Ok, I don't lie, I have no reason to. I almost didn't post this. On Friday night I was coming home from my g/f's and I saw a red dual exhaust convertible mustang blow through an intersection I was sitting at. My light turned and I went. We met up at the next light and the road narrows up ahead, it turned out there was a chick driving. The light turns and we pull up maybe 6 inches and I hear her tires start to break loose so I hit it. By the end of 2nd gear her front bumper was at my rear. Then she has to fall behind cause the road goes to one lane. She pulls into oncoming and passes me. We come to another light and I stick me head out the window and yeall "That's why you got beat by a 4 door family sedan" and "**** SVT." She of course had a few things to say. So at the next light I get out and run up to her car and I say sorry and give her props for her car which I saw was a 5 speed. I try to get her to pull over so we can talk but she had to go. Now, her car was a drop top, but it had SVT badges, but the bumper didn't say Cobra, but it was a fast mother****er. What do you all think. I beat a girl not a Cobra. She was a driving ***** tho.

 

I don't know if it was a Cobra. I think even the most heavily modded Max would have a hard time beating one of them. Most likely is was a riced out V6 Mustang. But good work none-the-less, did you get her number?

 

If it did not say Cobra on the bumper it was NOT a cobra. Had it been a Cobra you would have been laughed at by a women. Even if it was a 4.6 liter GT you probably would not have pulled on her off the line so much. Maybe a little if you were lucky. But I would have to agree with MAtt on this one. You encountered a badged up six.

 

But good kill.

 

I usually look on the side of the fender wall behind the front tire.. for ither a snake, a horse or a GT sign

 

Well I beat a Saleen in my old Pontiac Parisienne. You can beat anything if the driver is incompetent.

 

Okay it was not a V6. I say the duals, I heard the V8. It was at least a V8. Whether or not it was a Cobra remains to be seen. Did they make convertible Cobras? If not then it was a GT. Then again I posted about a race similar to this a couple months back when I knew for sure it was a Cobra, I didn't win but I kept right up.

 

They did, and they still do:
http://carpoint.msn.com/Vip/TrimSel/...stang/2001.asp

 

Duals can very easily be put on a 6 banger mustang. But if you heard the car ok. But it was not a cobra because it did not say cobra on the rear bumper cover. Yes they made conv. cobras. But as far as you keeping "right up with" the other "for sure" cobra. (unless you have one bad max wich you might) One of two things happend. You ecountered another fake snake or he was not racing you. A max that is anywhere near stock and N/A will not even think about hanging with a Cobra at any point in the race.

 

I saw a new SVT Mustang Conv this weekend at an auto-x. It had an SVT badge on the back (trunk), the back bumper said 'MUSTANG', but the side badges were of Cobras. I'm pretty sure it was stock (some random guy and his wife were taking turns driving it) but it sounded more like a cobra than a regular mustang. Their times weren't too great, then again, I haven't seen any mustangs autocrossing that have turned good times. Possibly this is the new way of badging Cobras (since they are 'built' by SVT)....

 

Ok one more time. If the car does not say COBRA on the rear bumper than it is not a cobra! Unless someone bought a COBRA and was trying to hide that it was a cobra and changed the bumper cover but I would hope that they would be smart enough to also remove the badges. Or they were rearended and for the oddest reason put the wrong cover on. They did not change the way the cobras are badged. So you also ecountered a fake snake. As for its times being so good I am not sure if you are aware but they also make after market parts for mustangs. Here are the Cobra badgings: Behind the front fender well is a cobra emblem,it has a different front clip that has round fog lights instead of square, the cobra in the grill, THE REAR BUMPER COVER SAYS COBRA, the dual over head cam motor has a cobra on top of the intake,and if it is a 96 and up then it will have the nostril hood which means the two vents on the rear section of the hood have little scoops that stick up further than the GT, also if it is stock then it will have the factory 17in cobra rims but these are often replaced by the 17in cobra "R" rims. Both of these rims and all of these identifiable parts can be easly put on either a six banger or 4.6 liter GT mustang.

 

Doesn't SVT mod non-Cobra stangs? and yes, I've seen convertible Cobras. THere's one on campus that is reeeaaalll nice. yellow with flames on the front, black roll cage, top usually down. one of the benefits of living in socal?

 

Tyson97SE: you don't have to be such an a$shole. I didn't realize that you were one of the founders of SVT, and knew everything there is to know about mustangs. For your information, this is not the only time I've seen a convertable SVT mustang without the bumper saying COBRA. Same exact badges, fogs and rear bumper. These were not swapped badges, and it was no regular mustang. It was faster and louder (making a note simialar to a cobra). If you read my last post carefully, you'd see that I didn't actually call it a Cobra, I said it was a possibility, implying that I didn't know for sure. There is absolutely no need for you to be condesending. I wasn't posting it for you, I was thowing in my two cents. Toodles.

 

Sorry for being defensive but it seemed to me that you were trying to say I was wrong. And you did say that you saw a Cobra-"I saw a new SVT Mustang Conv" SVT would make it a Cobra if it were really an SVT. And yes I do know for a fact that true COBRAS say cobra on the rear bumper cover. If you do not believe me look it up. But anyone with any common knowledge of either car would know that it is not possible for the Max to compete. Even with the worst driver the Max would still not hang with it.

By the way, SVT(Special Vehicle Team) was founded in 1991 by Robert Rewey(VP of marketing and sales) and Neil Ressler(VP of research and vehicle technologies) when they saw that Ford needed to put some comp. on the market.

