ok to get it cheaper and rebuilt i'll do that.

Once again, signs are:

- very hard clutch
- very hard to get into gears (downshifting and everything and ALL gears exactly the same)
- just very ugly shifting....

Also how easy is this to fix?
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:10 PM
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i had/have the same problems, it was the clutch itself, but i wouldnt rule out anything else in the clutch/trans line, as my whole tranny is dead now, its stuck in 3rd gear (the tranny is, the shifter isnt)

- master cylinder
- clutch release cylender - have someone press the pedal down and watch how much it moves
- look at the play in the pedal, try adjusting the rod on the pedal to give you more travel with the pedal
- maybe the trans itself, with my case thats obviously true... might be worn syncros that was making it shift like garbage - ill find out for sure come next month as the trans is getting rebuilt
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
no, not signs of a bad cylinder head but signs of a bad master/slave cylinder....

Ever since i had my tranny rebuilt, even sometimes before that (and way before i had SC), its been hard to get into gears sometimes. You have to really JAM it in, and sometimes, actually most times i hear a bad click sound....i guess it feels as if the car doesnt think the clutch is down...?

anyway, i had a friendly mechanic drive the car or try to drive it and they say its the cylinder and to replace both cause the other dies soon after the other.

My question is, are these signs of a bad master/slave cylinder? And do u think its ok to get a rebuilt or used one from autozone? or does anyone know best place to get one? Jerry Rome nissan after discount will cost just under 100 for combination of both i think. But if its ok to get it cheaper and rebuilt i'll do that.

Once again, signs are:

- very hard clutch
- very hard to get into gears (downshifting and everything and ALL gears exactly the same)
- just very ugly shifting....

Also how easy is this to fix?
Usually, when a clutch master cylinder and/or slave cylinder fail, the gears will grind when you try to shift out of neutral. I would not condemn those parts yet because your tranny may have something to do with your problem. Have somebody push in your clutch pedal with the engine off and look to see how much travel the slave cylinder linkage has. It it barely moves, that would mean that the clutch hydraulic circuit is worn. If it travels a considerable amount, it's probably something in the tranny wrong with it.
Old Apr 29, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by charliekilo3
Usually, when a clutch master cylinder and/or slave cylinder fail, the gears will grind when you try to shift out of neutral. I would not condemn those parts yet because your tranny may have something to do with your problem. Have somebody push in your clutch pedal with the engine off and look to see how much travel the slave cylinder linkage has. It it barely moves, that would mean that the clutch hydraulic circuit is worn. If it travels a considerable amount, it's probably something in the tranny wrong with it.
omg i just posted something and it disappeared. Anyway, i went back into the car 3 hours later and car drives fine for like 5-10 minutes then gives same problems again. Does this still look like a cylinder issue? if a cylinder is bad or going bad, can the shifting get better and worst constantly?
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 04:20 AM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
omg i just posted something and it disappeared. Anyway, i went back into the car 3 hours later and car drives fine for like 5-10 minutes then gives same problems again. Does this still look like a cylinder issue? if a cylinder is bad or going bad, can the shifting get better and worst constantly?
ha i had that problem too with the old clutch, it would drive great for a bit then start either slipping or be too hard to shift... go under the dash and look at the pedal adjustment rod
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:25 AM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
omg i just posted something and it disappeared. Anyway, i went back into the car 3 hours later and car drives fine for like 5-10 minutes then gives same problems again. Does this still look like a cylinder issue? if a cylinder is bad or going bad, can the shifting get better and worst constantly?
i had a similar problem when i had a five speed. clutch would sink to the floor and i couldn,t get it into gear. twice my slave cylinder went out.
i think i paid about 60 bucks for mine. i think mine was rebuilt im not sure. and if it is that it will get worse to the point when you can't go in gear. i had to put it in gear and start the car in 2nd to get it home.
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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i had a similar problem when i had a five speed. clutch would sink to the floor and i couldn,t get it into gear. twice my slave cylinder went out.
i think i paid about 60 bucks for mine. i think mine was rebuilt im not sure. and if it is that it will get worse to the point when you can't go in gear. i had to put it in gear and start the car in 2nd to get it home.
my friend had the same issue and it happened to be a cylinder. You know what i was also thinking too...i had a tranny leak for a good minute. It stopped but i never refilled the tranny fluid. It was a small leak but constant for weeks. Seen a very small puddle wherever i left the car for hours. Can low tranny fluid cause harsh shifting? Maybe it gets hot cuase of low fluid? Cause my shifting isnt always bad, just when car has been driven for a while. Sometimes when it hasnt but mostly when it has....
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by meccanoble
my friend had the same issue and it happened to be a cylinder. You know what i was also thinking too...i had a tranny leak for a good minute. It stopped but i never refilled the tranny fluid. It was a small leak but constant for weeks. Seen a very small puddle wherever i left the car for hours. Can low tranny fluid cause harsh shifting? Maybe it gets hot cuase of low fluid? Cause my shifting isnt always bad, just when car has been driven for a while. Sometimes when it hasnt but mostly when it has....
now that you bring up all leak i also had a similar problem. the seal that goes behind the flywheel i believe started leaking and it got on my clutch.that caused it not to work. but not having any gear oil is not a good thing if it runs dry something is bond to give. lets just pray that its as simple as a slave cylinder. i know people always ask me why i have a auto and these are some of the reason's. if its not the clutch its the throw out bearing or slave cylinder etc.
Old Apr 30, 2004 | 02:17 PM
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well good news...somewhat.

All day today the car has been driving great. Shifting has been fun and no problems what so ever. Its smoother than it has been all week. I'm bout to drive up to get some stuff, i wonder how long this is going to last. Thats why i wonder....if it messes up and gets good continously, is that still a cylinder problem? maybe i have air in my lines?
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