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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:42 AM
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Improving your gas mileage! What Oil Companies DO NOT want us to know! up to 30% incr

http://www.pureenergysystems.com/new...900069_Acetone

3 ounce of acetone per 10 gallons of gas = 35% increase in MPG. what do u all think?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 08:46 AM
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Maybe I should try it?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:02 AM
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Doesnt it contain lead?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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Acetone increases the octane level. Acetone = pure 110 octane IIRC. I didnt want to read what the link had to say.

Search for homemade race gas.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:43 AM
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interesting.....who's gonna try it out?
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, acetone can do some serious damage to fuel system components. It might increase fuel economy but I don't think it worth the risk...
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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there is 6 pages on this already. i didnt bother reading all of it but some of them say it helped them while others claim its not a good idea.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1583353

and i dont go to honda forums, just their off topic section.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 09:59 AM
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Repost on adding acetone. Probably popular again seeing as how prices are rising again, though.
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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It's been done before. Wait a while, I'm sure my bro will write about his experience.
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Old Apr 10, 2006 | 02:22 PM
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Keep acetone away from painted surfaces, such as the paint on your car under the gas tank opening. Acetone is the key ingredient in paint remover. In addition to paint, fuels, including acetone, gasoline alone can also dissolve asphalt and most plastics.


Acetone and Your Engine
Acetone is known to deteriorate cheap plastics and other substances. While the components in a car's fuel system should be of high quality, and thus immune to any deleterious effects from exposure to acetone, be aware that "ideal" is not always the case in practice. Be advised that not all systems have been tested against acetone. Until such thorough testing has been accomplished and certified by a accredited authority, you assume your own liability for experimentally testing acetone in your particular system.


yeah i'll pass...
Old Apr 10, 2006 | 03:01 PM
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hmmmm interesting.....i might have to try that on my lawnmower first and see. thanks!
Hmmm it does sound pretty interesting. But I agree with what it states in quotes. I don't want to risk it unless someone already tried this for real.
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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I worked for a plastic company back in 1961 and put some acetone in my 54 ford v8 a couple times but it sure will mess up and melt plastics and melt the paint off your car. I say stay away from it. Don't take a chance of messing up your fuel system. Let your wife or girlfriend clean their fingernail polish off with it.
Old Apr 11, 2006 | 01:22 PM
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My friend poured some in the tank of my old Escort wagon after getting great results with his Corolla. I didn't experience any improvement. It ruined the plastic funnel we used to pour the acetone with and the wagon was hardstarting shortly after that. I think it was a coincidence though but if I wanted good mileage I would've gotten a 4-banger miser instead.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 03:52 PM
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agree ^^^^^ with what bonka said. There's no way I'm going to do this now.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 04:04 PM
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This has been discussed about 4 billion times on this forum. Some people say they'll try it and then back out.
Old Apr 12, 2006 | 07:07 PM
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It seems hard to believe that such a small quantity in 10 gal would make any difference to anything - good or bad (except the paint damage)
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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not worth it, and its toulene that increases octane, acetone just kills plastic...
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 01:45 PM
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Acetone is a valid octane enhancer, and in the small quantities in the gas tank wont make much difference to the fuel-lines.
It doesnt seem to make much difference to my mileage. There are many threads about this on SR20forum and G20.net.

The original net article he seemed to find a large improvement to carbed cars, but in modern engines with good swirl it is not giving such good improvements.

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Old Apr 14, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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It's got to be total nonsense. I don't want to give you guys a physics lecture, but gasoline has a specific energy per cc. of fuel. Each cc. of fuel requires just so much oxygen to burn and produces its quota of energy, and that energy is what makes the car go. It is simply not possible that adding 1% (approx) of acetone will make any difference in fuel economy. All it might do is reduce pinking. The only way you'd see results is if your car actually was pinking all the time, and the acetone reduced that, so allowing the ecu to advance the timing. Use decent fuel and forget about additives unless you are going to the track or using a turbo.
When I was a very poor 17 year old working in a government lab, I had a share in a 1926 van, and sometimes when we ran out of money and fuel we would pour a gallon of benzene into it, but it ran like sh** and smelt terrible. We tried adding everything from acetone to amyl nitrate. Much later we discovered most of that stuff is carcinogenic.
Old Apr 14, 2006 | 04:43 PM
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if you do want to, add MMO/ATF/etc to it



honestly it is not cost effective or worth the risks IMHO.




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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
honestly it is not cost effective or worth the risks IMHO.

