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Old Mar 29, 2006 | 01:16 PM
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Am I the only one that kept the dust shield? I just flattened it out so it would still be usefull. Looks good though.
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Am I the only one that kept the dust shield? I just flattened it out so it would still be usefull. Looks good though.
yeah the cut I did on the driverside was a lot closer. I tried to only take the rim/lip of the shield off with the cutting wheel and then bent it back a little. Corey just wanted to cut some **** up with the sawzall and it was faster than using the cutting wheel.

but other than the unexpected caliper/rim clearance issues the install is strighforward and everything lines up perfectly. The brackets are on point and designed very well Those should really help out on Saturday Karim.
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 09:45 PM
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Did anyone take any better pics?! hehe If this setup interests any others, I'll go ahead have another batch of brackets/rings made
Old Mar 29, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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I didnt realize but this actually would work for the B15 sentra as well since they utilize the same front brakes as the maxima/altima/g20. It gives them an option instead of the Brembo brakes. I think it might help to start a new thread on here for ppl to see instead of trying to read through all the pages. I can have better pics if you want. Just let me know.
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Sure post them up. Not many replies on the G forum though?
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I'll borrow a digital camera and take some better pics soon.
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are you guys positive that the Q45 calipers and the J30 calipers are the same? the reason I am asking is i purchased a set from a local junkyard. They had both J30's and Q45's i noticed that the Q45 caliper had "Sumitomo" stamped into the casting. While none of the J30 front calipers did. I looked the diffrent J30's and none of them had it. I then looked at the 2 Q45's that were there and they both did. Just an observation i thought i would share. I am probally going to go with Matt's 04 Maxima rotor kit since the whole cobra rotor and needing the rings make me uncomfortable. I have no actually seen the rings can someone share how the work in conjunction with the Cobra rotor?
Old Apr 2, 2006 | 03:12 AM
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are you guys positive that the Q45 calipers and the J30 calipers are the same? the reason I am asking is i purchased a set from a local junkyard. They had both J30's and Q45's i noticed that the Q45 caliper had "Sumitomo" stamped into the casting. While none of the J30 front calipers did. I looked the diffrent J30's and none of them had it. I then looked at the 2 Q45's that were there and they both did. Just an observation i thought i would share. I am probally going to go with Matt's 04 Maxima rotor kit since the whole cobra rotor and needing the rings make me uncomfortable. I have no actually seen the rings can someone share how the work in conjunction with the Cobra rotor?

They work just like a hubcentric ring on a wheel... you put it on the centerbore of the hub so the rotor is centered on the hub.
Old Apr 2, 2006 | 06:20 AM
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They work just like a hubcentric ring on a wheel... you put it on the centerbore of the hub so the rotor is centered on the hub.
IS this a safe way of doing it? Do these rights crack over time from forces they are subjected to? There is a Tremendous amount of force from the braking loads. Also it is subjected to very high heat what material is it made out of? Is it the same as the As the rotor? Do they expand at the same rate? If the ring doesn't expand at the same rate as the rotor their is the potential to snap the right.
The reason i ask is. I am trying to decide if matts setup or jeff's setup is safer. the 13inch rotor would look awesome but seems like the 12.6 over time would be less of a hassel since i don't have to worry about the hub rings
Old Apr 2, 2006 | 11:40 AM
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Yea its perfectly safe. If you saw the design you can tell that the hub ring is designed to sit on the rotor, then placed on the hub where it sits against the hub. The ring is sandwiched between the two, there is no room for it to snap or crack from what I can tell. Or you can buy the rotors predrilled on the forum and not use the rings.
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Yea its perfectly safe. If you saw the design you can tell that the hub ring is designed to sit on the rotor, then placed on the hub where it sits against the hub. The ring is sandwiched between the two, there is no room for it to snap or crack from what I can tell. Or you can buy the rotors predrilled on the forum and not use the rings.
pics please. I would love the 13 inch rotor but matt's kit looks awesome
Old Apr 2, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by zack342
IS this a safe way of doing it? Do these rights crack over time from forces they are subjected to? There is a Tremendous amount of force from the braking loads. Also it is subjected to very high heat what material is it made out of? Is it the same as the As the rotor? Do they expand at the same rate? If the ring doesn't expand at the same rate as the rotor their is the potential to snap the right.
The reason i ask is. I am trying to decide if matts setup or jeff's setup is safer. the 13inch rotor would look awesome but seems like the 12.6 over time would be less of a hassel since i don't have to worry about the hub rings

I think your confused on where it goes. It would have no impact on braking or be affected by heat.
Old Apr 2, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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Rings CENTER the rotor, not support it. They are NOT subject to the brake's forces nor are they subjected the heat. You DO know that some hubcentric rings for wheels are plastic right?
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no clue what they are. i was making an assumtion on what i belive they are. does anyone have pics?
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
You DO know that some hubcentric rings for wheels are plastic right?
Exactly. My Ro_Jas use plastic rings and they are holding up just fine.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by zack342
no clue what they are. i was making an assumtion on what i belive they are. does anyone have pics?

