RussMaxManiac

I had a car load of people, 4 total, driving up to Austin when this White 5spd. GT Mustang keeps trying to play around with me. I was like nah didn't want to play right now especially with 4 people in my car. But then everyone in the car started egging me on! I was like fine. So I lined up with him, going about 60~ mph, in 3rd gear hitting it and he would not hit it, so when i let off he hits it, kept going back and forth. Finally when we got a good clearing, all of a sudden he hit it, and I was like crap and shifted to 3rd again and floored it. He already had 1 1/2 cars on me from his head start. By 110 I passed him slowly and he let off. And he was defintely on it!

Stangs can't hang with the max obviously!

Frank Fontaine

It'd be my guess that a Mustang would hang 0-60 and pick it up at the 1/4 mile and beyond. Not everyone enjoys racing beyond 110 mph. First, the legal consequences are not too cool, 2nd, the results of an accident can be serious.

BTW you've got really great friends, they really trust you. If you check the "manly" top 5 cars Mustang is on it (seriously). I don't have anything against them, wouldn't mind checking out the Cobra.

max2kgle526

Yeah Russ,
Come on, I remember a year and a half ago, on the origninal forum, when I asked for pics of your 2K SE, you got me that pic of your speedo maxing out. Dont kill your self.

RussMaxManiac

I didn't say beyond. At 110 we shut it down. We started around 60.

QUANSUNG

i walked away from a 98 or 99 gt after 120mph but before that he had about 2 cars on me ,got to love that low end power.

BriGuyMax

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Stangs.....Even the late model cobras...got almost nothing up top.......all they have is the low end punch...now drop 500 bucks into a 5.0..or 4.6 for that matter...and they can spank almost any maxima out there.

Ants97SE

So was Austin any good? I woulda gone but I was feeling too sick to go.

De Max

Hey Russ, it was cool meeting you at Circuit City and I hope more Maxima's come out Saturday nights. There was a big show of cars this Sat. at Circuit City. Similiar to you, I raced this porsche on 183 and was about 2 car lengths ahead when we hit 110mph.
De Max

RussMaxManiac

You too man.....maybe more Maximas will show. The new climax did show up eventually. lol

SCCA Solo2

Big difference between 98 and 99 mustangs...

98 is noticably slower. and I mean, noticably. You'd be very lucky to find a 96-98 mustang GT to hit 14s, stock. 99-01 will click 14s off with somewhat ease.

5g Maxima 5spd will eat a 98 mustang gt.
4g Maxima 5spd will eat a 98 mustang gt.
3g Maxima 5spd will beat a 98 mustang gt.

5/4g Maxima 5 spd will have a hard time beating a 99 gt
3g Maxima 5spd...probably won't beat a 99 gt.

lyonsd

If you're talking about AODs, then you'd be correct. But 5-speed non-convertibles can easily hit 14s.


Again, if you're talking about a '99 non-convertible with a 5-speed, unless the 5/4g Max can run mid-13s, it will have a hard time beating such a Mustang.

Good drivers have been known to coax some high 13-second quarter miles out of '99 and up GTs. Which isn't surprising given that their trap speeds are 99-100mph.

Dave B

I actually raced a 99GT AOD (stock) 3 times a few weeks ago. Two races were from a stop and one was from a roll. The first race from a stop was him by a few feet 80mph. Second race was from a roll at 40mph to 90mph (complete tie). The final stoplight race was me out launching him by a car and he finally over-took me at 95mph.

I saw him again at the track where he was running consistent 14.6s@96mph with 2.1 60 foots. He came over whne he noticed my car and was a bit amazed that a V6 sedan was running damn close to what his 4.6 was doing (14.5s vs 14.7s).


Dave

lyonsd

If I were him I wouldn't so much amazed by your V6 sedan running those time as I would be fed-up with my own car (or driving ability) for showing such ****-poor performance.

RussMaxManiac

Doubt that, haven't seen one stock hit 14s yet. I saw a supercharged one hit 14.4 and got beat by don

lyonsd

Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it hasn't happened.

14.4 for a supercharged '99 GT? Now that is a sorry-*** excuse for a driver and/or car. I ran 14.4 in a bone-stock '88 5.0 Mustang with worn rubber and lifting my foot to avoid a breakout. And the '99 GTs are faster than the '88 GTs.

I've never seen a stock Maxima break into the 14s. Does that mean it's impossible?

Fact is, the '99 non-convertible 5-speeds are capable of running sub 14.0-second quarter-mile ETs. A number of people have done it. Just like a number of people in Maximas have broken into the 14s.

RussMaxManiac

Lyon the year stand on topic is between 96-98 not the new ones. Please get it right.

lyonsd

But the focus had shifted to '99s and up. Please get it right.

Dave B

LyonSD-

I think his stock GT AOD was running pretty good for our track. I do have video of silver GT AOD with pullies, intake, and exhaust clicking off 14.3s@97mph. I've also seen plenty of 5 speed 99+ GTs ripping low 14s near 100mph. I completely agree, in the right hands and on a good surface, a 99+ GT 5 speed can run in the upper 13s.

