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Old 03-15-2006, 08:12 AM
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The Downfall of Nissan North America, courtesy of Carlos Ghosn

This may be new to some of you, but it's been in the making for awhile and I've been following this since last year. Carlos Ghosn decided to move NNA from its long time headquarters in Southern California to Tennessee "to save money" and for whatever reason he expected "most" people to just pack up and move from SoCal to TN. It's turning out to be a bust, there's going to be an extremely high turnover rate greater than 50%, including a lot of key executives that were the real driving force behind Nissan's turnaround, and the organization is basically facing disaster. Not only will they probably not save any money due to all the people just taking severance packages and looking for another job in SoCal, but more importantly the entire organization will be ripped up completely and you can't just rebuild that overnight, or even in a year. This is truly sad and I'm extremely worried about the future of Nissan in this country and elsewhere.

Peter DeLorenzo from autoextremist.com did a full "RANTS" article on this situation for the first time, so I figured I'd link it. A new article appears each week and their archives section is down, hence the full quote.

http://www.autoextremist.com/page2.shtml

RANTS by Peter M. DeLorenzo

The Madness of King Carlos.

Detroit. Now that the real picture of Nissan's move to Tennessee is emerging, Carlos Ghosn's "vision" for its U.S. operations to be part of a globally competitive Nissan seems to be unraveling. As much as the apologists still associated with the company are going out of their way to defend the move and the potential savings (which official estimates peg at around $50 million), the reality of the situation is something altogether different - for any number of reasons.

Ghosn's original boast that "most" of the people at Nissan headquarters in Gardena, CA, would make the move to Tennessee is proving to be a complete bust. Not only are fewer than half of the employees making the move to Nashville, it's the number of essential, high-caliber people leaving the company that have the more realistic insiders left at Nissan gravely concerned. Not only is Jed Connely, Nissan North America's sales chief, leaving, Jack Collins, NNA's highly-regarded product development VP is exiting the company too. These two led a team that was single-handedly responsible for Nissan's resurgence. Carlos Ghosn may have gotten the credit, but even he was smart enough not to mess with the well-oiled machine that NNA had become under Connely and Collins. But these two executives are only two of the most visible of the key players leaving. It's the exodus of the key people at levels just below Connely and Collins - in a broad spectrum of critical areas - that is decimating NNA and ripping the heart out of an organization that at one point was considered to be one of the hottest car companies in the world.

It's amazing to me that this is the one blind spot that Ghosn and his loyalists not only fail to acknowledge, but they almost derisively refer to it as a non-issue. Anyone with at least a modicum of perspective who can actually sit there and think that you can just "plug and play" a new organization (in any field - not just the automobile business) with only slight hiccups and be able to perform at previous levels in short order is either pathologically delusional or so arrogant that they're blinded by their own brilliance.

NNA is on the verge of several key launches of vehicles that must hit the U.S. market with no mistakes and no excuses. That's the price of entry in the automobile business in this country these days - the toughest market in history. Nothing can fall through the cracks, nothing can be left to chance, and an organization has to be functioning on all cylinders and on all levels.

And Ghosn picks this exact moment in time to uproot NNA's entire organization and send it across the country in the interest of financial savings that are already proving to be a pipe dream? Even conservative alternative financial estimates say that the move won't save Nissan a penny in the short term - and that in fact it may cost Nissan dearly, what with bonus payouts to employees who choose to stay for an agreed upon amount of time mounting.

But the very essence of the problem here is that while Ghosn and his cronies are calculating the incentive package from the state of Tennessee and predicting the savings they'll ultimately garner, the one cost they're blissfully leaving out of their equations is the human capital that will be squandered in the process - and the devastating effect it will have on the ability of NNA to function as before.

Even under a best-case scenario, I estimate that there will be a painful gap of as much as 18 months, if not more, before this new organization is up to speed. And that's only a best case. This will be an organization that will be expected to gel overnight, largely stocked with refugees from the Detroit-based car companies (something we predicted on this site the moment we first heard of the news). That's just notgonnahappen.com. It doesn't happen in major league sports even when a team is stocked with "all stars" - team chemistry is never a given - so why should we expect it to happen in Tennessee for Nissan when more than half the organization is new to the task at hand and new to each other?

This move is shaping up to be nothing short of Carlos Ghosn's Waterloo. Ghosn has made all of his calculations based on the idea of cutting costs and expenses and preparing Nissan for its role in the global automobile business - where cost and expense are, of course, paramount. But in focusing on just one dimension to this move, he is underestimating the daunting challenges and equipping his former well-oiled organization with a series of built-in handicaps that will prove to be devastating.

