Improving your gas mileage! What Oil Companies DO NOT want us to know! up to 30% incr
04-10-2006, 08:42 AM
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Improving your gas mileage! What Oil Companies DO NOT want us to know! up to 30% incr
http://www.pureenergysystems.com/new...900069_Acetone
3 ounce of acetone per 10 gallons of gas = 35% increase in MPG. what do u all think?
3 ounce of acetone per 10 gallons of gas = 35% increase in MPG. what do u all think?
04-10-2006, 09:48 AM
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there is 6 pages on this already. i didnt bother reading all of it but some of them say it helped them while others claim its not a good idea.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1583353
and i dont go to honda forums, just their off topic section.
http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1583353
and i dont go to honda forums, just their off topic section.
04-10-2006, 02:22 PM
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Keep acetone away from painted surfaces, such as the paint on your car under the gas tank opening. Acetone is the key ingredient in paint remover. In addition to paint, fuels, including acetone, gasoline alone can also dissolve asphalt and most plastics.
Acetone and Your Engine
Acetone is known to deteriorate cheap plastics and other substances. While the components in a car's fuel system should be of high quality, and thus immune to any deleterious effects from exposure to acetone, be aware that "ideal" is not always the case in practice. Be advised that not all systems have been tested against acetone. Until such thorough testing has been accomplished and certified by a accredited authority, you assume your own liability for experimentally testing acetone in your particular system.
yeah i'll pass...
Acetone and Your Engine
Acetone is known to deteriorate cheap plastics and other substances. While the components in a car's fuel system should be of high quality, and thus immune to any deleterious effects from exposure to acetone, be aware that "ideal" is not always the case in practice. Be advised that not all systems have been tested against acetone. Until such thorough testing has been accomplished and certified by a accredited authority, you assume your own liability for experimentally testing acetone in your particular system.
yeah i'll pass...
04-10-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by DanNY
hmmmm interesting.....i might have to try that on my lawnmower first and see. thanks!
04-11-2006, 12:47 PM
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I worked for a plastic company back in 1961 and put some acetone in my 54 ford v8 a couple times but it sure will mess up and melt plastics and melt the paint off your car. I say stay away from it. Don't take a chance of messing up your fuel system. Let your wife or girlfriend clean their fingernail polish off with it.
04-11-2006, 01:22 PM
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My friend poured some in the tank of my old Escort wagon after getting great results with his Corolla. I didn't experience any improvement. It ruined the plastic funnel we used to pour the acetone with and the wagon was hardstarting shortly after that. I think it was a coincidence though but if I wanted good mileage I would've gotten a 4-banger miser instead.
04-14-2006, 01:45 PM
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Acetone is a valid octane enhancer, and in the small quantities in the gas tank wont make much difference to the fuel-lines.
It doesnt seem to make much difference to my mileage. There are many threads about this on SR20forum and G20.net.
The original net article he seemed to find a large improvement to carbed cars, but in modern engines with good swirl it is not giving such good improvements.
Mike
It doesnt seem to make much difference to my mileage. There are many threads about this on SR20forum and G20.net.
The original net article he seemed to find a large improvement to carbed cars, but in modern engines with good swirl it is not giving such good improvements.
Mike
04-14-2006, 04:17 PM
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It's got to be total nonsense. I don't want to give you guys a physics lecture, but gasoline has a specific energy per cc. of fuel. Each cc. of fuel requires just so much oxygen to burn and produces its quota of energy, and that energy is what makes the car go. It is simply not possible that adding 1% (approx) of acetone will make any difference in fuel economy. All it might do is reduce pinking. The only way you'd see results is if your car actually was pinking all the time, and the acetone reduced that, so allowing the ecu to advance the timing. Use decent fuel and forget about additives unless you are going to the track or using a turbo.
When I was a very poor 17 year old working in a government lab, I had a share in a 1926 van, and sometimes when we ran out of money and fuel we would pour a gallon of benzene into it, but it ran like sh** and smelt terrible. We tried adding everything from acetone to amyl nitrate. Much later we discovered most of that stuff is carcinogenic.
When I was a very poor 17 year old working in a government lab, I had a share in a 1926 van, and sometimes when we ran out of money and fuel we would pour a gallon of benzene into it, but it ran like sh** and smelt terrible. We tried adding everything from acetone to amyl nitrate. Much later we discovered most of that stuff is carcinogenic.
