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Old Apr 16, 2001 | 07:43 PM
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Is it worth it? I need top end power. does it help out on the top end?
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 08:09 PM
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Is it worth it? I need top end power. does it help out on the top end?
i think you notice the gain more at low rpms.
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 08:13 PM
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personally i can't justify 1hp for $150

but then people have done worse..

2hp $175 (RT CAT)
3hp $500 (Catback)
7hp $800 (ECU)


but we all seem to like building our mods list with BS so why not.. lets add another one to that growing list
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 10:28 PM
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I have dynoed and track tested few mods.

The UDP is really only worth 1-2hp at the most on an NA auto.
The same goes for the RT cat and catback.
The best bang for the bucks so far is CAI, Y-pipe and the test pipe.

Originally posted by SprintMax
personally i can't justify 1hp for $150

but then people have done worse..

2hp $175 (RT CAT)
3hp $500 (Catback)
7hp $800 (ECU)


but we all seem to like building our mods list with BS so why not.. lets add another one to that growing list
Old Apr 16, 2001 | 10:38 PM
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Do you guys actually have the UDP (Sprintmax)?

Sure the power gain isn't much, but it's still a good mod to do. The engine revs faster consistently throughout the powerband and coasting in gear (engine braking) kicks in faster when you let up on the gas. Off the line, I thought the improvements would be better. My friend with a Ford Probe had phenomenal gains on his car. I don't regret doing this mod. I think the majority of the people don't regret it. But to answer your question, I don't think you'll gain anything on the top end. I would only think it would free up 1 or 2 HPs at best, but it should raise the whole function throughout the dyno graph.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 05:57 AM
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muwhahahhahahahahahha test pipe !!!!! look out !
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 08:37 AM
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That's all they're worth on a Max? Other Nissans gain 10-18 hp to the wheels with the lighter pulleys.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 09:18 AM
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Re: Do you guys actually have the UDP (Sprintmax)?

Like i said.. I just can't justify spending that amount of money for 1hp.. and like i said before .. others have done worse... Ignition, ECU, catback, pulley..

Look at it this way..

Pulley - $175 (2 hp)
HKS/Venom Ignition - $200/$400 (0 hp)
ECU - $800 (7 hp)
Catback - $500 (3 hp)
RT Cat - $200 (1 hp)

Thats over $2000 for 13hp? i don't know about you.. but i would rather buy a 60 shot NOS kit for $375 and get 60 hp or save up $1300 more and buy a Supercharger and gain up to 70 hp more..

Some people like to waste their money.. I for one am not one of them... Thank you and good night


Originally posted by Kevin Wong
Sure the power gain isn't much, but it's still a good mod to do. The engine revs faster consistently throughout the powerband and coasting in gear (engine braking) kicks in faster when you let up on the gas. Off the line, I thought the improvements would be better. My friend with a Ford Probe had phenomenal gains on his car. I don't regret doing this mod. I think the majority of the people don't regret it. But to answer your question, I don't think you'll gain anything on the top end. I would only think it would free up 1 or 2 HPs at best, but it should raise the whole function throughout the dyno graph.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Stillnmax
muwhahahhahahahahahha test pipe !!!!! look out !
buwhahahaha.. watch out now
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 11:17 AM
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Well, I like to do mods that have good returns. The pulley for me is good for racing/spirited driving, as well as everyday driving. It's there no matter how you drive. I've never been comfortable with NOS and I'd probably only use it on the track. The pulley gives you gains from the beginning to the end of your powerband. I guess SprintMax was address your question by you asking for top end power. However, he does not regret getting the mod, as he does not have it. I do see your point SprintMax and I agree with you. If the pulley was not as expensive and had a higher return of horsepower as well as torque, it would be a great mod. I don't think it's a bad mod to do though.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 11:19 AM
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Old Apr 17, 2001 | 11:54 AM
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Good point
isn't it true that 5 speeds respond better to most mods?
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 02:25 PM
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Re: Re: Do you guys actually have the UDP (Sprintmax)?

Originally posted by SprintMax
Like i said.. I just can't justify spending that amount of money for 1hp.. and like i said before .. others have done worse... Ignition, ECU, catback, pulley..

Look at it this way..

Pulley - $175 (2 hp)
HKS/Venom Ignition - $200/$400 (0 hp)
ECU - $800 (7 hp)
Catback - $500 (3 hp)
RT Cat - $200 (1 hp)

Thats over $2000 for 13hp? i don't know about you.. but i would rather buy a 60 shot NOS kit for $375 and get 60 hp or save up $1300 more and buy a Supercharger and gain up to 70 hp more..

Some people like to waste their money.. I for one am not one of them... Thank you and good night


yeah but lets say you roll up against another max who has those mods and your bottle is not full or your SC is in the mail, he will wax you. 13 hp makes a differance no matter how much you pay for it.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 03:22 PM
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Good Point

Old Apr 17, 2001 | 04:47 PM
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oh yah?

wanna bet?

ask Confused about that

not to diss my buddy brett but.. his car has all those mods plus my mods and i run .2 secs better.. so .. what do you have to say now...

no heart feelings brett.. i just had to make an example

Originally posted by nismo2020

yeah but lets say you roll up against another max who has those mods and your bottle is not full or your SC is in the mail, he will wax you. 13 hp makes a differance no matter how much you pay for it.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 05:12 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you guys actually have the UDP (Sprintmax)?

no heart feelings brett.. i just had to make an example


None taken but to counterpoint your arguement, I have a handful of .2 sec less times not to say the udp is worth $h*t, not my arguement.