What it comes down to is that Ghosn has achieved legendary status around the world - and he is too arrogant to retreat or admit failure. He would never admit that the idea was flawed or that he is setting up his North American organization for a disastrous undertaking - it's just not in his makeup.

As I've said many times before, Ghosn is a proven corporate turnaround artist, but his ability to lead organizations after the turnaround plateau is reached and then take it through the crucial next phase has always been suspect in my book. And by orchestrating the move of Nissan's U.S. headquarters to Nashville, Ghosn is demonstrating to me that my gut feelings about him are indeed correct. He is willing to trash the current NNA organization - destroying the culture and the chemistry of the team that did all of the heavy lifting and delivered the goods in the process - as long as it conforms to his "vision" for the company's future. In other words, his "vision" is more important than the reality of the situation - or the welfare of the company itself.

Carlos Ghosn may be the King of all he surveys, but this move is pure madness.

And it will prove to be the undoing of what once was a pretty damn good car company.

Thanks for listening, see you next Wednesday.

Automotive consultant Peter M. DeLorenzo founded Autoextremist.com - an Internet magazine devoted to news, commentary and analysis of the automotive industry, automotive marketing, strategy and product development - on June 1, 1999. Since then, Autoextremist.com has become a weekly "must-read" for leading professionals within and outside the industry, including top executives at the car companies, suppliers, dealers, journalists, financial analysts, enthusiasts, and people directly involved in motorsports. Prior to launching the site, Peter spent more than two decades in automotive advertising and marketing, holding top-level positions as Creative Director and Executive CD at ad agencies in Detroit and New York. In addition to his editorial opinion work on Autoextremist.com, Mr. DeLorenzo regularly consults for enlightened automobile companies and is a national commentator on the auto industry. The opinions expressed by Mr. DeLorenzo are his and his alone and do not necessarily reflect those of his clients.
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What a shame. Nissan hasn't been the same in awhile and probably never will be "great" ever again
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This is def bad news for Nissan. I went to Nashville for the SEC tournement game. The shuttle that ran from the Titans stadium to the ******* Entertainment Center was driven by a car carrier driver for the Tennessee plant. He basically said the same exact thing in not soo many words. I am sure he didn't want to spill all of the beans due to his full time position with them, but you could tell what he was trying to say. The positive for him was he has a great paying job and enjoys every minute of it.
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Man, that sucks big time.
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More the reason this is my last nissan.
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bummer to hear about that. it's hard to see the bright side to it. i guess we'll just have to sit and wait and see how it all unfolds.
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Old 03-15-2006, 09:43 AM
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****ty, i just did a speech for most admired business person award at my school (iu), and i nominated ghosn for turning nissan around from 20bil debt.. go figure i prob wont get voted for/extra credit now lol
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This is pretty terrible news to me. I am going to college right now majoring in Mechanical Engineering with a specialty in automotive, and to be honest, was hoping to be engineering cars for Nissan someday. I've loved Nissan ever since I first fell in love with the Z, and continue to love it with my current Maxima.
Is this move past the point of no return? Can Ghosn forfeit his idea of the move, or is it too late? I hope everything turns out well.
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Old 03-15-2006, 10:46 AM
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After reading this...Accords are looking quite nicer...
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Nissan will be fine, and it will work out great for everyone that does move...

Can anyone say big promotions across the board! Unless I had something really holding me back in SoCal, I would be making this move. When over half the organization does not go, that’s quite a bit of room for advancement for you. It also looks good for you when you can say you stuck with the company and made the move.

If you ask me this is just people being stubborn because they don’t want to move and they figure they can force Nissan to stay by not going. Nissan will have no problem filling the positions with either people from Japan for temp or pull people away from other car companies; you think people don’t want to jump ship from GM or Ford right now...
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Old 03-15-2006, 11:23 AM
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It was a dumb business move but this will hardly nail any nails into a coffin for the company.
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More the reason this is my last nissan.


same here
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Well, I didn't have any plans for buying another nissan in the future, and there are always other car companies.Still sad though
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Hey, we still got Infiniti, right?

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I am not reading this at all because I have a interview with Nissan of North America(on Monday) but just from what Steve said it is not good. Although I think the job is for a position here in Atlanta.
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I really like Nissans and all, but this confirms my feelings that I am better off with my current position (tech) at a Toyota dealership. I make alot of money off of dumb kids who fork-up their Celica GTS's. Plus Toyotas aren't nearly as cool as nissans, and toyotas are kind of dorky and plain, but probably more than 50% of the car-buying public are also dorky and plain. Just my 2 cents, nothing personal.
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so I should sell my stock?
but it's the highest it has ever been guess we'll see if it is affected.
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actually most of the people i know that work at NNAHQ are moving to TN...
so yeah...even my boss's wife who works there is going...so i doubt 50% is gonna be accurate.

i think it was a smart idea to move the HQ to another country where (i would think...im not sure on this) real estate is cheaper.
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Eh, I think people are being too melodramatic about this. Nissan will be fine IMO.
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Real estate is cheaper...Cheaper taxes, cheaper labor.......

