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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 11:17 AM
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Due out 2006 I think
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There is the WRC car.
Thats the closest Nissan will get to it.
Why build a car to get its a s s handed to it by a WRX?
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 11:26 AM
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Nissan could import a WRC car right now. I don't know if they still make this car but the Nissan Sunny GTi-R awd/sr20det/hatch would do very well. Correct size and correct engine.
http://www.dpmotorsport.com/about/re...otogo/home.htm

It's already available. Question is would Nissan get the ***** to import it. Mazda is already going to build a TT AWD sedan in 2005/6 300hp


Originally Posted by Drjmaxx88
S16
Due out 2006 I think
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There is the WRC car.
Thats the closest Nissan will get to it.
Why build a car to get its a s s handed to it by a WRX?
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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400 Hp

Nissan should get rid of the ugly new gen body.
Put the max on a diet. It needs to loose at least 500lbs.
Give us a AWD, add a 6-spd trany that has HLSD...
JDM...OEM...JIC... Bodykit...I live my life a quarter mile at time....


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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Drjmaxx88
400 Hp

Nissan should get rid of the ugly new gen body.
Put the max on a diet.
I tend to agree

It needs to loose at least 500lbs.
Give us a AWD,
Hard to lose weight and add and AWD transaxle at the same time.

add a 6-spd trany that has HLSD...
Maximas already have this
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:19 PM
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I got a few question. Why should the Maxima change anything? What cars are the Max in direct market competition with? You say that the introduction of the Altima SE-R is a threat to the Maxima? I doubt it. The Max is a large psuedo Lux/Sport Sedan and the SE-R is simply sporty. If you simply don't like the current gen that's another thing. To be honest with you I would not have bought my Max new when it came out. So all you who have a second hand Maxima complaining about what it has become are'nt giving it it's due. It's still what it has always been, a family sedan with a little luxury and alot of *****. I say restyle the nose and let it be. Maybe a special edition like the Titanium pkg or something. All the extras I hear you guys drooling over are on other Nissans. V8 Q45 or M45, RWD or AWD G35, and all of those have more power. Someone said they'd pay teh extra 10Gs well there you go. Go get an Infiniti.
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Apparently someone doesn't have a clue about engineering. GREAT, more money for me. Because obviously you won't be one to step up and design.

With technology today, they stick a V8 in a car that's no bigger than the Maxima. Kinda like the camry and Magnum. Those have V8 options.

Plus, move the V-8 back and down a little (helps any way with a AWD). And you lower the center of gravity, and have room for a new suspension design. And for 10k more, it will actually match the market.

So I only have one thing to say to you.....

I dunno about the V8. Of all the cars out there, not including SUV's or trucks, what is the main platform that consumers are buying? They are either I4 or V6's. Nissan could go with a V8 platform sedan...(which they already do with two Infinities)....but how many people will actually buy that. Remember the 3rd gen Taurus SHO? Those we're V8 equipped, but how many people actually bought one? I don't think it makes good marketing sense honestly. Now this isn't to say Nissan shouldn't make a V8 Maxima, but I don't think it's feasible as far as money maker for Nissan.

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Midknight MAXX
I got a few question. Why should the Maxima change anything? What cars are the Max in direct market competition with? You say that the introduction of the Altima SE-R is a threat to the Maxima? I doubt it. The Max is a large psuedo Lux/Sport Sedan and the SE-R is simply sporty. If you simply don't like the current gen that's another thing. To be honest with you I would not have bought my Max new when it came out. So all you who have a second hand Maxima complaining about what it has become are'nt giving it it's due. It's still what it has always been, a family sedan with a little luxury and alot of *****. I say restyle the nose and let it be. Maybe a special edition like the Titanium pkg or something. All the extras I hear you guys drooling over are on other Nissans. V8 Q45 or M45, RWD or AWD G35, and all of those have more power. Someone said they'd pay teh extra 10Gs well there you go. Go get an Infiniti.
Also to note from what I've read, the Altima SE-R isn't at all much different from a regular Altima. It's just another trim level it seems (correct me if I'm wrong). but I agree totally with Midknight MAXX. If the Maxima isn't suiting what you want, Nissan has plenty of other cars that can fit one specific niche if you think about it.

