Tell that to the guys who mod NSX's, Supras, RX-7s, Muscle cars etc. Granted they may be desired more etc and may have more desire by car enthusiasts, the concept is still the same. You guys saying "you're supposed to move forward...", uhh with all due respect there is not a whole lot to move forward to now a days in terms of cars. Seems to me as the only thing moving forward is the power, cars are getting uglier by the year and losing a lot of aftermarket potential. There is a lot you can do to older cars that will BLOW a lot of new cars out the water. These guys doing 3.5 swaps are running low 13s ALL MOTOR. Not many cars today that are N/A are able to do that unless they cost above $45K. Correct me if I'm wrong though. Me personally, I love modifying cars I really don't like stock cars to much. Everyone and their mom, and gradma has a stock car. I went thru the whole ordeal of should I mod, or sell and buy a stock new one. In the end I realized I would want to mod anyways.

The 4th gen has A LOT of modding potential. Mardi ran an 11.5 that's saying a lot. Bro if you're into modding, get the older car and dump money into modding it. Essentially it will be a new car with new parts (once you swap the motor, suspension, tranny, and other performance parts) and IMHO have a much newer look than most '04+ cars.

 

Well Harris not every wants to run 13s, some ppl want reliablity

as for supras and rx7' id say there in a different class

 

If you are wanting to do it bad enough, then you have already made up your mind. We have a way of thinking of positives and not negatives to make our decision look good to us. Enough psychology, I think if it's your daily driver you are making a big mistake. --Yea you could have it paid off in 4 months, and 8 months after that it will be a 12 year old car, assumming the production wasn't in mid 94.
If you want something to play with,(Which everyone does, but most have a back-up car as well) go for it, but if it's relaibility, and dependability you want stick with the 03. Not saying a 95 Maxima is unreliable, I wouldn't want to start that argument, I'm just stating that you will without a doubt have problems with an 11 year old car. IMHO.

 

What's NOT reliable about a 4th gen with a 3.5... it's essentially the same car with a motor thats bored and stroked. I don't think anyone who has done 3.5 swaps has had reliability issues. I've had mine in since August, knock on wood, no problems and I beat the living crap out of it most of the time.

 

I have put around 400$cnd into maintenance in this car in 1.5 years. Not bad considering I have around 250 runs at the dragstrip with several 6500 rpm rev limiter straight dumps on slicks. And yet most of that 400$ is because of stupid decisions I made and could have been avoided except for that 10$ axle seal and the oil changes. 13s N/A is not the same thing as 13s with boost or juice.

I don't think you guys are giving these cars enough credit. Ask anyone and they'll tell you modding maximas is extremely expensive and unreliable. Ask anyone who has gone the route that I, Krismax, Tilley, Nismo, etc. have gone and they'll tell you that's a giant load of crap. So few people are in on this, it's sad.

 

i loved my 4th gen...but after all the maintenance and love i gave it...it has left me in the cold

i mean a 10 year car CANNOT compare to a new one... i mean there so many things that have been worned out... bushings, bearings, boots, sensors, injectors, coilpacks..
i could go on... forget about power and speed, theres no comparison to a new car to a 10 year old

 

Are you being sarcastic?

 

Why would I be? Plenty of people around here saying maximas are expensive to mod and I don't think that has to be true.

Some guys have had good experiences and some have had bad ones. That goes for ANY car. The grass is rarely greener on the other side. Go to any car forum, ANY. Any brand. Any model. You'll always find people that will tell you that specific car is a piece of sht. And you'll find people that will tell you the exact opposite.

Maybe you'll have a better experience with your next car (whatever it is), but one thing's for sure. You'll always find people who'll tell you your car is a piece of crap. Because theirs was.

 

Bro you're not paying attention to what I'm and a lot of people in favor of older cars are saying. A 10 year old car CAN compare to a new one for a variety of reasons I'll give you a few off of the top of my head.

First of all, not many new cars unless they're mega bucks or boosted run 13s N/A. I'm talking about the 3.5 4th gens. Even some 3.0 4th gens are high 13s low to mid 14s which even by todays standard is very respectable yet alone by '94's standard when they were released.

The build quality of a lot newer cars has gone to crap. The interior in my uncles '93 accord was better than in his '03 Accord! Read what the guys that work at dealerships and deal with all sorts of cars are saying. I know cars very, very well almost like the back of my hand. I deal with them consistently. I will always vow that older cars had way more personality.

I will take an F40 which I think came out in '88 over an Enzo. I know buddies and family members with newer cars that are already replacing starters, suspension parts, etc at less than 30K miles. Look at the tranny problems the newer Acuras are having. The older ones didn't have near as many probs. as the newer ones. Look at the 4th gen. Maximas they're near bulletproof that's how reliable they are. How many issues are the 6th gen guys having?

This thread is pertaining to whether or not the creator of the thread should keep a stock '03 or mod a '95. If he mods a '95 we will take into consideration he'll swap the motor and trans., and obviously then work on the suspension and suspension components which will then guess what essentially be a NEW car in a '95 STYLE body. The style ofcourse is subjective to the person looking at it.

 

I misunderstood what you were saying, I thought you were stating modding Maximas is expensive and unreliable.

 

Naturally,

I'm going to say sell it because I love a good project and exspecially one that has a decent budget. However what it all boils down to it what "you" want and what "you" vs. the rest of us wants is two or more different things. I would love to have a 800hp turbo max then again that's just me. So you decide man and post pics afterwards....

