JonnyMax

here is a pic of my best stock time and my current best timeslips. First one (left) was last october. It was my first time at the track and I had the original 85k miles on the clutch, and it was slipping badly from my 1-2 shift. I estimate it was taking at LEAST 2-3 tenths and 1 mph from me. Most of my runs that day were low 16s because I would spin my tires and get a 3.0+ 60'. I raced against a 4dr Suaru 2.5RS with intake/exhaust and Denso? spark plugs.

Slip on the right was test and tune this past Saturday. I only got 3 runs in and it was my first time at the track since the first day that the other slip was from. We came off the freeway after 200 miles and straight into the runs. I ran against a 92 Maxima 5spd (same engine) who only had a K+N cone filter, 5 deg. advanced timing, and a gutted interior. I was running full interior of course because I am too damn lazy. I didnt fiddle with tire pressures or anything, just tried to adjust my shift points from the first run to this one.

mAdD MAX

Congrats man!

That's a great improvment!

Dave B

Good God!!! A 31.55 baropressure during your first run is flat out amazing (almost like running 2 psi of boost). Man, where do you guys race? I take it you must be racing up in the northeast, right?

Congrats on making a major improvement in your ets.


Dave

Nismo87SE

It seems that your VE would put several modded VQ's in there place . Nothing like the old school beating down the new kids on the block. Anyother mods or plans for the car? I don't know what suspension you have but if you were to get Koni's with eibachs, it would definitly help your 60ft. Not to mention drag radials would too .

JonnyMax

but my Tokico/eibach combo is going on this weekend, and I do hope to get some drag radials soon to put on my stock rims, I think 225/50-15 should fit and help the gear ratio a bit.

As far as the motor there are a couple ideas that were given to me by a previous VE ownner that I may pursue down the line. Also I have considered the idea of the JWT nitrous kit or trying to custom mount a Stillen VQ or TRD Solara supercharger, but as with the other motor stuff thats for much later down the line.

Czar

Thats me on the left of his 14.6 slip whoo hoo....



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Dave B

Cazr-

You do realize that the only thing that kept you from running a 14.7 was your 60 foot, right? Your 2.46 60' to Johnny's 2.23 is very significant. You have over a .2 slower 60 foot which equates to over .4 at the far end of the track. If you could have hooked up and nailed a 2.2 like Johnny, you would have run an easy 14.7@94mph which would have put you nearly side by side with him. Way to go and keep practicing. Good job on making do with fewer mods.


Dave

gLok

Congrads! Damn thats the best time i've ever seen for a n/a 3rd gen maxima, especially with only a 2.2 60'time.

How come the car number was different between your two slips? At our local track they use the last 4 digits of your SS number for your car number so its the same everytime. Do they just assign you a number for every race?

Nismo87SE

If you look at his timeslip he is 2mph behind in the 1/8 mile and it takes his car 8.684 seconds to go from 330 to 1320ft, where as jonnymax does it in 8.525 seconds. Most likely if he was to get a simular 60ft time his car would be around 14.8-14.9 with a 92mph trap. Basically Jonny's 2 tenth advantage off the line grew to 4 tenths and + 2mph on the toppend. Which means given the same launch Czar's car would be on his rear bumper and slowly fading back. Dave if you were to take your best timeslip to date and compared your 330-1320ft times/traps, how would it look?

Maximamike

VQ30DE what?

Czar

I cannot for the life of me get better than a 2.4 60' I look over at clubSI and when they ask what should they be running 60' people say 2.0-2.1 on street tires.... What is wrong with me? I never spin the tires street racing but always at the track. Is my track unusually slick? Do cheap tires have anything to do with it? I launch at 1500 get traction, punch it and then I sit there and spin.....

JonnyMax

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wHOOPS! Sorry sam! this was a cut and paste from clubsi!!! I should have changed it since they actually knbow you here. :P

JonnyMax

Well these two slips were from different tracks. The one on the right was from October at Woodburn Dragstrip 20 miles south of Portland Oregon, and the one on the left was from SIR in Seattle last weekend.

