I tried a search, and looking for posts, but so far my questions have not been answered. I give alot () and finally need some help guys.

Ok, if the Budget Y, Stillen, And Cattman are all made from the same grade of stainless steel, (409), (304) whatever, why in the world does anyone pay twice as much for a cattman/stillen ??

I hear budget's Y's have NO bee/hissing sound, but a Nice deep girgle and the same amount of HP.

So, what's up ? If they're all the same grade, and basic design, arent they all about equal ?

Also, how do they sound at idle ? Do y's only give sound under acceleration ?

Exhaust isn't my specialy. Any comments/suggestions at all are greatly appreciated. Thanks~

 

I dont know about the price jump from using higher quality steel or using a lower grade and Im not shure about cattman or stillen having a tighter tollerance in fitment since my cattman was well over 2 inches off. I have a Stillen muffler with the cattman and the sound is deeper at idle but not too loud. At start up you will notice the tach jump faster and higher than usual which makes a nice powerful sound it has a deep rumble sound when driving around 1.5k. At 2.5k the muffler will get loud and the ypipe will not be as loud. WOT sound really nice. I havent heard any bees in a can yet but only a faint hiss is there which I believe is normal and im not too worried about that. Other than that, the pipe was a B**** to get on due to some fitment problems.

 

Thanks bro for the reply.

Well you have a cattman, right ? I am looking forward to a nice deeple girlge at idle....mmmmmm....

Does anyone know if theres any performance difference ?

 

I believe the Cattman and Stillen pipes are mandrel bent, whereas the budget one is not. Anyone else confirm this?

 

Nismo - I don't know what this "2 inch" fitament problem you're talking about is all about. If your y-pipe was 2 inches off....you would have NEVER gotten it on there...do you know how much force it would take to bend that stainless steel pipe 2 inches......plus the angle of the flange would be off when you finished....either you're talking about 2mm and just said inches...because even 2 mm is a ***** to move that pipe....

Craig Mack - ALL I CAN TELL YOU IS CATTMAN....do anything else and you're bound to be disappointed in the long run....just ask SprintMax or Breaux124.....they will tell you their horror stories of other y-pipes. If you want a QUALITY pipe that will LAST get the catttman...you won't be disappointed.

 

Well obviously no one here can comment on how the Budget Y-pipe lasts because they just came out a few weeks ago. When I got mine installed the guy said it fit absolutely perfectly, there were no leaks and no sounds at idle.

When you get to around 1500-2000 you have a very deep growl that comes from the pipe and at WOT you can hear it make your exhaust louder, but the intake is so loud you barely hear it. The y-pipe will add power and you will notice it.

I don't think it is worth spending the extra money for Cattman or $tillen, unless someone people have problems with the pipes anytime soon. I recommend saving a good chunk of money and going with budget, you'll be pleased with the results.

 

My Cattman SS pipe was about 2inches off and about 1.5 inches too long. I had to have a shop cut it down in order for it to be installed.
On the other hand I have heard good things about the Cattman SS pipe. Good Quality and great performance. Budget pipe- people seem to be happy with, not mandrel bent but has no restrictive precats. Looking at the stock pipe which is not mandrel bent either, the bends do not look to restrictive, the precats are. Good gains are expected from budget pipe.

 

Yea dude I am a teenager still and have limited funds. I can't go spending 400 bucks on a "pipe" for my car.

I am sure cattman is the best you can get, but I just can't front that kindof money for a peice of metal.

BigSadler - I have a popcharger intake. The Y-Pipe should be way louder than it, right ? Maybe a CAI but I was hoping the pipe would be deeper and girglier () than my dinky little cone filter. And also, budgets site says they have "F-Pipes" for the max. wtf ? Can you please hook me up with the link you used.

 

Budget has been around for years ... some local guys from Toronto have had their pipes for years & don't complain about n e thing ... yeah .. it's not mandrel bent & it's 409 steel .. but a recent thread stated that 304 & 409 ... no big diff since we don't plan to keep our cars long enuff n e ways ...

I have the Cattman ... luv it ... but I was going to get the budget .. only reason is that he never responded 2 my e-mails ... he's that busy .. if u can get a hold of him (trust me .. call him .. don't e-mail) I think it's a good bang 4 the buck ...

 

I think I am gonna go Budget for my piping needs...

I live in florida...any recommendations on either 304 or 409 steel ? Also is it 212.00 american dollars? Someone said 190.00 but I calculated different. Also anyone want to share their experiances with these people that would be great.

Well, its midnight and I have to wake up at 6:20am, I'm gonna be dead tired all freakn day...more sleep in class...oh well, thanks guys I'll check back here around Lunch.

Keep any advice/comments comin!


~Layta

 

I have the Stillen HAI and the ypipe adds to the sound, but anywhere from 2500-4000 RPMS is all intake then ypipe can be heard again.. and oh is there EVER a DEEP "girgle"... so nice sounding.

 

The flange that mates with the front exhaust manifold was near 2 inches off the the side which we had to bend the pipe over so it would line up with the bolts. Yes, we know how much force it took to bend "that stainless steel pipe"

 

It depends on the exchange rate no? I don't think he has USD pricing ... since the fricken CDN $ is near an all-time low ... my bet is that it's 190 ... u do the math .. i'm 2 tired ..

right now ... 1 usd = 1.56 Cad

go with cheapest .. 409 .. u live in FLA .. no need 2 worry bout rust ... unless u live by the ocean & I don't have n e idea how that will impact ... we here have 2 worry about salt from the de-icers

 

gotcha....I thought you meant off to the front or back...to the side is a whole different story. I'll bet it was fine when it left cattman (they have templates to make sure the pipe is within 2mm of spec.) and got bent during shipping, my pipe got CRACKED during shipping...damn UPS guys.

 

I have a prototype Warpspeed Performance non-mandrel bent y-pipe on my car right now, and it's really a nice looking pipe and it went on the car perfectly. Matt93SE, Dave B, justinmc, Dahnryman, and all the other KC guys can tell you, it's a quality piece of work. I should have dyno numbers soon, and I strongly suggest you give them a call.

 

personally, i've never heard of this budget y-pipe until today...i guess that's my excuse???

 

if the budget y is good you best believe ill pick one up. i aint payin stillen or cattman prices

 

I just ordered a cattman y-pipe yesterday and it should be here thursday or friday. I hope the pipe is not going to be off by 2 inches.

 

I just did a write up with pics of the Budget Y. I submitted it to the DC Max.org website. Hopefully the webmaster puts it up soon...

 

Here is my Cattman / Warpspeed opinion
http://www.geocities.com/breaux124/ypipes/review.html

I don't think many others have had two different Y-pipes on their car, so I can honestly judge the differences.

I also had side by side dyno's and they were pretty even. Warpspeed had a tiny more power down low, and Cattman had a little more up top.
http://www.geocities.com/breaux124/dyno.html


If you can't afford the cash and just want raw power, then go with whatever. But if you want quality and the ability to squeeze every ounce of power then get Cattman.

The budget Y-pipe is non-mandrel bent and there is no dyno info with a mandrel bent and non-mandrel bent Y-pipe. What if there was a 5hp difference would you get it? I mean people pay hundreds for a catback exhaust with hopes to gain a few hp, so why cheat yourself and buy something with less power?

 

Cuzz were cheap, broke-*** maxima lovers who want the best bang for the buck.

 

Dude is tryin' to hate on the sly..LOL!! Why pay $400 for a known non-fitting pipe??

 

wheres the cheapest place i can get a cat y?