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Old Apr 3, 2001 | 06:33 PM
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I dont know if it's my head messin with me, but I think my tranny's not as smooth after I did couple of neutral drops. I'm talkin about when you're sitting at a stop light with the gear in D. Before, it was absolutely vibration-less, but it feels like it's not the same as before now. I can only feel that through the accelerator pedal. The car is as still as a dead one when I'm sitting on the passenger side. It still is very good, but I love my car so I'm kind of paranoid. I have a cousin who has a E320 and that car sucks. The engine is not as smooth as a Maxima and when you're sitting at a stoplight, the car vibrates a lot.

Do you think it's the engine, not the tranny? Maybe I need to use a bottle of Chevron Techron again.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 06:47 PM
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ummmm...neutral drops are very very bad......
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 06:48 PM
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if you want to prematurely burn off every clutch plate and planetary gear, go for it bro. I'd have more fun wasting $2000 at Atlantic City and a strip club or two than burning up a transmission.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 06:54 PM
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it's bad... it really is.

I mean... it's bad.

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Old Apr 3, 2001 | 07:19 PM
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what about 1100-1200rpm netural drops. I did a couple of those by accident I shift the car into D and the car revs to 1100-1200rpm not moving then all of a sudden it will slap 1st gear in and the car will jerk a little. Sometimes I get that shifting delay for like 1 to 2 seconds anyway to fix it or is every max like this and I have to do things slower?
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 07:39 PM
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i think someone is still in the april fools mood, cuz you can't be serious.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 07:45 PM
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Originally posted by gtr_rider
i think someone is still in the april fools mood, cuz you can't be serious.
me? I'm dead serious it keeps happening to me. Half the time I drive my minivan and there is no delay shifting to D so I got used to shifting to D and start going instancly and endedup netural dropping the maxima
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 08:20 PM
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no not you i'm talking to the wierdo who started this post.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 08:31 PM
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You yo-yo's must think cars are bullet proof. This is at least the third post that has gone like "I do nuetral drops, and my car drives like poop. What's causing this? Gimme a ****ing break.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by gtr_rider
no not you i'm talking to the wierdo who started this post.
so will my tanny go bye bye or maybe shorten its life by 1/2 after like 5 1200rpm netural drop?
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by hokiemax
I dont know if it's my head messin with me, but I think my tranny's not as smooth after I did couple of neutral drops. I'm talkin about when you're sitting at a stop light with the gear in D. Before, it was absolutely vibration-less, but it feels like it's not the same as before now. I can only feel that through the accelerator pedal. The car is as still as a dead one when I'm sitting on the passenger side. It still is very good, but I love my car so I'm kind of paranoid.
If you love your car, why do you do neutral drops ?

/aac
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 08:48 PM
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Not as bad as if you were dropping it....

at above 2K like some others have, but none the less I don't see it helping n EXTENDING the life either!

Originally posted by costcowholesale


so will my tanny go bye bye or maybe shorten its life by 1/2 after like 5 1200rpm netural drop?
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 08:56 PM
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Re: Not as bad as if you were dropping it....

Originally posted by DA-MAX
at above 2K like some others have, but none the less I don't see it helping n EXTENDING the life either!

thats ok my maxima will be going away soon. earliest this summer latest next summer
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 09:22 PM
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Make sure

Make sure that you tell the next owner that you do neutral drops!
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 09:42 PM
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this has to be the funniest thing I've read since the New Year. Things like this make you not want to buy another automatic cuz you never know the rocket scientist who owned it before you......unless you buy new......he he he
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 09:55 PM
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I use to do bomb drops hehe

Back when I was 16 {20 now} I drove around a 86 Volvo 240 wagon. Anyways I got my liscence on October 23rd and was so excited, so I thought I was hot **** and reved my engine up to about 6k RPM's and just jamed it into nuetral muhahaha. Anyways on October 31st {8 days after getting my liscence} I was chillin in front of my friends house and I say watch this! I reved that bad boy up to 6K rpms again and the car does this big *** burn out and just stopes! I am like what the ****? You guessed it the tranny died! It only took 2 bomb drops. BTW my dad bought the car brand new in 1986 and put 160K truble free miles, I drove the car for about 50 miles and destroyed the transmission hehe.Still to this my dad is like what the hell did you do to it son? I say I just stoped and pressed on the gas and it broke. Any how we had a spair tranny in my back yard from my other volvo 240 which my brother convienently totaled haha,so my dad just swapped the tranny no problems. So to answers your ?? Hokiemax it a bad idea. Hopefully you have not damaged your tranny to much,if you want to make it up to it get a tranny cooler and maybe,just maybe it will last as long as it would have.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 10:02 PM
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My girlfriend did the same thing