Nissan will do great! I agree with the person that said this will not be the nail in Nissan's coffin.

Remember when 'Datsun' changed their name to 'Nissan'? Everyone went into panic-mode. Nissan came back to be greater. If they create a great product, people will buy it. I can't stand the dealerships or their lacking customer service, but I bought their product because it is a great product.

I agree that it is all drama. Sure Nissan will have hiccups. But I believe they will be fine.

I moved from SoCal to SC for less than a secure job. I would have followed Nissan to Tenn......
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This is pretty terrible news to me. I am going to college right now majoring in Mechanical Engineering with a specialty in automotive, and to be honest, was hoping to be engineering cars for Nissan someday.
I'm in the same situation as well.
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I actually think its a wise decision. We all know California has some ridiculous taxes. Nissan would save in a bunch of departments moving it to TN.

Also like stated earlier the people who do move will greatly benefit from this. Going from a $1 mil California house you can move into a $300,000 house here that is 3500sqft or more and pocket the rest of the cash.

Also I think nobody knows what is really going on, only the people inside the Headquarters know. Right now I think it is just speculation. Nissan will be fine where-ever they move.

I mean lets face it the man (Carlos) took Nissan that was 20bil in debt and turned it around big time. The man obviously has a little bit of brains. I think this move will work out just fine this won't affect Nissan at all.
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Wish I had my degree already since I'm going for Automotive Marketing/Management...I'm sure this would be a great opportunity to get a job since there will be so many openings. The people who stick with the company will probably be able to move up the career ladder easier.

Change like this is always shocking...but who knows, maybe Nissan will end up in an even better position. No telling yet...but hopefully they'll be okay since I still plan on being loyal to the brand.
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i loved nissan, i had 2 of them, but sadly this will be my last. the quality and the engineering of the maximas are poor and i would not buy another maxima. i might get another old 240 though.
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Originally Posted by Karim
After reading this...Accords are looking quite nicer...
are you smoking crack?????
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After reading this...Accords are looking quite nicer...
are you smoking crack????? i wanna smoke whatever your smoking, it must be some good stuff.
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Its always wise to simply stand back and see where this goes. Goodness knows we can't really trust the automotive media.....I'm reserving judgement until I see
Nissan actually **** up....

For all we know, all the operational money they save could go to the Maxima R&D fund.....and, what do ya know, we have a better car!

Its ironic....because according to the media, Nissan shoula gone bankrupt about 6-7 years ago, and look where it is now?
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Eh, I think people are being too melodramatic about this. Nissan will be fine IMO.
^^^ BINGO!!! TXT just nailed it.
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BourneJ , there must be hope if there's a few Skyline R33's floating around . No way the frogs could engineer an R32 or 33 .

Cheers Adrian .
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At the employee level, I can understand the feeling of panic. Undoubtedly, Nissan will lose some very talented employees. However, they will also lose some untalented (and probably overpaid) employees. Ghosn says that Nissan can expect some amount of savings from this move and he says that for two reasons. First of all, everyone understands numbers; they're quantifyable. Secondly, publically traded companies such as Nissan can pretty much only make sweeping organizational changes when cost savings are involved. (Otherwise they risk losing stockholder support.)
The REAL advantages for the move are realizable at the organizational level. Ghosn knows things that we, as outsiders, don't. Probably he feels that the organizational culture needs a shakeup. Companies often devolve into layers of management yes-men after experiencing a period of success and complacency, and he is looking to set the company on the right track going forward. There are also certain synergies that can be established between a factory and a design team when they're in the same timezone.
(FYI, I'm no Ghosn fanboy, nor am I an expert on Nissan NA. I'm merely making an observation based on a few news articles and the rant above. I am, however, an engineer who's working on an MBA and I've studied similiar situations before.)
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More the reason this is my last nissan.
I felt that way 4 years ago. My next will be a Subaru.
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hey u never know it might be a great move. lower operations cost might lower the cost of the final product.
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I think this will work out for Nissan in the long run. My guess is this build up is just drama from those who don't want to move. Nissan will be fine.
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Think I might move to Tenn. and apply for a job at Nissan. They are looking for 50% of the workforce right? That would be a great job!! Seriously I hope it doesn't mess with the quality of products that Nissan has been putting out--as I see it Nissan has made the second largest turn around in North America. Second only to Chrysler, so I hope everything works out.
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seems like more hype then any real facts, just some douche bag who wants the people to believe Nissan is gonna collapse, he probably drives a Toyota
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