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 02:13 PM
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Jeff thats the point. The car already has alot of goodies. Why try to change it into something its not. If you don't like something about it, dont buy it. Or if you own it try to mod it, otherwise leave it be. This car has some sweet get up and go, and my car is an 88!
Now if you want a sportier car get a 240sx,spec-v.
Just try to resist the urge to put a neon under chassis light on it. I hate those things.
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Here's the reason me and my friends sat down and worked on this.

1. The body styling sucks on the latest Maxima. And I'm not all jumping for joy about Infiniti's either. And besides that, I WANT A MAXIMA. Not some infinti version.

2. Hmm lets see, Altima SE-R... 3.5L 6 speed. Different body style (same ugly grill). Little less weight.

Maxima SE.... 3.5L 6 speed. Ugly body style, little more weight. And some decent packages available.

Now for all basics, the same altima and maxima are almost the same. And the altima has been working it's way up toward the Maxima. Remember the altima being a I-4 family sport sedan. Ok they add a V-6, no problem, it could use the some more HP. OK, now they put in the 3.5L. Oh and now the altima is now a 1" shorter than the Maxima. Well, now the SE-R is coming out. So it has the same tranny and engine as the Maxima. Hmm, make it a little wider, and what do you got. A Maxima on a different suspension.

I for one love my Maxima. Nothing sounds sweeter to me than saying it.

All these upgrades to the Altima, and what so far for the Maxima. A Navigation system. I'd hate to see a history and performance lost.

Oh, and I'm not saying change it all to a V8 and AWD. I'm saying come up with another model, offering such a package. And I'll spend the extra 10k, FOR A MAXIMA! Nothing against the infiniti name.

And as for the market that it's going in. Go out and find vehicles that offer a sport edition of a V8. And see how much they cost.
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You would pay north of $42,000 for a maxima? Not me.

Don't see what you have against Infiniti since it's the same company.

Also when you buy Infiniti, you are purchasing vastly superior customer service.

Go ahead and love your maxima all you want. Fine. But just remember it ain't the best thing out there. Just another sedan with a nice engine.
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 05:35 PM
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I would buy 3 pimped out cars for that much.

5.0 Mustang
240sx
TTZ

Old Jul 27, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kcidmil
Besides, if the US skyline looks like the one in the link. It would be easier just to go buy a Infinti, and switch out the emblems.

But the nissan burger sign is worth it.
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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But the nissan burger sign is worth it.
Lol, well I guess this thread is done. I've gotten all the opinions that dealt with the original post.

The usual thread drifters have come in and started making a rucus. Oh and north of 42k, it matches up there with BMW, Volvo, and Mercedes. And the cheapest BMW with a V8 is 55k. There's the market that Nissan would enter.

Now I take a bow. Thank those that contributed there opinions on what could come with a new maxima. And take my leave to go back and help those with 3rd gens.

Oh and btw, I forwarded the link to the Nissan's research and design section.(which I can already hear a response to this one) "Well it doesn't mean they'll actually come take a look at it." And my response, I DON'T CARE. There's nothing worse than thread drifters who pile on replys that aren't helping!
Old Jul 27, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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But Nissan is in that market...it's just badged as an infiniti...which is practically the same company. The problem is that type of market is dominated usually by the german 3 (BMW, Audi, Mercedes) and Lexus. Volvo has jumped in this market, and they have a great car to compete (S80, S80T6...awesome car....I own a 97 960, it's a great car). Problem is they don't come close to the number the German 3 have in sales. Even Infiniti sales in this group isn't really all that impressive either. If Nissan we're to go in under the namesake, my guess is the car will flounder....it's doable, but Nissan will probably pull the cord after a little bit. The problem is, you can have these great ideas (and that's awesome), but the question is, will it sell? You might think yes....but it better be one helluva car for it to sell....it even might have to a trend type of car too.

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Old Jul 27, 2004 | 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You would pay north of $42,000 for a maxima? Not me.

Don't see what you have against Infiniti since it's the same company.

Also when you buy Infiniti, you are purchasing vastly superior customer service.