I really do hope to improve the launch and the runs with practice though.

Dave B

It takes me 8.565 seconds to get from the 330 to the 1320. My 1/8 mile is a 9.476@74.96mph. Johnny does have a little more topend then me (I'm trapping at 93.93mph). It's hard to compare or timeslips and trap speeds accurately because I'm at a higher elevation (~1100) than Johnny, I believe. My 60 foot on that run was a 2.255. Overall, Johnny and myself have nearly identically performing cars. My 330' is .001 off his

Dave

Dave B

I too wish I could pull off a 2.0-2.1 60' on street tires. Last year I was running a ton of high 2.3 and higher 60' which kept me planted in the 15.0@93mph range. Over the winter I added new struts and new tires (Yokohama Avid V4s mounted on 16" rims). I believe this is what lowered my 60 foots by over .1. If your struts are shot, get new ones. Bad struts transfer way too much weight to the rear on launch.

As for launching. Try launching higher. Yeah I know, it sounds crazy, but launching higher will keep your car from bogging. Launching at 1500-1800 (I use to launch at this rpm too) caused lots of wheelspin and also a slight bog. This year I ran the rpms up to 2800 and bam!, I got a 14.8 on my 1st try. The next week I wound up the rpms to 3200 and got what I thought was a ton of wheelspin and wheelhop. I thought for sure that I got a horrible launch, but the timeslip said 14.7@94 with a 2.25 60'!!!! From there on out I launched at 3200-3300. I quickly slip the clutch on launch, pretty much dumping it. If my rpms fall to 3000, then I'm good for a 2.2X 60'. If they fall below 3000, then it's higher 2.3s. Everytime I launch I get wheelspin and hop. Next time out I'm gonna try slipping the clutch from 4000 and hope for the best. With your lower torque producing VE, I would launch at near 4000. Don't forget that you've got a LSD tranny which means you can launch pretty hard.

I hope as this helps.


Dave

JonnyMax

Heh heh, da.mn right!

Dave B

I'll take my 194 fwtq (~225 at the fly) over a modded VEs 175fwtq (~205 fly) anyday. I'll always trade a little hp for a lot more torque. I guess I'm still a V8 guy at heart Is that VTC clicking I hear or just an orgy of crickets


Dave

Nismo87SE

LMAO

Maximamike

Is that a rattly *** 4th gen I hear, or a orgy of loose plastic?

=)

JonnyMax

HAHAHA!!!!

Its ok Dave, Its just good to know that A VE is but an ECU mod away from a VQ, and even with the VTC's disabled.

And while I may have a bit less torque, its plenty for me, and thats with the loss of low end from the VTC's being gone too!

amax935

Way to go Johnny! Ever notice how them VQ boys can never give props to VE. Not only are third gens better made but they hang with VQs. Its always oh hows those rattly VTC, well my VTCs are fine, my paint is awesome, have no rattles, that limited slip front diff don't suck, independant rear suspension aint bad, and that heavy *** iron block just might come in handy some day.

Shiet, with Bryan H and Johnny, who except Jeff K posts better numbers in a N/A 4th gen.

Dave B

Calm down, Sally. We're just playing around I know Bryan H quite well and I know exactly what was done to his 92. Let's just say there was a bit more in mods than he led on to believe. The "special mods" were very simple and effective and will work on the VQ, but certain things become compromised. I'll just leave it at that.

I love the 3rd gens and I know they can perform quite well. They have a bit less torque, but they make some good topend power. The 3rd gen is heavier simply because the motor weighs 85lbs more than the VQ. Contray to popular belief, the 3rd gen isn't a better handling car because of the independant rear. The 4th gen might use an ugly rear torsion beam, BUT the 4th gen handles better, but it might not ride as good over an uneven surface. As for rattles, my car has two which appeared after adding the full suspension. The rattles are only apparent after hitting a pretty nice bump. I haven't experienced the "rattle trap" problems many others complain about.


Dave