Dan99SE

My sister just bought a '99 Honda Accord V-6 2 door coupe. Its loaded and automatic. She's 10 years older then me and she's been busting my chops on how her car can beat mine. Now, I can't have my older sister rub this in my face. So, should I race her, or forget about it? I guess there's sibling rivalry no matter how old you get. What do you guys think. She doesn't have any mods to it yet. I just have a K&N panel on mine. My cars specs are in my signature. Please, let me know what I should do. Thanks, in advance.

costcowholesale

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you *should* take her off the line, but end the race early, like middle of second gear, accord vtecs really kicks @ highway speed

Chillboy

You better... is not about the car, is about the driving. your cars are probably about the same speed. just be confident and youll win.

Weasel

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Too close to call... just run her and find out.

LoveSick

Don't race her, I don't see the point of proving her wrong. Let her be wrong all she wants, maybe this way she will be happier.

unrealii

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Since both of your engines are about the same, I think it will come down to weight and her car has less of it. Advance your timing and I'm pretty sure you'll beat her.

AznWontonboy

um, accord has more weight.3,283 to be exact. thats around the 5th gens weight, and he has a 4th gen.

A-Ron Max

just put it in 1st and get a good jump off the line, I'd put my money on you.

Eric L.

It will be very close. Both do 0-60 in a little under 8s. So, there is no definitive car (accord or Maxima) that will always win. My guess is that you might do a few runs, and whoever gets the initial jump will win. I bet the results would be the same whether you drive your Maxima or your sis' Accord!

_DRU_

but you should tear it up!! my sister has one with a CAI and full exhaust and i can tear her up upside-down and inside-out, seriously, you WILL win. ive also raced other V6,s with exhaust and maybe some other mods, they are no contest!

carnal_c30

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it'd be close... hopefully your sis is a lil bit squeamish bout giving it all its got... it does 0-60 in 7.8... a lil faster than the average max...
just get it right and end it quick...

_DRU_

o yeah, forgot to mention, i have a 5-speed

jpMAXse

I have a '92 SE 5spd and I walked all over my friends '99 3.0 CL which is basically the same car as an Accord V6 2dr. I would beat him off the line because of the manual tranny, but throughout the gears to over 100 mph, the CL never pulled on me once. And, my car has over 130K miles on it, his had 20 something K miles. We used to race a couple of times per week for fun, and he never came close to catching me. Now he has a 3.2 CL type S and the story has changed a bit now. You should have no problem with handing your sister her a$$ with a '99 SE, even if you do have an auto. Why don't you race, and post some results for us.

DA-MAX

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both are high 15/low 16 second cars, automatics and 190/200 HP and the Max has 10ft more of torque....I'm pretty sure it'll be even until one of you shuts down and ends the race. I doubt there anyone will be "handing the other thier ***" in this race, since both cars are rather equal....

if you had a five speed VE or VQ it would be a totally different story though!

jpMAXse

If I hear you correctly, you are saying that I can beat a VQ auto with my VE 5spd? I don't think that is out of the question, but the way people swear by the VQ on this site, it surprises me to see that.

DA-MAX

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I'm definently saying that...2 examples:

Czar has a VE 5spd with intake and advanced timing as his ONLY mods and his best is a 14.8 while I've seen no NA Auto VQ's into the 14's except Don In Texas(who had engine work if I'm correct). but its all up to how good you can drive that VE, Czar said it took him a couple runs to hit 14's but its is definently possible! and Johnnymax ran a 14.6 in his VE with all bolt-ons as well. I'm not downing the 4th gen autos in any way, but IMO the VE 5spd can definently take it!

jpMAXse

Thanks for the feedback, I will keep that in mind the next time I pull up to a 4th gen.

93 SE

just look at my sig...ve baby..even though im an automagic superstar

matt92gxe

back to the maxima vs. accord. you guys might think i'm crazy, but i think he will win. my reason: i have raced one before. my friend has a 2k vtec 3.0l 2 door accord fully loaded. he also has an intake and dual greddy exhaust. we raced once before i had my pop charger. he had his intake then, but no exhaust yet. we got up to 80 mph before i let off and my front bumper was even w/ his rear bumper. he jumped off the line, i caught up, and it was even after that. i was very suprised that i only was beaten by 1 car length.

my advice: race her, your car has more power than mine and i didn't get beat all that bad, so i think you will either win or it will be very even. imo, i don't see you getting beat by her.