04-18-2006, 11:34 AM
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I tryed this last summer, and kept very acurate logs of acetone concentration gas milage,brand, octane rating, % city/highway driving, ect. after 3 consecutive full tanks w/ acetone added . I used it randomly on a 8000mi cross country roadtrip. after i got home i crunched the #'s and found no difference whatsoever.......And got some realy crappy milage after acidentaly using a bottle of acetone that was scented and not 100%.
05-12-2006, 10:23 PM
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I work at a vehicle rental on campus at my college and we tried this stuff too, after the sellers promised it would save us on gas. We made spreadsheet and tried it through mulitiple tanks of gas and it didn't make any difference at all. It's just a hoax, and an OLD hoax at that, this stuff has been around since the '70s suppossedly. Like someone else said, whenever gas prices go up, it starts selling again. They should bring back the gas tank magnets if they want to really help us save gas, lol.
05-14-2006, 03:11 AM
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you want to improve your mileage then increase your tire pressure to the max sidewall number on the tires. The ride will be a little rougher but the mpg will go up.
Also there is a long thread about the engine coolant temp sensor on nissanclub. Where the sensor gives bad reading and makes the car waste more gas. After replacing it members saw increase in fuel economy. I was against this but after I replaced mine my car went into overdrive 1.5 miles sooner on the freeway and 1 mile on the street. I know this because I take the same damn routes every day for the past couple of years. Also my fans don't come on the instant I get stuck in traffic.
I'm not selling you anything, I just get straight to the point. Don't inflate your tires over the max sidewall number.
Also there is a long thread about the engine coolant temp sensor on nissanclub. Where the sensor gives bad reading and makes the car waste more gas. After replacing it members saw increase in fuel economy. I was against this but after I replaced mine my car went into overdrive 1.5 miles sooner on the freeway and 1 mile on the street. I know this because I take the same damn routes every day for the past couple of years. Also my fans don't come on the instant I get stuck in traffic.
I'm not selling you anything, I just get straight to the point. Don't inflate your tires over the max sidewall number.
05-14-2006, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
after I replaced mine my car went into overdrive 1.5 miles sooner on the freeway and 1 mile on the street. I know this because I take the same damn routes every day for the past couple of years. Also my fans don't come on the instant I get stuck in traffic.
If your ECT sensor was reading to cold, you would use a little more gas, but your fans wouldn't come on early, they would come on too late.
Your ECT replacement results, mechanically, makes no sense.
05-14-2006, 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
ECT sensor has nothing to do with your OD. The tranny temp sensor is what tells the ECU when it's OK to use OD. Overdrive operation is dependent on tranny temp, not engine temp.
If your ECT sensor was reading to cold, you would use a little more gas, but your fans wouldn't come on early, they would come on too late.
Your ECT replacement results, mechanically, makes no sense.
If your ECT sensor was reading to cold, you would use a little more gas, but your fans wouldn't come on early, they would come on too late.
Your ECT replacement results, mechanically, makes no sense.
I was hesistant to do this but 20+ pages of members saying it improved their fuel economy is hard to resist. The sensor has everything to do with overdrive. It won't go into overdrive unless the engine is operating temperature. What do you think the sensor is there for, bling???? It's there for to tell the ecu what temperature it is.
05-14-2006, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by clive
It's got to be total nonsense. I don't want to give you guys a physics lecture, but gasoline has a specific energy per cc. of fuel. Each cc. of fuel requires just so much oxygen to burn and produces its quota of energy, and that energy is what makes the car go. It is simply not possible that adding 1% (approx) of acetone will make any difference in fuel economy. All it might do is reduce pinking. The only way you'd see results is if your car actually was pinking all the time, and the acetone reduced that, so allowing the ecu to advance the timing. Use decent fuel and forget about additives unless you are going to the track or using a turbo.
In Mega Joules per Liter. Data seems to vary greatly depending on the source. So apparently using MJ/l isn't the best comparison, but it does put it into some sort of perspective.
Stochiometric ratios listed afterwards.
Ethane.......................18.36 MJ/l
Propane......................25.53 MJ/l
Aviation gasoline..........33.10 MJ/l
Aviation fuel................33.62 MJ/l
Petrol.........................34.66 MJ/l___14.7:1
Jet fuel.......................36.80 MJ/l
Kerosene.....................37.68 MJ/l
Heating oil...................37.60 MJ/l
Automotive diesel.........38.68 MJ/l
Ethanol.......................24.41 MJ/l___9.0:1
E10............................33.66 MJ/l___14.0:1
E85............................25.95 MJ/l___9.8:1
I haven't found a good source for the Acetone data.
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