I want to put the stillen supercharger on my 2k but ive been told cuz it's auto it would kill the tranny and stillen woun't even sell it.

My question is if I get the torque converter from level ten or protorque, a tranny cooler and vb upgrade from someone Would that be enough to have no probs and run the supercharger.
Anybody have any suggestions or comments?

 

i would say.. for stock boost.. vb and tranny cooler and you will be ok

 

Who told you that?

 

stillen says that.. they tell people they don't sell teh SC to Auto owners because it will kill the tranny

 

There is also a fitment issue, do a search on this, you may wanna seach for Dman's post. I believe he posted this info in the past about what specifically was the issue.
But you are correct as soon as you tell them you have a Auto they will say they can't sell it to you.

 

sorry i don't listen to people who only boost 2 PSI

Adam

 

I searched I came up with nothing. How can there be a fitmint issue it's the same engine regardless of tranny.
If it can't be used on the auto tranny why does there web page say it can be used on auto?

 

I wonder if that is just applicable to 5th gen autos only?

 

now selling to the automagics... :-) I think they did something to the kit and have re-released it for 2k+ Auto's

Del

 

This applies to 5th gen autos only. You can lie to Stillen and say you have a 5 speed, but then you'll have to deal with clearance issues. The auto tranny sticks out more than the manual (Stillen didn't take this into account when they developed the kit), so when Stillen found out from DMan_2kMax, they stopped selling the SC kit to the autos. They gave a lame excuse and said the tranny can't handle the power... yeah, whatever.

I have an idea on how it might fit on the 5th gen auto (studied pictures) even with the clearance issues...

 

Kevin es mucho elegante

 

témame

 

Kevin pare el utilizar en línea traducción

 

muérdame

 

What's wrong with in line translation?

 

 

So the tranny can handle the power? It's just the trans sticks out more???? So what is your idea then? If I take it to a good pro can he just make it fit?

 

Wow, testing the evil moderator......

 

I would definitely recommend the valvebody recalibration and a tranny cooler as SprintMax suggested. A good shop should be able to work around the situation.

 

How much difference is there in size between the 4th gen's tranny and the 5th?

I would think that there's enough room to route the piping as usual between the radiator and the engine from the supercharger on the 5th gen as on the 4th gen.
Anybody actually measure the distance?

The tranny should be able to handle it if you add in the tranny cooler.

Had mine installed since October last year and my Max is a daily driver.

'98 Maxima SE auto
V2 Stillen Supercharger
B&M Supercooler Tranny cooler
Koni Sports
Eibach Pro-Kit
PIAA Superwhites
Straight Pipe replacing curved pipe before the resonator
Rewired clearance lights
Obx brushed aluminum pedals

 

 

Very Funny Sprintmax,

But I don't think they should take advise from someone with 0 PSI

 

The fitment issue was the tranny colided with the air filter. Your airfilter goes to low, so it hits the tranny. On 5spds you do not have this problem. All you have to do is custom make the filter somewhat to a different area.

 

NOS is better than 2 PSI

 

Why limit yaself to the stillen setup, you could get a custom job done.

 

for big bucks.

 

enlighten us oh great one

 

1) an aftermarket Torque converter will not make your tranny stronger, it will only INCREASE stresses on your tranny/drivetrain. It amazes me how many people assume a TC will help your transmission.

2) The VB upgrade has always been a solid upgrade ensuring a good life from your transmission. We have several 5th Gen Auto owners that also have the S/C with no adverse effects.
Maybe someone should get a petition together and send it to Stillen, so they will allow their customers to purchase the S/C with a VB upgrade. It seems silly to me to deny a good percentage of your customers a $4,000 piece of equipment, simply because they may/or may not have problems with the transmission later down the road.

Its not like Stillen would take responsibility anyway, they seldom make good on thier own S/C kits when they fail in some way. Why would selling it to an auto tranny owner be any different ?

 

Here is what ive taken from your comments,
I should get the supercharger and get a valvebody recalibration and a tranny cooler and tell the shop that does the work to refit the air filter?

So my next q is what is involved in a valvebody recalibration and how much is it usally, and who should i get to do it.

Also Who's tranny cooler should I get and from where.

 

Make no mistake! The SC with exhaust mods (like mine - see sig) WILL kill your auto tranny over time even if you DON'T race the car or drive hard that often. I'd bet the $3600 I just spent on a new tranny on this statement.

Be aware that Stillen is only recently taking responsibility for the many problems that have been caused by the new V2 kits (I just heard this today from my shop). My advice is to buy the kit from an aftermarket shop, not directly from Stillen and have them do the install. You could try the shop that did mine (Autogear in Plainfield, NJ 1-877-AUTOGEAR) but I'm not sure if they'll be able to accomodate you.

If you do go for the SC (and you should), for gawd's sake, get Don's VB upgrade (see his post just above yours). You just missed the group deal he had on them but ask nicely and I'm sure he'll do what he can since he's that kind of guy. Right Don?

Plus, you can get the VB done while the SC kit is on order.

Jim

 

Wanna Run with you NOS, against my S/C lets take it on the HWY

See you in Austin!

 

I wanna run, will upgrade to 80-100 NOS in a month or two.

De Max

 

Does anybody else have anything else on this????

If I tell stillen I'm gonna get the tranny cooler and vb upgrade and then mod the filter so it don't hit the tranny you think they will agree and sell it to me? Or will I just have to say it's a 5 speed. I got the new catalog today and it does say only 5's.

How come they just don't redue the sc so it works fine with a auto?

 

Ask cause I want to do that to my Maxima and its also auto. So if I drop a charger I have to replace what?? The air filter?

 

Lets do it DeMax, I am up for it, just let me get my tranny stuff.

 

Somebody must have somthing more to say?

 

Like what?
1) You can get around the "Stillen won't sell it to an auto" by going thru another dealer.

2) You can save your auto tranny by getting the VB modified and cooler, this will increase your tranny life.

Thats it. What else did you need?

 

What can I say I'm a little nervous about it. I guess I'm just looking for any posible outcomes opions and such and just wanna have a good backround before I go into this.

 

I want to thank everyone that gave suggestions and experience. I talked to stillen today and they backed up what you guys said. Saying "You will need to mod the intake" and "The vb mod should make the sc work".So there ya go "deiselxs" guess you can do it too.
I have one last q about the sc. Is it worth it to get a blitz blow off valve or hks valve instead of the stillen one that comes with it? Is there any difference between them other than that its more shinny?

thanks again