I'll upload some later today.
Old Apr 6, 2006 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
I'll upload some later today.

sounds good keep my eye open
Old Apr 7, 2006 | 11:38 AM
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They look like this



They dont protrude that far for our cars.There about half that height. . . atleas the ones Jeff sells.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MDeezy
They look like this



They dont protrude that far for our cars.There about half that height. . . atleas the ones Jeff sells.

thanks i am going to go with

Matt's Relocation Brackets, Maxima Braided lines, Maxima 12.6 rotor and q45 calipers.

Which incidentally might me the kit my brothers car has He has an 06 M45 and it has 12.6 rotor with 2 pistion calipers. i think it will fill out the 17's i plan on getting alot better than his 19's
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Karim, how is this conversion working out for you?

Zach. Nothing would fill out 17s better than a set of 300z twin piston calipers and 13" rotors If you are buying new 17s anyway, you can get some that clear.
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Karim, how is this conversion working out for you?

Zach. Nothing would fill out 17s better than a set of 300z twin piston calipers and 13" rotors If you are buying new 17s anyway, you can get some that clear.

Suckie part is i already got the Q45 twin piston calipers. $100 form the junk yard. I would save money with your kit thought since cobra rotors and your brackets are cheaper than matts . I will wait an see. I am going to look for a set of Z32 calipers.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Karim, how is this conversion working out for you?


Working like a charm my man. The pads are bedded in and it feels solid.
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Originally Posted by Karim


Working like a charm my man. The pads are bedded in and it feels solid.

Any chance we can get some more detailed pics. with the wheels off? ALso karim do you know the thickness of the Cobra rotor? 13x?
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Originally Posted by zack342
Any chance we can get some more detailed pics. with the wheels off? ALso karim do you know the thickness of the Cobra rotor? 13x?





Jeff's brackets in action.

Sorry, i dunno the thickness of the rotor. I used new bolts, lockwashers, nuts to secure the bracket to the hub and the stock bolts to secure the bracket to the caliper bracket.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:00 AM
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Zach. If you already have the Q calipers, then run them. Swapping to 300z calipers later is just a bolt on affair. Provided you have wheel clearance.

Originally Posted by zack342
Suckie part is i already got the Q45 twin piston calipers. $100 form the junk yard. I would save money with your kit thought since cobra rotors and your brackets are cheaper than matts . I will wait an see. I am going to look for a set of Z32 calipers.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Looks fantastic. Very good to know it's all working well.

Originally Posted by Karim
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Working like a charm my man. The pads are bedded in and it feels solid.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/12-75...spagenameZWDVW

will this fit on teh max?
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Cobra rotors are 28mm thick.
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Karim, you done with the write up yet? hehe
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Karim, you done with the write up yet? hehe
Yes Karim, inquiring minds want to know.

Jeff- any idea when those rings are coming in?
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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I dont have access to a digital camera. That's my trouble. The write up isn't hard at all, if you've done a brake job, you can do the conversion. I'm sorry to keep you guys waiting

I'll make a fresh thread w/ some temporary pics and i'll replace them w/ better ones when i get them.
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:27 AM
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I dont have access to a digital camera. That's my trouble. The write up isn't hard at all, if you've done a brake job, you can do the conversion. I'm sorry to keep you guys waiting

Yeah, I was wondering why you need a how to,

Remove old brake parts.
Install new bracket
Install new rotor
Install new caliper and tq member and pads
Install brake line
Test fit
Bleed lines.
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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I just want an easy write up for those that don't know about this bbk option using the brackets/rings/J30/Q45 calipers. Really opens up options cost/wheel wise. Plus most don't want to wade though 12 pages of "what ifs".
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:32 AM
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and also depending on your rim/spoke design, sometimes the front of the caliper has to be ground down...like we did on Karim's install

Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Yeah, I was wondering why you need a how to,

Remove old brake parts.
Install new bracket
Install new rotor
Install new caliper and tq member and pads
Install brake line
Test fit
Bleed lines.
Old Apr 21, 2006 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I just want an easy write up for those that don't know about this bbk option using the brackets/rings/J30/Q45 calipers. Really opens up options cost/wheel wise. Plus most don't want to wade though 12 pages of "what ifs".

exactly. i would love to see the pics. I am on the brink of buying a setup.
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I'm working on the write up now. I'll submit a copy to Jeff and DA-MAX for corrections and additions before I make an official thread.
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Rough draft sent.
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and also depending on your rim/spoke design, sometimes the front of the caliper has to be ground down...like we did on Karim's install
That is no doubt due to his good sized lip, hopefully most of us without lips won't have that problem :crosses fingers:
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Waiting for Jeff's approval before i make the thread.
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I took a quick look and it seems fine to me. Da Max is probably the one to finalize it.



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