I see you are experienced with the 5.0 too. I spent much time driving my buddies 90 LX 5.0 notch. The only mods were advanced timing, 3.73s, and a exhaust. The car was stout as hell and I was able to coax a 13.9@98mph out of it under some good conditions. That car had ***** on the lowend, but couldn't hold a candle to my 94 Z28 A4 after 70mph

I'm in love with that new gunmetal/metalic sand colored 2001 GT with the anthracite 17s. It's really hard for me to decide between that or new WRX. The WRX has the potential to run well into the 13s, but the Stang has the potential to get 12s relatively easier. Sure, the LS1 F-Body is much quicker, but I know how the build quality is (owned one for 3 years). The Bullit is a bad *** looking machine, but it's too bad Ford screwed up again and messed up with the motor (ie not making the power advertized ala the 1999 Cobra fiasco). I'm thinking I could pick up a used GT (that awesome color), pull the wing off, lower it, add pullie, X-pipe, intake, MAF, 3.73s, and I should have my own Bullit


Dave

RussMaxManiac

Where did the Focus get into the topic?! Man u lost it?

bill99gxe

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The thread started discussing the 99+GTs and their capabilities........

Thus, the focus of the thread was concentrating on 99 and up 'stangs instead of the shameful (my opinion) 96 to 98 GTs...

lyonsd

Now please, Russ2kSE, try to keep up!

Yeah, the '96-'98 GTs are indeed dogs. (Notice the shift in topic again ).

I'm going to go over to the Corral to see how many people (if any) have gotten into the 14s in theirs bone stock.

http://www.mustangworks.com/msgboard...ML/004011.html

http://www.corral.net/Forums/Forum10/HTML/026433.html

http://forums.stangnet.com/showthrea...threadid=40932

RussMaxManiac

Wrong, I started the thread, and as you can see by the subject, if you read, it was started with 96-98 stangs only. Geez guys.

bill99gxe

iTrader: (1)

what the word "started" means, and to not understand what the word "focus" means is quite laughable.

I admit "started" was a bit out of context.....but geez.

How about this?

"The thread "branched" into a discussion of the 99+ GT capabilities......"

Does that satisfy you, oh master of the English language?

lyonsd

But not every post has to conform to the Subject of the Original post. What are you, the Topic-****?

The main topic within a thread can change. And it did. Just as it has now changed to this petty bickering over what we were talking about.

Dave B

I'm not a big fan of the 96-98 GT, but I do know that there are plenty of guys that hit 14s with them bonestock. You don't have to be John Force to drive a stock one into the 14s. You just have understand the powerbands. It is MUCH easier to hit 14s with a stock 96-98 GT than it is for a 4th/5th gen Max. RWD launch makes all the difference in the world.


Dave

1bad50

I took my fathers 2000 gt automatic with nothing more than a k&n to a 14.1@99mph. this was on stock 17 inch radials ,letting the tranny shift it self.

Before I catch hell for driving "daddy's" car, i want to add my personal car is a '90 GT that goes 12.4@110 on the motor, and 11.3@119 on the spray

1bad50

My first 5 speed car was a '96 GT, that was beat to **** with 77,000 miles on it in 1998. The car went 14.8 on the first run , which was my first time at the track, and 3 weeks into learning to drive a stick. on the following run it went 14.78, then the final run was a 14.699.

I consider my self a pretty good driver, and don't want to take any glory away from the maximas, it is pretty cool that one can purchase a 4 door family car off the showrom floor and go 14's box stock. That is the allure of the m5, i know i want one.

Mr. Rose

96-98 GT
Road & Track April 1996 tested a 1996 GT with power options, MACH 460 and cloth......

0-60 = 6.8
1/4 = 15.3 @89.0mph
1st = 48mph
2nd = 82mph
3rd = 120mph
4th = 140mph
5th = 140mph @3560 limited rpms

the car weighed as tested 3580lbs
210bhp @4400
285tq @3500

0-30 = 2.2
0-40 = 3.4
0-50 = 5.3
0-60 = 6.8
0-70 = 9.0
0-80 = 12.3
0-90 = 15.6

2000 SE 5spd MAXIMA
Road & Track JUNE 1999
Se 5spd laoded with leather and 16" wheels

0-60 = 7.0
1/4 = 15.4 @93.6mph
1st = 38mph
2nd = 67mph
3rd = 98mph
4th = 131mph
5th = 131mph @5450rpms

the car weighs as tested 3460lbs
222bhp @6400
217tq @4000

0-30 = 2.6
0-40 = 3.9
0-50 = 5.4
0-60 = 7.0
0-70 = 9.1
0-80 = 11.7
0-90 = 14.4
0-100 = 18.4

AS yo ucan see the maxima is 1.2 seconds faster to 90mph than the 96-98 GT.

NOW food for thought.....
99+ GT 5spd
Motor Trend DEcember 1999 loaded with leather 17" wheels.....

0-60 = 5.4
1/4 = 14.0 @100.2mph

the car weighs 3442lbs
260hp @5250
302tq @4000

0-30 = 2.0
0-40 = 3.1
0-50 = 4.1
0-60 = 5.4
0-70 = 7.0
0-80 = 9.0
0-90 = 11.2
0-100 = 14.1

Here the 99+ GT is 3.2seconds faster to 100mph than the 2000 MAXIMA se 5spd.

Now this would be the stock for stock race. I like to see a 2000+ se 5spd take down a new 99+ GT.