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Old Oct 16, 2000 | 09:24 PM
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ignore stupid people. Sue the company because they should teach him a manner before it happened.

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Old Oct 17, 2000 | 06:22 AM
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Frerak'n Austin

That's why I won't move there it's crazy man.
I'll just stay here in my quiet little town of Houston.

I agree with going for the company I doubt you'll get much from the man. They'll probably throw him in jail either way. The company might have more to sue for. Then again if they let employees drive Taurus's you might not get much.
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 06:47 AM
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Damn...

I am sorry to hear about what had happened. If anybody ever started choking me while I was in my car I would of broken his arm and grabbed his shirt and drug his *** about 100 feet. I'm glad you are okay.

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Old Oct 17, 2000 | 07:37 AM
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In minor incidents retaliation isnt always excused by cops

A road rage thing happened to me in the parking lot of my apt complex about a month ago, where a guest of one of one of my neigbors, was parked in a loading zone. after about half a day, the property mamger called to have the car towed. As the towing service started to drag his Volvo 940 wagon on to the flatbed he went off getting violent with the driver. I spoke up from across the parking lot that he was illegally parked, this guy was doing his job, and the property manager was the one that called. He came over cursing at me in my face, and calling me homosexual names, mistaking me for a gay guy who lives there as well, (we're about the same size) He then goes upstairs , bursts into the managers apartment cursing at her, then storms off. Later as I was coming up from the parking lot, he started calling me more names and cursing at me more. I calmly told him to mind his tounge and he then shoved me. Instead of doing anything, I called the cops, as per the manager. He got arrested. The cop made sure I did nothing, because he claimed I punched him. The manager saw it all and told the cops what happened. They then told me if I hit him I would have been arrested as well. Needless to say, He got locked up, the neigbors got evicted, and I'm fine. Best thing to do sometimes is to walk away. as long as your life isn't threatened.....
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 02:11 PM
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Road Rage also, but this is how it was.

This is a two lane road, every body stopping with red lights. There is a gas station up ahead of the light a few 100 yards aways on the left. I am on the left lane, as the light turned green traffice moved forward, and I was signaling left to turn into the gas station, but I cannot get in because an SUV was trying to exit. I waited for the SUV to go. A few seconds later this sob, pulled to the right of me and start honking loud and cursing at me because I am not moving. I am not sure if this idiot was driving close to me and not seeing my turn signal cus he was pretty close,or whether he was some impatient bastard wanting me to move forward. I think it was the latter, he was honking behind me, I remember looking back.

Whatever it is people got to be cool, whether right or wrong, people should not be distracted while driving. If you are wrong and that idiot honked at someone-else who have road rage, I would'nt doubt that he would be dead.
Tell you, I was so mad, I was going to step out my car and tell that sob to step out his car and do this. Lucky that I have learned to control my anger. I have no doubt these kind of people will be killed, and I can care less if he's dead for his stupidity.
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 02:16 PM
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Best to do exactly what you did, nothing. As for filing a civil lawsuit, I would only do that if the cops don't press charges. Even if you get an award you have to collect it and guys like that usually aren't rich. His insurance won't cover an intentional act like choking someone.

Usually, guys like this have some other real problem in their life. You just happenend to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

One thing I love about the M5, see yah!!! I had some guy in an Accord pissed at me because as I came up behind him, hew was blocking the left lane of course, I accidently hit my hazards when I put my coffee cup down. After I passed, on the right he wouldn't move, he rides my *** flashing his hazards and acting like an idiot. I sped up to 90mph and he stayed there. I dropped to third, banged it into 4th and he was long gone (without spilling my coffe I might add).
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 02:20 PM
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Hey how much quicker is the 91 M5 than the Max. Is the Max auto or 5spd? Just wondering, don't see too many M5 to know.
I heard the last body M5 could be made pretty quick.
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 02:39 PM
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sorry about what happened.

i sure hope you did what emax suggested about going to the doctor or at least took pictures of your neck to show the bruises. without that evidence, you don't have a case. it would be your word against his. in the legal profession, it's called hearsay. hearsay will not be admitted into evidence in court.
but if you did go to the doctor, then definitely you should press charges.
and definitely get a lawyer to represent you on a contingency basis. that means he or she will front you all the costs and you won't have to pay anything unless you win the case. again, if you have the evidence, any civil lawyer will jump on your case because what the guy did to you is called battery and assualt.

hope you feel better.
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 04:20 PM
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Re: sorry about what happened.

