If you really want a ECU, go buy it from UPRD, and we will go to a dynojet here in tri-state, me and you together, if we see 30hp to the wheels, i give you $600 to cover your cost, if it does, well, sux2byou and you ain't getting ****, but you can raise hell with the people who claims it should.
how is that?

 

Sounds like another deal in the making.....

Good luck you two guys, I know you'll be happy together.

 

Why not on a Clayton dyno, eh?

 

It's just that the original results were on a Clayton dyno, I think. So...it would only make sense to test it on another Clayton if you're trying to get the same results. But if you aren't, go ahead with the dynojet.

 

yeah but that was not the point.
the point is: they claim clayton is the same as dynojet, in another word a 30fwhp gain on clayton should transfer to a 30fwhp gain on dynojet too, that's the disagreement here.

ok since Doug has a '97, i am gonna have to offer it to the '96 owners then. same deal, any '96 owner in NY, if you get the UPRD chip and we see a 30fwhp gain on *DYNOJET*, i pay for it. if not, sux2byou but you don't lose anything to me.
NE1???

muhahaha

 

you just have to wait for cheston's result.
hopeful he will see 30fwhp too on *UPRD's CLAYTOM*, if it does, then you get the same deal with me.

 

I would take up Chris's offer(no risk there), then make UPRD back their hp claims. ie.. if I don't see xxx hp indrease on the dyno, refund time. So no risk at all to the Maxima owner.

 

Didn't know about the 'Clayton is the same as dynojet' claim. I thought SCC said something about them being different, tho. And we all know SCC is God, after all. I mean, who'd go into a test of the ITR vs. Mustang GT, and end up having to admit that the 'Stang can(at times) be a bit faster? Shoulda used a Silvia.

 

you are assuming UPRD will give a refund in that case, that's a BIG assume in my eyes

 

It's all in the negotiations right?

 

in negotiations with UPRD, not with me

 

First off , i'd have to be guaranteed that UPRD would refund 100% of my money if it don't match the claims..

also i can't afford a minutes down time on my car.. so i'd have to buy another ECU..

Somebody should go for this..Chris is makin a great offer..

Ant

 

dude.
give it a rest.
I'm claiming 30 in the midrange from what i saw from the clayton dyno chart.
UPRD isn't making any claims until they finalize their coding.

if have a problem with the HP gains, then fine, yell and scream all you want to me if you think i lead you on. What i'm saying is the car pulls like a ****. I dont care if it's 10,20,30 or 40 hp gain. who cares. the point is the ecu makes the car faster and that's the goal here. oh sorry it's it's only 23 HP, try getting that out of a ypipe. For someone who doesn't even have a maxima anyone, you like to meddle in things that have no meaning to you whatsoever.

I'm asking you to stop acting like a child who has to have his way all the time. let it go and for once, post something constructive on this bbs.

 

hey wood ear you are really putting this whole ecu thing threw the ringer.

DEBO

 

is it just me or others can see a change in statement here??

may i refresh your memory?
1) you showed a clayton dyno sheet with 30fwhp midrange gain.
2) i said that's alot for chipping a NA car, how about put it on an independent dynojet, btw i was not the only one asking anyway.
3) you got excited and screaming that clayton is more accurate than dynojet, it just measures the gain in a different way, a 30fwhp gain on clayton will be on the dynojet too.
4) i challenged you to back up the claim about the 30fwhp on dynojet by offering you a bet. you called it a childish thing and refused to bet, but you said you will put it on dynojet.
5) we were waiting on your dynojet proof.
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Now, all of sudden, you came back and say:
i don't care how much it gains, it pulls like **** that's all it matters.

too funny

 

still stuck somewhere between ages of 5 and 10 are we?

well, i c how it is.
i'm going tomorrow, so hopefully they will have a dynjojet that we can use. Oh i'm trembling woodear! you and your big money bets. gimme a break. i'll post it reguardless. but i'm still standing next to my claims of ~30 in the midrange powerband.

I dont do bets, because i dont get kicks out of being foolish with my money. I dont need to show off how many cars i have or how much money i have in my bank account. Because i live in the real world, not some high school-drama land you're still stuck in.




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is it just me or others can see a change in statement here??

may i refresh your memory?
1) you showed a clayton dyno sheet with 30fwhp midrange gain.
2) i said that's alot for chipping a NA car, how about put it on an independent dynojet, btw i was not the only one asking anyway.
3) you got excited and screaming that clayton is more accurate than dynojet, it just measures the gain in a different way, a 30fwhp gain on clayton will be on the dynojet too.
4) i challenged you to back up the claim about the 30fwhp on dynojet by offering you a bet. you called it a childish thing and refused to bet, but you said you will put it on dynojet.
5) we were waiting on your dynojet proof.
...........
...........
...........
Now, all of sudden, you came back and say:
i don't care how much it gains, it pulls like **** that's all it matters.

too funny
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if i am stuck between the age of 5-10, i will actually believe a chip can gain your maxima 30hp at the wheels

i don't do bets either when i know i will lose, so don't feel bad you are not alone

cool, i guess we will be here waiting for your 30fwhp gain on dynojet tomorrow.

 

Before this gets (any more) out of hand. We've all seen this arguement, this thread is a re-run.

 

hey i am not taking sides but woodear why do u care so much about this ecu deal if people want to buy it so be it. nobody is holding a gun to anyones head saying buy this or else, but i could understand where u are coming from someone is claiming 30 hp thats alot for the money , but the bottom line is why would he lie about it.

DEBO WUZ HERE

 

I'm not in the NY area, Dallas here, but I'll take you up on your offer. I'll have someone else respected here go with me to the dyno (loren, kaleb,...?) and provide dyno sheets. Is the deal at least 30 hp or 30 +/-2 to 3 hp (margin of error on a dyno)? I'm not for certain about the 30 hp either but willing to make an independant judgement for the board. You up for it? Oh...and I have a 96 auto with JWT intake as the only performance mod.

 

you misunderstood it.
i don't think cheston lied about it, i believe the clayton really showed 30fwhp gain at UPRD. the point is whether it will show 30 on dynojet too.
if you noticed from day1, i was not the only person having this doubt, cuz for people who know about car tuning, 30hp at wheels on NA car with a ecu remap is unheard of.