TropicSVT99

Does anyone know what the performance numbers are estimated or tested at for the 2002 Maxima SE 6-Speed. I am looking to order one of those vehicles, but I want to make sure this thing is going to outrun the 2002 Altima 5-Speed V6. Thanks!

EZ

Numbers aren't up yet but I hear low sixes. Altima will probably outhandle it though and having a contour SVT, isn't that important?

AznWontonboy

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Max2000

last night.... if the SC guys are having so much trouble putting the power down (FWD car) I think even at 255 hp, max will run at best low 6s

JoesMAX

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cant be above low 6's for the 6 speed... the 95 5 speed was 6.6 and i have a 95 auto... the 02 auto that i test drove had a lot more pep than my car, so the 6 speed has to be a good amount lower than 6.6 in my opinion

emax02

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Hopefully a road test is done soon! I whould have thought the car mags whould have already done a test by now, I know they have had the oppertunity. I see a camparison test in the new future.


My guestimate is 0-60 in 5.9-6.1, I whould love to see a stock max break into the 5's! Somebody test the damn thing all ready will yeah, I can't take in any more . I say 5.9 to 60!

Weasel

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Well... stock 2k runs 14.9 in the quarter so the 2k2 should be about 14.6-14.7 in the quarter. Perhaps better with a good driver.

JDwyer2821

The limiited slip should help greatly too!

Sprint

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the altima runs 14.7 @ 96 .. IMO 96 mph = 14.3 so i guess the maxima should trap out at 98 / 100 mph being that it is lighter and less drivetrain loss..

so i see it high 13's low 14's

dmbmaxima2k2

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i think that's pushing it. i'd say 6.0 to 60 WITH A LSD and a 14.2 1/4.

Sprint

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steve.. you are the only one who runs 102 and still in 14's

i based my stats on a good 5spd driver

madmax2k

Ouch!

Sonic

The '02 Altima 5 speed runs a reported 6.3 0-60, so expect a 6.2 out of a car that weighs 150 lbs more with 15 more HP.

JoesMAX

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when i stopped at the dealer to check out the altima and the max, i was talking to a salesman for a little while... he said the max actually weighs like 700 pounds more but thats impossible lol

JoesMAX

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maybe im just tired and he said like 200 or somethin, i could have sworn i remembered "700" but theres no way thats possible... now maybe the 03 will be 700 more than the altima

Erock

I will laugh so hard if the 6 speed redlines at 58mph in second gear. You know that their just going to lower all of the gear ratios slightly, which is the last thing they need to do in a torquey FWD car. That limited slip will save our butt, but all I want is a 6th gear/granny gear added to my 4th gen for a smidge of gas mileage and lower engine noise at 80mph.

The gear ratios are fine the way they are!

Sprint

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Actually the Alitma is 1 lb heavier than the Maxima

Altima:

http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/pro...tima/spec.html

Maxima:

http://www.nissannews.com/nissan/pro...xima/spec.html

Kashoggio

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when will people stop listening to stupid Nissan car salesmen. Most of them dont have a clue about the car they sell. All they can say is "ohh this car has a timing chain and ahh... ahh. has a v6"

emax02

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The 6spd maxima weighs only 1Lb more then the Altima, it has a HLSD & 6spd. This stuff should help shave a few tenths off.

700LB'S

NYC GS4

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I had no idea they weighed the same amount. My new guess would be 6.0 0-60 and 14.5 1/4 mile which are 540ia/GS430/A6 2.7T,S4 numbers, which in other words is outstanding. My question is, with those kind of stats now, what the hell could they possibly aim for next year?

blizz20oma

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My guess is 6.2ish and 14.5-6ish. What could they shoot for for next year? Well, for 03 when they're redeveloping the Maxi again or whatever, I guess the speculation is, it's going to get bigger, and probably less of the old Maxima SE image than before. Might be time to look at that Altima.

Sprint

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how can the maxima run the same time as the alitma but its 1 lb lighter.. has HLSD.. closer ratio 6spd Transmission and has 15 more hp?

c5hardtop

I'm curious as to why the Max would have less drivetrain loss. I think 6-speeds if anything have more drivetrain loss than a 5-speed. Are you basing it on something else?