She did that neutral dropping for about 2 years now and she's finally stopped. She was convinced that it improves you mileage and is better for your brakes. I argued and told her that her idle is lower in D than in N. Further, the brakes aren't being worn down because there is no static friction when you are stopped. She did this ever since she got her license, because her brother did it a lot in his integra as he drove her around a lot. He used to do it because he really wanted a manual and he felt so much closer to a manual by doing that. Both of the transmissions of their 95 Integra and 91 Accord suck big time. They are the roughest shifting cars I've ever sat in. Keep your jaw locked or you might bite your tongue when it shifts. Sure you many say they ruined their cars and money, but they both got their cars for under $4K total. Both cars were lightly rear-ended and they spent about another $4K on the repairs, paint, and extras.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 11:44 PM
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hey, you said you did 5 small neutral drops? weren't you the dude trying to sell your max for 55 k canadian? you funnny man you! i am no longer go to reply to this post for i have just lost 20 brain cells reading this thread.
Old Apr 3, 2001 | 11:55 PM
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ok ok, I am a moron.

My common sense went blank and I did a neutral drop. Just tell me what I wanna know, which is

What kind of damage have been done, if there was any?

If there was any damage at all, is it gonna get worse or stay the same?

What I did was stupid, but I think it was reasonable. When you normally put the gear to D, that iself can be considered a neutral drop too, but it's ok since the rpm was only around 700. You can drop it into D at a progressive higher RPM until you reach a threshold, at which point if you go over that, it's not good for the tranny. 5,6000 is obviously over the threshold point, but I thought 3000 was pretty safe, and that's why I did it.
If that offends anybody, I'm sorry.
Old Apr 4, 2001 | 07:06 AM
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I did several neutral drops in my former Max at around 4,000. And I regularly downshifted to second on the freeway, took off in first and shifted up as I bounced off the redline, and brake-torqued it countless times. I had 133,000+ miles trouble-free. Guess I'm a moron, too.

Now I have a 5-speed.
Old Apr 4, 2001 | 08:29 AM
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anybody else wondering what a neutral drop is?
Old Apr 4, 2001 | 08:41 AM
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neutral drop?

can someone tell me what a neutral drop is???
i ve never heard of it before and i want to know about it so i wont do it to my family's cars...
is it only for automatic cars?
Old Apr 4, 2001 | 09:25 AM
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Some of these "defenses" are irrelavent... like shifting my N to D normally is a neutral drop.. No it's not. your engine rpm is less than 1000 when you do that. Shifting into gear when you have it rev'd to 3000 is not exactly the same. It's like dumping the clutch on a 5 speed at 750rpm vs 3000. One stalls, one burns clutch.... *not* the same.

I am sure when you did your drop, you heard and felt a nice clunck. That's your car telling you you are hurting it. That is not a normal sound and the tranny *was not* designed to take that kind of abuse.

Those wondering what a neutral drop is: put your car in neutral... rev and hold rpm at say 3000 and put car into drive.

Not a good thing to do.

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Old Apr 4, 2001 | 12:54 PM
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geez you guys are rough. Not everyone knows what a neutral drop is nor do they know what kind of long term damage that it can do. No need to get in to name calling. YOU guys don't know it all, either, so don't expect others to know everything, too.

When you're in neutral, the clutch & band are disengaged. When you engage D (or 1st gear), the forward clutch is engaged and the front planetary unit ring gear is locked to the input shaft. When you do a neutral drop (say.. 3000 rpm or higher), you're placing more load/strain on to the front planetary gear, shortening the life. Long term, it can get to the point where you'll lose first gear all together. Short term, don't sweat it. Just try not to do it again.
Old Apr 4, 2001 | 12:59 PM
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