Agreed!
Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Xyience............ FTW
Old Apr 18, 2006 | 11:34 AM
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I tryed this last summer, and kept very acurate logs of acetone concentration gas milage,brand, octane rating, % city/highway driving, ect. after 3 consecutive full tanks w/ acetone added . I used it randomly on a 8000mi cross country roadtrip. after i got home i crunched the #'s and found no difference whatsoever.......And got some realy crappy milage after acidentaly using a bottle of acetone that was scented and not 100%.
Old May 6, 2006 | 07:36 AM
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Actone is some nasty stuff. Keep it away from your car.
Old May 12, 2006 | 10:23 PM
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I work at a vehicle rental on campus at my college and we tried this stuff too, after the sellers promised it would save us on gas. We made spreadsheet and tried it through mulitiple tanks of gas and it didn't make any difference at all. It's just a hoax, and an OLD hoax at that, this stuff has been around since the '70s suppossedly. Like someone else said, whenever gas prices go up, it starts selling again. They should bring back the gas tank magnets if they want to really help us save gas, lol.
Old May 13, 2006 | 05:20 PM
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i think they did this on mythbusters before - and guess what - they found it to be a myth. so its not worth it.
Old May 13, 2006 | 05:23 PM
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I thought tolulene was the stuff.
Old May 13, 2006 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by maxgtr2000
I thought tolulene was the stuff.
isn't that in Red Bull?



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Old May 13, 2006 | 06:33 PM
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MythBusters just did this, may have been new or a repeat but it showed a slight decrease in gas mileage.
Old May 14, 2006 | 03:11 AM
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you want to improve your mileage then increase your tire pressure to the max sidewall number on the tires. The ride will be a little rougher but the mpg will go up.

Also there is a long thread about the engine coolant temp sensor on nissanclub. Where the sensor gives bad reading and makes the car waste more gas. After replacing it members saw increase in fuel economy. I was against this but after I replaced mine my car went into overdrive 1.5 miles sooner on the freeway and 1 mile on the street. I know this because I take the same damn routes every day for the past couple of years. Also my fans don't come on the instant I get stuck in traffic.

I'm not selling you anything, I just get straight to the point. Don't inflate your tires over the max sidewall number.
Old May 14, 2006 | 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
after I replaced mine my car went into overdrive 1.5 miles sooner on the freeway and 1 mile on the street. I know this because I take the same damn routes every day for the past couple of years. Also my fans don't come on the instant I get stuck in traffic.
ECT sensor has nothing to do with your OD. The tranny temp sensor is what tells the ECU when it's OK to use OD. Overdrive operation is dependent on tranny temp, not engine temp.

If your ECT sensor was reading to cold, you would use a little more gas, but your fans wouldn't come on early, they would come on too late.

Your ECT replacement results, mechanically, makes no sense.
Old May 14, 2006 | 05:22 AM
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Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
ECT sensor has nothing to do with your OD. The tranny temp sensor is what tells the ECU when it's OK to use OD. Overdrive operation is dependent on tranny temp, not engine temp.

If your ECT sensor was reading to cold, you would use a little more gas, but your fans wouldn't come on early, they would come on too late.

Your ECT replacement results, mechanically, makes no sense.
when does anything makes sense on a nissan????

I was hesistant to do this but 20+ pages of members saying it improved their fuel economy is hard to resist. The sensor has everything to do with overdrive. It won't go into overdrive unless the engine is operating temperature. What do you think the sensor is there for, bling???? It's there for to tell the ecu what temperature it is.
Old May 14, 2006 | 11:42 AM
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It's got to be total nonsense. I don't want to give you guys a physics lecture, but gasoline has a specific energy per cc. of fuel. Each cc. of fuel requires just so much oxygen to burn and produces its quota of energy, and that energy is what makes the car go. It is simply not possible that adding 1% (approx) of acetone will make any difference in fuel economy. All it might do is reduce pinking. The only way you'd see results is if your car actually was pinking all the time, and the acetone reduced that, so allowing the ecu to advance the timing. Use decent fuel and forget about additives unless you are going to the track or using a turbo.
I brought up the same conclusions in the E85 thread. Most people were too caught up in the octane rating and price to notice the facts.


In Mega Joules per Liter. Data seems to vary greatly depending on the source. So apparently using MJ/l isn't the best comparison, but it does put it into some sort of perspective.

Stochiometric ratios listed afterwards.

Ethane.......................18.36 MJ/l
Propane......................25.53 MJ/l
Aviation gasoline..........33.10 MJ/l
Aviation fuel................33.62 MJ/l
Petrol.........................34.66 MJ/l___14.7:1
Jet fuel.......................36.80 MJ/l
Kerosene.....................37.68 MJ/l
Heating oil...................37.60 MJ/l
Automotive diesel.........38.68 MJ/l
Ethanol.......................24.41 MJ/l___9.0:1
E10............................33.66 MJ/l___14.0:1
E85............................25.95 MJ/l___9.8:1


I haven't found a good source for the Acetone data.
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