Dan99SE

Thanks for all the feedback. I think it would be pretty even. But, I know I can get a better jump off the line then her. I'm sure we'll race sometime. I'll let you know how it turns out. I do have another question. How do I go about bumping my timing up? And how much should I take it up? Can I take it to anyone to do it or do I need to take it to someone that knows about Nissans good. I'm kind of a virgin to Maxima's. I used to have a '96 Mustang GT and I knew everything there was to know about them. But, I used to work for a car auction and I fell in love with the Maxima's. I'd like to have another 10 to 20 H.P. What's the cheapest way of going about that? Once again any feedback is greatly appreciated.

Eric L.

It's interesting how the dude asked whether his 4th gen auto could beat a V6 Accord, and then people here reply yeah I can beat a V6 Accord anyday, but I have a 5-spd. What is the point of that?? Obviously 5-spd Maximas are fast, but that didn't answer the original question.

The POINT is that an AUTO 4th gen is very evenly matched to a V6 Accord. Let's compare fairly here. There is no guaranteed winner in a stoplight race between those two cars.

If you want to compare 5-spd V6 sedans, try 5-spd Maxima vs. 5-spd Camry V6. Now in that situation, you have another even match. 4th gen autos are pretty even with a auto Camry V6 as well. The Maxima might be a quick car, but it certainly doesn't spank similarly equipped Camry and Accords.

carnal_c30

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hmmm what years did Toyota sell the camry as a V-6 with a 5spd?

Eric L.

From 97+, I believe CE V6 Camrys had 5-spd available. Also 2k+, LE V6 Camrys had the 5-spd available. They are pretty bare bones, though and cannot be equipped with as many luxury features as the Maxima. If you get the leather, etc..you have to get an auto Camry V6.

I also think that for a very brief time, the 93-94 SE Camry's had 5-spd transmissions. And I've even seen a 5-spd 2nd Gen Camry (with the 2.5L V6), but that was the superbase V6 model. So, 5-spd Camry V6's do exist, but they are very very rare. You'd probably have better success finding a race with a Ferrari.

carnal_c30

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hmmm yea i was wondering cuz i've never seen one... they must be be pretty nice...
i think the sweetest would be the 93-96 Camrys with 5spds... they handled alot better than the 97+s...

the reason why mosta us boast bout the maxi is cuz finding a camry V6 or a new Accord 3.0 V-6 with a 5spd is pretty rare... but yea all equally equipped i's go for an Accord if it didnt have such a ricey rep

unrealii

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I thought since itz a 2 door that i will be lighter...I dunno. I find it hard to believe that 4 door 4th gen maxima is heavier than an accord 2 door. Oh well, I'll let the numbers speak for themselves.

_DRU_

yup, they only come in autos

costcowholesale

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preludes and 4th generation weights abt the same right? 30xx? any I don't think you can get a V6 accord with stick

carnal_c30

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hmmm i thought there weren't haha but after finding out about camry 5spds i didnt wana jump to conclusions

carnal_c30

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hmmm i thought there weren't haha but after finding out about camry 5spds i didnt wana jump to conclusions

Lime

v6 EX coupe
3.0L
SOHC
9.4:1
hp: 200 @5500rpm
torque: 195 @4700rpm
cw: 3,241 lbs.

vs.

v6 SE sedan
3.0L
DOHC
10:0:1
hp: 190 @5600rpm
torque: 205 @4000rpm
cw: 3,014 lbs.

Fairly even match but I think the max will win. Those SOHC engines have to push too hard, IMO. I have driven one of the v6 sedans and it SUCKED.

jpMAXse

I was just trying to give a point of reference to how fast Honda's 3.0 V6 is, that's all. Take what you want from the thread, isn't that the point of this forum?