Go ahead and love your maxima all you want. Fine. But just remember it ain't the best thing out there. Just another sedan with a nice engine.
Yeah, Jeff is right on, there. I have a Nissan and an Infiniti and I honestly don't differentiate between the two, except when I call the Infiniti dealer, the guy kisses my butt and when I call then Nissan dealer, I get put on hold for 20 minutes only for the guy to tell me that he has never heard of a part that I have sitting in my hand out of my Maxima.

When I started replying in this thread, I was hoping to see thoughts on something totally new to spark the US tuner market a little more than the Sentra Spec-V currently does. I think the Maxima and Altima are too big to be sporty anymore. Even if test numbers prove otherwise, they look too big and it seems to me like a new model would be more exciting than trying to fix what they screwed up on the current models. Back in the late 80s through mid 90s, Nissan owned the market on cool import cars, IMO. SE-R for FWD 4-banger, 240sx for RWD 4-banger, Maxima for 6-cylinder FWD. I feel they are better than the Civic, Prelude, Accord, Celica, Camry, etc. of the same era.

I love the G35 and 350z, but they are pretty spendy and I would like to see a car better than the Spec-V (and more aggressive looking, too) in the $20k range. The car Jeff pointed out was nice (especially the 400 hp), but looked a lot like a GTI.

Anyway, this thread has been fun, but really got out of hand.
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Midknight MAXX
I got a few question. Why should the Maxima change anything? What cars are the Max in direct market competition with? You say that the introduction of the Altima SE-R is a threat to the Maxima? I doubt it. The Max is a large psuedo Lux/Sport Sedan and the SE-R is simply sporty. If you simply don't like the current gen that's another thing. To be honest with you I would not have bought my Max new when it came out. So all you who have a second hand Maxima complaining about what it has become are'nt giving it it's due. It's still what it has always been, a family sedan with a little luxury and alot of *****. I say restyle the nose and let it be. Maybe a special edition like the Titanium pkg or something. All the extras I hear you guys drooling over are on other Nissans. V8 Q45 or M45, RWD or AWD G35, and all of those have more power. Someone said they'd pay teh extra 10Gs well there you go. Go get an Infiniti.

Finally, someone has said it!
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You would pay north of $42,000 for a maxima? Not me.

Don't see what you have against Infiniti since it's the same company.

Also when you buy Infiniti, you are purchasing vastly superior customer service.

Go ahead and love your maxima all you want. Fine. But just remember it ain't the best thing out there. Just another sedan with a nice engine.


$42k for a Maxima when people are already starting to complain about the MSRP of the top-of-the-line Maxima.
For that much $$$ I'll be looking at this car

Once again,

Maybe you can get Nissan to build a car just for you. As for sales, who needs sales?
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 07:46 AM
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Drifters?
Most of us are established members.

If you can't handle a little criticism then don't post Or do you listen only to what you like to hear?
Old Jul 28, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by kcidmil
Oh, and I'm not saying change it all to a V8 and AWD. I'm saying come up with another model, offering such a package. And I'll spend the extra 10k, FOR A MAXIMA! Nothing against the infiniti name.

And as for the market that it's going in. Go out and find vehicles that offer a sport edition of a V8. And see how much they cost.
Problem is you would be the only one buying one. Why do you think the Japanese and American car manufactures developed alternate brands. The American sentiment towards brands. For example: Chevy/Cadillac, Honda/Acura, Ford/Mercury, Toyota/Lexus, Nissan/Infinti, Dodge/Chrysler, I think you get the picture. Not many will spend $50K on a Nissan, but throw an infiniti badge on it and watch them run. So no, what your suggesting won't happen. It's not Nissans fault, blame the market. Name another car that stands out amongst it's brand mates besides the Corvette and the Ford GT (both sports cars). I agree with you slightly that the Maxima does'nt seem to have a place now. But you suggest upscaling a model to compete with high end Bimmers, Jags, MBs, you can't be serious. If I had money to burn like that the Nissan dealership is the last place I'd go. I would take a gander at a M45 though.
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IMO....i would rather have a 3.5 v6 thana 4.5 v8


I have no problem with the current maximas engine, just the looks.
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