 

Well sorry to upset some of you guys but a buddy of mine with a 99 Maxima SE with only a intake,short throw shifter and stillen cat-back exhaust beat a Cobra at the track. The Cobra actaully took him off the line but half track the Max caught and passed the Cobra. Nobody has to believe this but he has the timeslips to prove it and I am also a witness to this. One reason I believed he had an advantage was because the Maxima practically has no options from the factory. His curb weight is 2800lbs and 3100 w/ driver.

 

wow, your friend must be pretty heavy if the curb weight was only 2800 but 3100 with the driver (unless i am missing something or don't know what curb weight really means?) :P

 

I just hate to prove people wrong.. but you leave me no choice

http://personal.bhm.bellsouth.net/bh...BadPonyWoW.jpg

http://www.302cobra.com/pit/John%20B...ort%20View.jpg

http://www.302cobra.com/pit/John%20B95/L%20Rear.jpg

http://www.302cobra.com/pit/Larry95/newback.jpg

http://www.302cobra.com/pit/Larry95/newside.jpg

 

The first one is almost just like the ones I've seen, but in convertable, and dual exhaust.

 

OK....seeing that so many of you disagree with me i did some research to see if i was wrong. From what I gathered some Cobras were produced in 94-95 with Mustang on the rear(I stand corrected)but there were very few produced in each year and not all of those said Mustang. So i guess that all of these encounters must have been one of those fairly rare finds.
http://crunch.colorado.edu/~cobra/gi...-96cobra-6.gif
http://crunch.colorado.edu/~cobra/gifs/davis-2b.gif
http://crunch.colorado.edu/~cobra/gifs/carp-mystic2.jpg
http://crunch.colorado.edu/~cobra/gifs/child-1.jpg
http://crunch.colorado.edu/~cobra/gifs/child-3.jpg
http://crunch.colorado.edu/~cobra/gifs/sauls-02.jpg
http://crunch.colorado.edu/~cobra/gi...inger-rear.jpg

 

just as long as you know

no heart feelings

 

By the way. All cobras produced after 95 say cobra on the rear so the first pic you posted of that pretty black mustang, was not a cobra. The other two were 95 models. The way to tell the difference in a 94-95 and a 96-98 are the sideways tail light. The 96-98 models tail lights are slashed up and down. And if it is a Cobra the 96-98 models have the nosteral hood.

 

would you like me to invite him from corral.net so you can argue you point with him?

 

sure.

 

no hard feelings.

 

before i invite him here.. you may want to look this over

http://www.corral.net/cgi-bin/member...p00002735&p&p0

 

Ford for some reason or another does some wierd things from time to time when putting cars together. I used to work at Jiffy Lube in high school and we once saw a 92 stang come in for an oil change that had 5.0 wheels and suspension that was powered by a 4banger. This car was bone stock not a mod at all and was by no means badged. A regualr man in his 40s drove it who said that he got it brand new like that. Ford does some wierd things sometimes. I'd be pretty hacked off if I got a cobra that didn't have a cobra bumper though. Just my .02 cents.

 

I see your point and can not find if it is true or not. Your guess is as good as mine on that car. But a guy from my home town has a 1999 cobra and his says cobra on the rear. I knowt his for a fact because when I raced him in my mustang I got a good look at it.

 

no i showed you the page to look at his mods... he has bumper in there

 

The 94-95 Cobra DID NOT have "Cobra" on the rear bumper. This model of Cobra was powered by the 240hp 5.0 and not the 305hp 4.6 DOHC. These Cobras are easy to note because of the horizontal tailights, lack of tall nostril intake scoops on the hood, and a slight cowl. The 94-95 Cobras are mid 14 second machines in the hands of decent drivers. Some good drivers have powered them to lower 14s stock. Overall, this type of Cobra is beatable by a good running 4th/5th gen 5 speed with an excellent driver.

Dave

 

Hmmmmm. Tyson97SE, you need to get over whatever this insecurity of yours is. If you read my posts I am not disagreeing with you. I am posting what I have seen. Just because I have seen something other than what you are describing (and what is in your scope of knowledge)doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and you don't have to take so much offense to it. I think what SprintMax posted says it all (the link to that black mustang page). And if you also read my first post on this subject, you'll see that I said I saw a "new" SVT mustang, meaning 99+ model years.
Just to let you know again, I am posting what I saw. I have seen it on more than one car, but it is definitly not a common occurance. I am not trying to offend you, but you are putting me on the defense. Maybe it is entirely possible that these are fakes. I highly doubt it, I am still standing by what I saw...
BTW, if I see this guy again racing, sure as $hit I'm gonna go talk to him and get some pics for y'all. I'm sure that'll settle this one way or another...

 

a lot of people at my school have put little cobra bades in place of there gt badges all over their cars-blah! i hate mustangs......just remember mustang gearing really sucks. so u could probably pull a gt in the top end. d@mn fords...

 

All of the new body style cobras I have seen (99+ I think) say mustang (only) on the back bumper. The 96-98 say cobra. I seriously considered buying one prior to purchasing my max and may have done so if Ford didn't **** up the motors.

Keep in mind that it is just a bumper cover. Some dumbass might have bashed the rear and let it be replaced with one that says just mustang (it is probably easier to find at a junkyard and cheaper if ordered from Ford.

What did the wheels look like?

 

OK. Mustang Guy here.

'94/'95 were 5.0's. DID NOT have Cobra on bumper
99 ALSO DOES NOT HAVE COBRA in bumper
01-04 DOES have Cobra in bumper.

V6's can use GT's takeoffs for dual exhaust.

Good day.

Dan

 

Why the hell did you dig up a 3 year old thread?