Originally posted by clsund
i sure hope you did what emax suggested about going to the doctor or at least took pictures of your neck to show the bruises. without that evidence, you don't have a case. it would be your word against his. in the legal profession, it's called hearsay. hearsay will not be admitted into evidence in court.
but if you did go to the doctor, then definitely you should press charges.
and definitely get a lawyer to represent you on a contingency basis. that means he or she will front you all the costs and you won't have to pay anything unless you win the case. again, if you have the evidence, any civil lawyer will jump on your case because what the guy did to you is called battery and assualt.

hope you feel better.

You're mistaken. There are plenty of things he can do from a civil and criminal perspective. I already suggested the contingency route. I feel he should press criminal charges and file a civil suit against him.

If "hearsay" was as you defined it, most people would not be convicted of murder due to witness statements. (You are incorrect; hearsay means "evidence based not on a witness's personal knowledge but on another's statement not made under oath.")

Sworn witness statements are essential components of law enforcement. He doesn't need pictures of his damn neck. Sheesh.

/aac
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 04:37 PM
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From experience road rage starts with eye contact. If you stare anybody or vice versa do not engage and they will be less likely to get out of their car. Also, if you think someone is following you and you are on the way home do not go straight home. Drive in a local loop with plenty of outs. You can find out really quick if they are waiting for a stoplight to get out and confront you. Sometimes you come across the psycho and nothing can shake him. A good tip is to carry around one of those cheap disposable cameras in your car at all times. I do, and I keep it in my middle console of my 4th gen max. Just in case this is great evedince.
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 04:47 PM
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Like I suggested before, I would press criminal charges and let the civil stuff go. My experience has been that it would be hardly worth the trouble unless you really want to make a point. You don't have to listen to me but I have been a civil litigator for nine years.

A bit of time in the pokey or some weekends putting up trash will teach him a lesson. I would imagine the D.A. will be pretty aggressive with a road rage incident.
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 05:39 PM
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things are more extreme in Singapore!

If you guys can remember the dude from America a few years back who got whacked / caned by the Singapore gov for vandalizing cars and stealing stop signs...etc.
well, they have implemented jail term (a couple months) plus a few strokes of the cane to the offender of road rage.

perhaps Gore and Bush should debate about it? would they ask congress to instituitionalize this? =)

but like how everyone has said...go see a doctor, get it certified and seek either the local DA or attorney to file a lawsuit against the poor dude!

I've decided to arm myself with a 4-D cell battery mag lite and perhaps mace in my car...a friend of mine got assaulted too in his honda vs a ford probe gt...sigh..the ford probe gt guy ***** slapped my friend in front of his own gf...! guy got arrested shortly after but was released cos my friend got scared...thought that the guy in the probe gt would get him back once out of jail...ended up history caught up with him again...recently got harassed by the probe gt guy again in school...!

thinking of getting a gun, but I'm an international student...doubt it!
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 08:09 PM
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That guy does have big ones approaching a car like that...sure I get pissed but never enough to to risk my life by running up to a strangers window like that idiot did...

These guys are right ...sue the crap out of his company...and think about getting a permit for a weapon...sounds like this was a pretty big dude who could have easily pulled you right thru the window and really started to wail on you....

It's a big step to own a handgun and an even bigger responsiblity on knowing restraint in using it.

At least the guys who suggested guns have good taste in recommending Glock I'd suggest a Glock 30 in .45 though...bigger round will take him off his feet.

But with the unbelievable "criminals rights" that this administration pushes, your *** would be in a sling no matter how much you are in the right.

I look at it like a fire extingusher...hope you never have to use it but be capable and willing to when needed in an emergency.

And yes the NRA stickers are a good idea...
Old Oct 17, 2000 | 10:03 PM
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hrmmm

maybe i should get a Desert Eagle so i can dislocate my shoulder with the recoil ...

