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Old 08-16-2001, 10:37 AM
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Well fellas-

Its looks as though the VW 1.8T guys are not very respectful of the Max! Some were at Maxus and said all the Max's were slow. They posted it on VWVortex. The link is below.

Go give em hell!

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?&id=76795
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Old 08-16-2001, 10:45 AM
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can't say i really blame them.. most of the maxima's on this board run high 15's and low 16's..
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Originally posted by SprintMax
can't say i really blame them.. most of the maxima's on this board run high 15's and low 16's..
Ouch.
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Old 08-16-2001, 11:03 AM
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Most of the Max were autos. I have yet to see a stock 1.8T do 14's. However I've see a few VR6 break high 14's.

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can't say i really blame them.. most of the maxima's on this board run high 15's and low 16's..
 
Old 08-16-2001, 11:15 AM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
I have yet to see a stock 1.8T do 14's.

Seems like quite a few of the chipped ones have.
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However I have heard about a few stock 5th gen 5spds breaking 14's.

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Seems like quite a few of the chipped ones have.
 
Old 08-16-2001, 11:51 AM
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It's not like they're saying anything that's outrageous... they're pretty much correct in everything. Automatic Maximas are that slow.
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Old 08-16-2001, 11:58 AM
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Originally posted by Weasel
It's not like they're saying anything that's outrageous... they're pretty much correct in everything. Automatic Maximas are that slow.
Double ouch.

Thats gonna start something here! hehehehehehehe
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Old 08-16-2001, 12:08 PM
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Originally posted by madmax2k


Double ouch.

Thats gonna start something here! hehehehehehehe


I have an automagic, and I don't have any illusions about it. I have a high-15s car... it's fast for what it is, but no Skyline in Kia's clothing. Stick Maxes have a lot more of that sleeper appeal.

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Old 08-16-2001, 12:13 PM
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Don't those 1.8T cars have a weight advantage over us? I'm sure they're lighter. An auto Maxima is slow, I can know that first hand owning an auto Maxima myself. With the same amount of mods, a 5spd Maxima should still win. Plus, aren't those 1.8T cars are usually underrated/detuned? I know a guy that goes to my school that has an Audi A4 1.8TQM with just a chip upgrade. He ran low 14s the last time out at the track. That's pretty good, with just a chip upgrade. I actually almost bought an Audi A4 1.8T myself. Then, the stock market went BOOM! Oh well, after I slap on my supercharger, vb, and maybe a torque converter, I can play with them if they want. Sad though, it takes a supercharger/NOS to get the automagic into 14s.
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hehehehehehhe.


I just swatted the hornets nest over there on VWVortex. I think TheBlue and I are going to get inundated with race challenges......
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Too bad the backseat on those cars is like ... a bookshelf.. tiny as heck.
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Old 08-16-2001, 03:05 PM
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A friend has an A4 with a 1.8T that's chipped. I'm sorry, but I'll take my "slow" Max before I drive one of those chunks. It takes FOREVER to feel like your going anywhere. Ther is _no_ off the line power. Yeah, once your goin 35 the turbo makes a hell of a difference. In fact it seems reasonable. But to most people, its the 0-35 thats the most fun...
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It all depends on your perspective, not all automagics are slow

Originally posted by Weasel


I have an automagic, and I don't have any illusions about it. I have a high-15s car... it's fast for what it is, but no Skyline in Kia's clothing. Stick Maxes have a lot more of that sleeper appeal.

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Old 08-16-2001, 03:23 PM
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Originally posted by mtrai760
It all depends on your perspective, not all automagics are slow


I cannot agree with you more.

Since when are ALL autos slow?

I have seen a chipped GTI 1.8T w/ no othe rmods except that run a 14.2. It makes me think twice at times.

Just remember, my max is sleeping...thats what he though!

Let them think what they want. I have nothing to prove to them.
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Originally posted by Synki



I cannot agree with you more.

Since when are ALL autos slow?

I have seen a chipped GTI 1.8T w/ no othe rmods except that run a 14.2. It makes me think twice at times.

Just remember, my max is sleeping...thats what he though!

Let them think what they want. I have nothing to prove to them.
I don't mean you autos on the happy gas, I mean us stockers.
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Old 08-16-2001, 06:15 PM
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As the former owner of a 98 1.8T Passat 5spd....I can say hands down that the 2K1 SE will eat it's lunch.....stock vs. stock. A chipped 1.8T might get them to 190hp or so, but it's slow off the start, and unless they can keep the boost pressure up between shifts, they will have some lag in each gear....I'll take my chances anyday against the 1.8T. And the Max looks a hell of alot better, and isn't in the shop every other month for repairs.

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i beat an A4 1.8T two weeks ago at palmdale....
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I'm heading to the Forum now

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Old 08-17-2001, 08:29 AM
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They at least seem pretty cool

They don't seem like a$$es, like in other car Forums.
Hey if they can pull on a Max that's cool. But I'd like to run one to see for myself. I'm not stock anymore but I'd like to see how quick they really are. I've never been beat by one yet but it doesn't mean it won't happen. Those chips do make a big diff. on German cars but I aint Skurd. I can take um in NA mode.
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