 

i mean you put all that money into a car, what happens if it gets stolen? or totaled? what are you left with from insurance?

plus since there are such an abundant amount of 4th gens out, alot of ppl are going to steal them alot... 4th gens around here are a very highly stolen car..especially in Brooklyn. they are very eas to stea as welll, just need to 2 phillips screwdrivers...

you got to remember when the 4th gen was being made, nissan was going out of bussiness and had to borrow money from france, 4th gens are cheaply made..sorry to say

 

No more cheaply made than previous or subsequent gens. My parents have a 94 VG auto (GXE) and a 04 SL and to be honest, I'll take my 95 SE's interior over either of those. 00-03's do have a nice interior though.

As for if it gets stolen. Well I paid 4000$cnd (3200$US) for it and have about 3000 in mods. So that's 6200$. But my insurance company says my car is worth 6500$cnd (around 5500$US). So it's no big loss. Max's in Canada seem to sell higher than in the US. Most 95-96's go for the equivalent of 4-6k US.

Maximas don't get stolen at all around here. Riced out civics and integras go down like flies but I've never even heard of a max getting stolen around here. Plus my car looks totally stock riding on sawblades. To almost everyone it seems like a stock grocery getter. Not much appeal to thiefs.

 

Lucky for you canadians, 4th gens are the new civics around here...plus theyre very cheap

my boy just bought a 95 gle for 2k with 120k miles on it not bad at all

 

Well I understand your comments about theft and what not. No matter what car you have that will be a issue. Escalades are constantly stolen, so are Integras etc. If you fear about theft but have a high desire of spending big bucks on your car you need to go all out on security, you need to park it in a garage, you need to be extra careful. Get a DEI alarm system that tracks your car via satellite and sends images to your computer/cell phone as well as messages. Get a pager alarm system, make an alarm system that's hard to overcome.

As far as quality a lot of companies are/will be/were on the verge of going out of business. Look at Mitsubishi, they still make fast/semi-fast cars. If Nissan made poor quality cars in the mid 90s then why aren't they making high quality cars in the mid '00s?

 

A 95 max is much less likely to get stolen than a 03 IMO. 95 just has that harmless look while the 03's headlights alone scream STEAL ME!

 

Cars are not investments they're insurance policies....now matter how much you spend,you're just not gonna get it back...period

It's the simple fact that you do what you want and what makes you happy.

 

yea but ppl who can afford an 03 can afford to buy parts, ppl who are young and r kids, who need airbags, or bolts, or leather interior, etc could just easily steal a 4th gen

 

i say sell the 03 and take a trip over to chi town and pick up the joosMAX (see sig)

 

I voted keep the 2003.

I plan on keeping my 02' max for a long time and I will put some time and effort into it. But, I will buy a 240sx and use that as my project car in a few years.

 

its true thats why

 

Also because of your age and situation, keep the 03. Money might get tight, never know what might happen. Being 21 myself I understand being without mobility would ruin my life. You might not wanna get stuck in a situtation where u dont have a car for a day or two. Save your money. When you got a place of ur own buy a second project car to fool around with or something. Also I belive that it doesnt have a sunroof

 

What's wrong with Ruby Pearl?????

 

i would keep the 03 cause its nice

 

see you cant post a poll like this cause 4th geners and 5th generes are different species. Were all biased! *** edit yes im biased, sell the 03!!!

 

At least the driver's seat is still where it's supposed to be.

I think since you work at a body shop, you should buy a few cars at auction, fix them up, sell them and use the profits to put towards a 6 speed 03. Personally i couldn't give up the creature comforts that you get in a newer car.

 

i was thinking about the extra options that i have with my 03 and this is what i came up with.

HIDs will have to put on 4th gen
3.5 will eventually get put in
auto windows & sunroof i think can be done to a 4th gen
steering wheel remote will find a way to add on


so i dont think id be losing a whole lot if i got a 4th gen. I actually found a 4th gen that is selling near me. only prob is that its an auto. heres some pics





interior looks decent for the ugly color, the stock shifter would have to get painted or something though. I dont know if i would change the color of the car but i would probably put a carbon fiber hood, 97 front bumper, HID's, lower it, carputer, SE wheels, and if i repainted the whole thing, a stillen kit. It's got 158k miles so im hoping that it will go cheap, real cheap like under 750 possibly. auction is on jan 16 so we'll see. if i win i'll just hope the tranny will hold out for a few thousand miles.

 

Do yourself a favor and don't jump the gun...keep looking until you find the 5spd.

 

I say keep the 03 wait til you have money to have a project car. Don't go and sell your daily driver for a project car thats just dumb. Thats what I am doing im planning on buying a 3rd gen or a 2-3rd gen eagle talon as a project car. You have a nice car. Keep it and wait til you have the money to have a project car.

 

I'm still all for the 4th gen...

 

I don't see why people are saying going to a 4th gen is going backwards. I personally believe that the essentials come first in life like getting your own place. Not to mention your still making payments which means technically you can't even afford the current lifestyle your living in.

As far as 4th gens getting stolen I would believe a $150 2 way alarm system solves that issue real quick. I highly doubt people are still roaming around in tow trucks going after 4th gens when they could just as easily pick up the 5th gen next door which is worth a lot more money. Not to mention that the 5th gen was near the top of list for most stolen vehicles. Moving to the 4th gen would reduce your insurance payments as well.

You'll need a lot more than screw driver to seal mine ~ you'll need a tow truck, hope, and a prayer

All I see is forward movement transferring to the 4th gen