If your really curious i'll sell my used one in a few weeks.
Make your own assessment for less.

1 mo time SMax,,, nice run bro.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 05:17 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you guys actually have the UDP (Sprintmax)?

well why don't you join Synki and myself to the dark side?

http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=49791

Originally posted by Confused
no heart feelings brett.. i just had to make an example


None taken but to counterpoint your arguement, I have a handful of .2 sec less times not to say the udp is worth $h*t, not my arguement.

If your really curious i'll sell my used one in a few weeks.
Make your own assessment for less.

1 mo time SMax,,, nice run bro.
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 05:31 PM
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lets do the math

If you do $3000 divided by the 70 hp that you get out of a supercharger, that comes to $43 per 1 horsepower gain. So technically the supercharger is the biggest "bang for your buck" mod.

everyone save up,
PJ
Old Apr 17, 2001 | 05:37 PM
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Re: lets do the math

how about 100 hp for $380?

Originally posted by speednsound007
If you do $3000 divided by the 70 hp that you get out of a supercharger, that comes to $43 per 1 horsepower gain. So technically the supercharger is the biggest "bang for your buck" mod.

everyone save up,
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Old Apr 18, 2001 | 05:41 AM
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Re: Re: lets do the math

Originally posted by SprintMax
how about 100 hp for $380?

where are you going to get 100 hp for 380$ nos ? so you mean to tell me you are going to run a 100 shot of nitrous with no fuel system upgrades? and as far as you running faster 1/4 miles times than your friend. that sounds all good but, the questions is do you or do you not have the "weak horsepower bolt ons" ?
Old Apr 18, 2001 | 05:49 AM
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I only have 2 bolt-on's .. the two that i think matter for a maxima.. CAI and Y-Pipe

Originally posted by nismo2020

where are you going to get 100 hp for 380$ nos ? so you mean to tell me you are going to run a 100 shot of nitrous with no fuel system upgrades? and as far as you running faster 1/4 miles times than your friend. that sounds all good but, the questions is do you or do you not have the "weak horsepower bolt ons" ?
Old Apr 18, 2001 | 06:58 AM
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the supercharger is over $4000...

i have a question about that NOS kit... I am interested in NOS too... does that kit automatically put itself on like when u go WOT? u just arm it and then it sprays itself? and then shuts off after like 8-10 seconds of us? then another question... why does it say not to use on supercharged cars? I do not have one yet but i was thinking about the future and I think I am going to get one... and I will probably be running both... Which kit is ok to use with Supercharger and NOS together?

Where do I get the tank filled in NYC area?
and how much does it cost to fill the tank?
and for how long does each tank last?

thanks
-danny
Old Apr 18, 2001 | 07:13 AM
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well the S/C kit for the 95 - 99 is $3390

NOS questions - http://vbxmaxima.8m.com/nitro2.html

tank refills are usually $3.50 per lb .. thats about $35 a fill up..

they say don't use them together because most stock engines can't handle that power.. but as we know.. Some people here have done it.. and Supra's have done it too.. so its possible.. but with engine work if yoru engine is not built for that power


Originally posted by psing23
the supercharger is over $4000...

i have a question about that NOS kit... I am interested in NOS too... does that kit automatically put itself on like when u go WOT? u just arm it and then it sprays itself? and then shuts off after like 8-10 seconds of us? then another question... why does it say not to use on supercharged cars? I do not have one yet but i was thinking about the future and I think I am going to get one... and I will probably be running both... Which kit is ok to use with Supercharger and NOS together?

Where do I get the tank filled in NYC area?
and how much does it cost to fill the tank?
and for how long does each tank last?

thanks
-danny
Old Apr 18, 2001 | 06:50 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: lets do the math

Originally posted by SprintMax
well the S/C kit for the 95 - 99 is $3390
The V1 is no longer available for the 4th gen - all SCs are now V2.. so it's higher in price.
Old Apr 18, 2001 | 08:01 PM
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Thats the price Adam has been selling v2 superchargers for 95 - 99 for...

Originally posted by got rice?


The V1 is no longer available for the 4th gen - all SCs are now V2.. so it's higher in price.
Old Apr 18, 2001 | 09:22 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Do you guys actually have the UDP (Sprintmax)?

Originally posted by SprintMax
well why don't you join Synki and myself to the dark side?

http://www.jcwhitney.com/item.jhtml?ITEMID=49791

Don't forget about me, i will be on the darkside by MAXUS, i have a race with emax planned. And yes i'm getting a fuel pump to go with my 100 shot kit and an Apexi S-AFC.
Old Apr 18, 2001 | 09:31 PM
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hey.. will the UDP effect A/C Radio, ect??? i need low end torque.. besides UDP.. neideas??
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