Sprint

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no actually its the opposite.. a 6spd Close Ratio Transmission will have less drive train loss than a wide ratio 5spd

Dave B

Mark my word, the 6 speed will run upper 14s. The Altima that MT tested was a production model. Typically, preproduction models are always quicker. I'm pretty certain that when MT or another mag test a production Altima, it will run upper 14s at best. The same thing happened with the TL-S. They got it to run 14.7s with a preproduction model, but could only muster 15.0s with a production version. Same thing goes for the Supra TT. Don't forget that MT corrects ALL thier times to standard. For all we know, their Altima could have run a 15.4. If I corrected everyones ets in the org we'd have quite a few Maxs running low 14s right now. 6 speeds and LSD won't do much in the 1/4 mile. Peg-leg launches don't seem to be a problem with these cars because 63% of the weight is over the fronts unlike a Mustang or F-Body. The LSD is more for turns, not straightline. Most likely the gearing will be slightly lower than the standard 5-speed with 5th and 6th being overdrive. The VQ already puts out a lot of torque so deeper gearing isn't really necessary in this car. Chances are the you'll still be finishing the race in 3rd like in the 00-01 VQ. I'd bet low 15s will be what most guys in here get with a 02 6 speed. Most guys can't get any better than 15.3s with the 00-01 5 speed so why would we think they could get low 14s in the 02? Like we've in the 5th gen dynos, it doesn't look like all the 227hp is really there. I doubt all the 255-260hp is really there either in 02.



Dave

Sprint

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why you ask?

because Sleeper can get 13.3 out of a Supercharged 98 that doesn't have 250 hp and Larry can get 14.3 out of a CAI and Y Pipe 2k max that doesn't have 250 hp

wether or not the granny shifting maxima owners on this site can get low 14's or high 13's out of the car.. doesn't mean the car is not capable of it..

ok those two guys before.. they don't have HLSD

bill99gxe

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Nissan.......lying?......

Sprint

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you know whats funny.. i am having the same debate somewhere else

http://forums.off-topic.net/showthre...threadid=90757

bill99gxe

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Where's doug when you need him to back you up.....probably playing with his yuppie S4.....

Sprint

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i think he is on clubmaxima with the other gay people.. like Y2KevSE, bill94gxe .. who is that guy anyway

bill99gxe

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Well,

You know the way doug 'follows' and emulates you and clubmaxima......well bill94gxe does the same thing to me.....

dmbmaxima2k2

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:wink:

Dave B

Let's not forget Sleeper's 98 is a 4th gen, is about 200lbs lighter, and his runs are on drag tires. Larry's 2K Max is fast, no doubt. His 14.39 is with mods, powershifting, and under ideal conditions (good weather, very sticky track). I believe his best before mods was a 14.9. There are a handful in here doing 14.4-14.7s with NA 4th and 5th gens. However, these cars are modded. The new 6 speed is going to be loaded and heavy. 17" rims, HLSD, 6 speed tranny, Navi, sunroof, dual power seats, climate control, airbags galore, etc all will add weight to Nissan's flagship. It's gonna be a sweet car, but I have a hard time believing mid to low 14s out of this car, stock. Stock 5th gen 00-01 5 speeds are putting down about 180fwhp and 185fwtq or a loss of about 19% which is really high for a manual (this is why I think Nissan has overrated the motor). Seeing that the 260hp VQ will be mated to HLSD and speed a little more drivetrain loss should be expected. Let's say 20%. So we're looking at 205fwhp and 210fwtq possibly which is very good, but I'd bet a 6 speed SE will weigh close to 3300lbs if not more. Technically (not relying on dyno info) the power to weight ratio will be about 13:1. A 5th gen is about 14:1 and a 4th gen is about 16:1. Oddly, a stock 4th gen is just as quick as a stock 5th gen (00-01), which leads me to believe the 02 isn't going to substainally quicker than either version. I'd love it to be a rocket, but I don't see it happening.

I could be wrong though......



Dave

Kevlo911

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02 max - 0-60= 5.9-6.3 SEC.
02 max - 1/4= 14.4-14.9

Sprint

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true .. true ..

dmbmaxima2k2

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we can only hope he's gonna be wrong.

99niner99

The TL's are really really nice cars.....but you gotta stay true to Max's.....plus the black colored ones just look so much more intimidating!!

NYC GS4

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What I found interesting: At the 2K2 Altima conference, Nissan released 6.2 seconds 0-60 for the 5 spd 3.5 and I believe 7.2 for the auto. In the past I remember them stating that the 4th gen 5 spd will get to 60 in about 7.4 and then three magazines tested at 6.6 and 6.7. So my point is that they actually tend to be modest when releasing performance figures, so I think this might be the real deal.

AznWontonboy

damn sprint, i thought kev was the biggest post ***** here.. but 30 something thousand post over there?! boy you must love off topic material..

Sprint

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