... who does this lil kid think he is - yes im talkin about that kid Bow Wow - sheesh
Old Oct 18, 2000 | 06:15 AM
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Eye contact

Originally posted by nismomaxse97
From experience road rage starts with eye contact. If you stare anybody or vice versa do not engage and they will be less likely to get out of their car. Also, if you think someone is following you and you are on the way home do not go straight home. Drive in a local loop with plenty of outs. You can find out really quick if they are waiting for a stoplight to get out and confront you. Sometimes you come across the psycho and nothing can shake him. A good tip is to carry around one of those cheap disposable cameras in your car at all times. I do, and I keep it in my middle console of my 4th gen max. Just in case this is great evedince.
I strongly disagree with the idea of not making eye contact, in particular when the road rage idiot is already engaged in aggressive behavior. There is an street close to where I work on which people make a left turn under the freeway and then get on the freeway. It is a two-lane left turn and the people in the left most turning lane never want to let people in the right turning lane over to merge on to the on ramp. One day this idiot in a ford ranger mini-truck decided I shouldn't be allowed on the freeway. I didn't care if I was in front of him or in back, but he would slow when I slowed and speed up when I did such that we were right next to each other (mind you traffic is moving about 1-2 mph). Thankfully I looked over at this nut to see him reaching across his startled girlfriend, out his rolled down window in an attempt to grab my side view mirror. I have no idea what he intened to accomplish by grabbing my mirrior. He was driving so close to me that our side view mirrors were about half an inch apart.

The point is that if you don't look to see what the idiot is doing you are puting yourself at a defensive disadvantage. I am NOT talking about staring at someone, just a quick glance to see if you need to take some necessary immediate action. After that incident I started puting my CCL to good use.

TMAX
Old Oct 18, 2000 | 08:19 PM
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Naw...

Desert Eagle is Waaaay to much for that close range......plus you'd probably rip right thru him a 5 other cars Plus sort of hard to conceal that Bad boy...not to mention the price of ammo if you can find it
Old Oct 18, 2000 | 09:23 PM
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Originally posted by jnm2kse
That guy does have big ones approaching a car like that...sure I get pissed but never enough to to risk my life by running up to a strangers window like that idiot did...

These guys are right ...sue the crap out of his company...and think about getting a permit for a weapon...sounds like this was a pretty big dude who could have easily pulled you right thru the window and really started to wail on you....

It's a big step to own a handgun and an even bigger responsiblity on knowing restraint in using it.

At least the guys who suggested guns have good taste in recommending Glock I'd suggest a Glock 30 in .45 though...bigger round will take him off his feet.

But with the unbelievable "criminals rights" that this administration pushes, your *** would be in a sling no matter how much you are in the right.

I look at it like a fire extingusher...hope you never have to use it but be capable and willing to when needed in an emergency.

And yes the NRA stickers are a good idea...


LOL ... Glock YES ... but I'd go with GLOCK 18 ... Not AS powerful as the 30 (.45 Caliber) BUT ... a Quick 3 Round Burst into his Chest should Cause a Significant amount of Pain! Smaller gun ... Easier to Conceal!!
Old Oct 19, 2000 | 11:29 AM
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Re: Eye contact

[QUOTE]Originally posted by tmax
Originally posted by nismomaxse97


I strongly disagree with the idea of not making eye contact, in particular when the road rage idiot is already engaged in aggressive behavior. There is an street close to where I work on which people make a left turn under the freeway and then get on the freeway. It is a two-lane left turn and the people in the left most turning lane never want to let people in the right turning lane over to merge on to the on ramp. One day this idiot in a ford ranger mini-truck decided I shouldn't be allowed on the freeway. I didn't care if I was in front of him or in back, but he would slow when I slowed and speed up when I did such that we were right next to each other (mind you traffic is moving about 1-2 mph). Thankfully I looked over at this nut to see him reaching across his startled girlfriend, out his rolled down window in an attempt to grab my side view mirror. I have no idea what he intened to accomplish by grabbing my mirrior. He was driving so close to me that our side view mirrors were about half an inch apart.

The point is that if you don't look to see what the idiot is doing you are puting yourself at a defensive disadvantage. I am NOT talking about staring at someone, just a quick glance to see if you need to take some necessary immediate action. After that incident I started puting my CCL to good use.

TMAX
When I meant eye contact I meant staring. Glancing and peripheral is part of driving all the time. Yeah I agree with you about being aware. Dark tint also helps. They do not know what you got in there and can not predict your next move even if you plan on doing nothing.
Old Oct 19, 2000 | 02:17 PM
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Re: Re: Eye contact


TMAX [/I][/QUOTE]

Dark tint also helps. They do not know what you got in there and can not predict your next move even if you plan on doing nothing.
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Only problem there is neither does the police officer who just pulled you over for going 5 mph over the speed limit....

I prefer not to have my door approached with his G17 or 22 pointed at my head

Anyways I'm in MA so tint is not all that common around here (from what I've seen at least) so it probably differs in other warmer parts of the country.

G18?? heh...where are you going to find one of those? LE only but a nice suggestion
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