STOCK 4th gen hits 14s in the 1/4
STOCK 4th gen hits 14s in the 1/4
Everybody has said that 5th gens are faster than 4th because they have hit 14s stock.
Today at Route 66 Raceway in Joliet, IL Nealoc187 ran a 14.94 in his 96 GXE 5-speed with only suspension mods. He doesn't even have an intake! I am very impressed to say the least. This was his FIRST time at the track with his max.
Has anyone else with a 4th gen ever hit 14s stock?????
Today at Route 66 Raceway in Joliet, IL Nealoc187 ran a 14.94 in his 96 GXE 5-speed with only suspension mods. He doesn't even have an intake! I am very impressed to say the least. This was his FIRST time at the track with his max.
Has anyone else with a 4th gen ever hit 14s stock?????
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Re: STOCK 4th gen hits 14s in the 1/4
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Everybody has said that 5th gens are faster than 4th because they have hit 14s stock.
Today at Route 66 Raceway in Joliet, IL Nealoc187 ran a 14.94 in his 96 GXE 5-speed with only suspension mods. He doesn't even have an intake! I am very impressed to say the least. This was his FIRST time at the track with his max.
Has anyone else with a 4th gen ever hit 14s stock?????
Everybody has said that 5th gens are faster than 4th because they have hit 14s stock.
Today at Route 66 Raceway in Joliet, IL Nealoc187 ran a 14.94 in his 96 GXE 5-speed with only suspension mods. He doesn't even have an intake! I am very impressed to say the least. This was his FIRST time at the track with his max.
Has anyone else with a 4th gen ever hit 14s stock?????
So he had his advantages..but congrats here.
Re: Re: STOCK 4th gen hits 14s in the 1/4
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
No one ever has, but I still find that kinda hard to believe. Don't take it wrong, but he might have had a OSCAI or something. Stickier tires help, suspension as well.
So he had his advantages..but congrats here.
No one ever has, but I still find that kinda hard to believe. Don't take it wrong, but he might have had a OSCAI or something. Stickier tires help, suspension as well.
So he had his advantages..but congrats here.
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Re: Re: Re: STOCK 4th gen hits 14s in the 1/4
Originally posted by VQdriver
i've never seen a 5th gen run 14's. they need more representation.
i've never seen a 5th gen run 14's. they need more representation.
I can't count how many have, too many to count.
One hit 14.3 with just a CAI and ypipe...
hehehe... disbelievers all of you. well not all of you... just russ. thats ok though, josh and steve from the org. both saw my car today, and trust me its stock. Brian will see it tomorrow, assuming its not raining. i'd like to have some engine mods, but i dont yet. I'll post timeslips in a new thread in just a second.... 14.94 wasnt my best run, it was actually my 2nd slowest... unless you count the 17.07 i ran, but that one was messed up
Originally posted by Nealoc187
hehehe... disbelievers all of you. well not all of you... just russ. thats ok though, josh and steve from the org. both saw my car today, and trust me its stock. Brian will see it tomorrow, assuming its not raining. i'd like to have some engine mods, but i dont yet. I'll post timeslips in a new thread in just a second.... 14.94 wasnt my best run, it was actually my 2nd slowest... unless you count the 17.07 i ran, but that one was messed up
hehehe... disbelievers all of you. well not all of you... just russ. thats ok though, josh and steve from the org. both saw my car today, and trust me its stock. Brian will see it tomorrow, assuming its not raining. i'd like to have some engine mods, but i dont yet. I'll post timeslips in a new thread in just a second.... 14.94 wasnt my best run, it was actually my 2nd slowest... unless you count the 17.07 i ran, but that one was messed up
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Originally posted by AznWontonboy
russ just said you werent stock.. i think he meant you have less squat from the coilovers and your sticky tires help the launch, giving you a better time...
russ just said you werent stock.. i think he meant you have less squat from the coilovers and your sticky tires help the launch, giving you a better time...

I was not disbelieving you...
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Any tires better than stock are better. Kumhos are very good tires from alot of people I have heard. Okay, still good run you are stock, suspension helps!
I was not disbelieving you...
Any tires better than stock are better. Kumhos are very good tires from alot of people I have heard. Okay, still good run you are stock, suspension helps!

I was not disbelieving you...
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Russ, so the suspension that I plan on getting should drop my et .2 seconds or MORE!?!?!!? Damn...I better get suspension
Russ, so the suspension that I plan on getting should drop my et .2 seconds or MORE!?!?!!? Damn...I better get suspension
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Russ, so the suspension that I plan on getting should drop my et .2 seconds or MORE!?!?!!? Damn...I better get suspension
Russ, so the suspension that I plan on getting should drop my et .2 seconds or MORE!?!?!!? Damn...I better get suspension
...suspension does help 1/4 mile time.....not .2 seconds...
Re: Re: Re: Re: STOCK 4th gen hits 14s in the 1/4
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Then your blind...
I can't count how many have, too many to count.
One hit 14.3 with just a CAI and ypipe...
Then your blind...
I can't count how many have, too many to count.
One hit 14.3 with just a CAI and ypipe...
Adam (MY4DSC) use to run consistent 14.9's in his stock 2k. He added a K&N cone & 18" rims and ran 14.8. hehe.
ANd the 14.3 run was done by Larry (madmax2k). He says he usually runs 14.5-14.4's most of the time.
a stock max can run 14.8s... it kind of sucks that I never had the chance to do that because I never raced before I got my exhaust. I don't think its possible for consistant 14.8s or even a 14.8 with the temperature above 70 but they can be done with practice.
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Russ, so the suspension that I plan on getting should drop my et .2 seconds or MORE!?!?!!? Damn...I better get suspension
Russ, so the suspension that I plan on getting should drop my et .2 seconds or MORE!?!?!!? Damn...I better get suspension
Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Stiffer the shocks/springs the harder it will keep the front tires planted, meaning less wheel hop and more traction.
Stiffer the shocks/springs the harder it will keep the front tires planted, meaning less wheel hop and more traction.
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Russ....you didn't catch my sarcasm in that post...come on man...you seriously think that if he put stock spring and struts back in that he would be up to 15s???? NO WAY...the conditions weren't even very good yesterday..something like 85 -90% humidity and 75 degrees at 700ft MSL. I'll bet he could get 14.7s with better conditions and stickier tires.
Russ....you didn't catch my sarcasm in that post...come on man...you seriously think that if he put stock spring and struts back in that he would be up to 15s???? NO WAY...the conditions weren't even very good yesterday..something like 85 -90% humidity and 75 degrees at 700ft MSL. I'll bet he could get 14.7s with better conditions and stickier tires.
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
Russ....you didn't catch my sarcasm in that post...come on man...you seriously think that if he put stock spring and struts back in that he would be up to 15s???? NO WAY...the conditions weren't even very good yesterday..something like 85 -90% humidity and 75 degrees at 700ft MSL. I'll bet he could get 14.7s with better conditions and stickier tires.
Russ....you didn't catch my sarcasm in that post...come on man...you seriously think that if he put stock spring and struts back in that he would be up to 15s???? NO WAY...the conditions weren't even very good yesterday..something like 85 -90% humidity and 75 degrees at 700ft MSL. I'll bet he could get 14.7s with better conditions and stickier tires.
I doubt he'll be in the 14s consistently with the way he sits, especially if he were to run in warmer weather. It sounds to me like he's just a pretty good driver and the track was decently sticky. The suspension does help somewhat. Tires don't mean squat as long as they aren't bald. Low profile V and Z rated tires are more for lateral g's, not straight line. I've pulled 2.25 60 foots with bald RSAs. Taller tires are actually better for drag racing.
I'd bet when he adds a Y-pipe, intake, exhaust he'll be in the 14.5-14.7 range like the most of us.
Pretty much any car that is capable of 90-91mph in the 1/4 mile, is a capable of 14.8-14.9s with 2.1-2.2 60 foots.
Originally posted by theblue
a stock max can run 14.8s... it kind of sucks that I never had the chance to do that because I never raced before I got my exhaust. I don't think its possible for consistant 14.8s or even a 14.8 with the temperature above 70 but they can be done with practice.
a stock max can run 14.8s... it kind of sucks that I never had the chance to do that because I never raced before I got my exhaust. I don't think its possible for consistant 14.8s or even a 14.8 with the temperature above 70 but they can be done with practice.
What i noticed about most of you guys that run 14's stock are GXE's. I believe that this is because the GXE's have less options on them therefore weigh less and gives them that advantage.My friend has a 99 SE Limited and it has practically no options on it ( no sunroof,no ABS,no leather/power seats,)His car weighed only 2800 lbs.
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