Is lowering your car worth the trouble?
10-26-2001, 05:11 AM
#41
Originally posted by Vinipux
ALLRIGHT, YOU LITTLE IGNORENT MOTHER AFERS, HERE IT GOES, NO BUMPER LAWS? RIGHT????? what am I smoking??? well, obviously something that helps
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16 to 20 inches above the ground surface, any questions
thank you for listening, have a good day
ALLRIGHT, YOU LITTLE IGNORENT MOTHER AFERS, HERE IT GOES, NO BUMPER LAWS? RIGHT????? what am I smoking??? well, obviously something that helps
...
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16 to 20 inches above the ground surface, any questions
thank you for listening, have a good day
10-26-2001, 05:43 AM
#42
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Originally posted by mzmtg
No one is disputing that tere are laws about that. But, I doubt that they design cars as low as the concept show cars and then raise them to meet the US requirements. They are very likely designed with the laws in mind from the start.
No one is disputing that tere are laws about that. But, I doubt that they design cars as low as the concept show cars and then raise them to meet the US requirements. They are very likely designed with the laws in mind from the start.
European stock BMW sits lower than the one exported to the US. Trust me, I am European and I've seen those cars. The curb in Europe is much lower than here thus no need in jacked up bumpers.
P.S: Please don't spread your American laws to the rest of the world. Many cars are made in Europe to meet their standards, that's why it's called a european car, not american...big focking difference.
10-26-2001, 08:23 AM
#43
Originally posted by AndyXXL
European stock BMW sits lower than the one exported to the US. Trust me, I am European and I've seen those cars. The curb in Europe is much lower than here thus no need in jacked up bumpers.
P.S: Please don't spread your American laws to the rest of the world. Many cars are made in Europe to meet their standards, that's why it's called a european car, not american...big focking difference.
European stock BMW sits lower than the one exported to the US. Trust me, I am European and I've seen those cars. The curb in Europe is much lower than here thus no need in jacked up bumpers.
P.S: Please don't spread your American laws to the rest of the world. Many cars are made in Europe to meet their standards, that's why it's called a european car, not american...big focking difference.
10-26-2001, 08:31 AM
#45
Originally posted by AndyXXL
European stock BMW sits lower than the one exported to the US. Trust me, I am European and I've seen those cars. The curb in Europe is much lower than here thus no need in jacked up bumpers.
P.S: Please don't spread your American laws to the rest of the world. Many cars are made in Europe to meet their standards, that's why it's called a european car, not american...big focking difference.
European stock BMW sits lower than the one exported to the US. Trust me, I am European and I've seen those cars. The curb in Europe is much lower than here thus no need in jacked up bumpers.
P.S: Please don't spread your American laws to the rest of the world. Many cars are made in Europe to meet their standards, that's why it's called a european car, not american...big focking difference.
10-26-2001, 01:30 PM
#47
Originally posted by medicsonic
Isn't Russia in Asia?
Isn't Russia in Asia?
I am something like 12.5% russian so now I can say I am Asian, lol. I am as white as you can get tough.
10-26-2001, 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by mzmtg
No one is disputing that tere are laws about that. But, I doubt that they design cars as low as the concept show cars and then raise them to meet the US requirements. They are very likely designed with the laws in mind from the start.
No one is disputing that tere are laws about that. But, I doubt that they design cars as low as the concept show cars and then raise them to meet the US requirements. They are very likely designed with the laws in mind from the start.
dude, can you read???? in the posts above people were accusing me of bull$hiting and talking about crap, they didn't believe me, so here's the proof, and YES, THEY DO FOKING RAISE 'EM FOR THE US , a good example european/asian maximas, so don't give me the bull*hit man. do some homework before you talk
10-26-2001, 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by Vinipux
dude, can you read???? in the posts above people were accusing me of bull$hiting and talking about crap, they didn't believe me, so here's the proof, and YES, THEY DO FOKING RAISE 'EM FOR THE US , a good example european/asian maximas, so don't give me the bull*hit man. do some homework before you talk
dude, can you read???? in the posts above people were accusing me of bull$hiting and talking about crap, they didn't believe me, so here's the proof, and YES, THEY DO FOKING RAISE 'EM FOR THE US , a good example european/asian maximas, so don't give me the bull*hit man. do some homework before you talk
10-30-2001, 03:40 AM
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Re: Re: Is lowering your car worth the trouble?
Originally posted by Vinipux
you have to understand something, America has certain laws that car manufacturers have to follow, one of 'em is a height of the car, when Maxima, bmw... cars were designed, they were really designed to sit about 1-1.5 inches lower than they are now, so basically the setup you have now is the WRONG geometry, if you lower the car by 1-1.5 inches, you will actually be sitting on the original geometry of the suspension, so lowering your car actually does help
you have to understand something, America has certain laws that car manufacturers have to follow, one of 'em is a height of the car, when Maxima, bmw... cars were designed, they were really designed to sit about 1-1.5 inches lower than they are now, so basically the setup you have now is the WRONG geometry, if you lower the car by 1-1.5 inches, you will actually be sitting on the original geometry of the suspension, so lowering your car actually does help
LOL
no, bwahahahahaha
yeah right...
10-30-2001, 09:14 AM
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Originally posted by Vinipux
dude, can you read???? in the posts above people were accusing me of bull$hiting and talking about crap, they didn't believe me, so here's the proof, and YES, THEY DO FOKING RAISE 'EM FOR THE US , a good example european/asian maximas, so don't give me the bull*hit man. do some homework before you talk
dude, can you read???? in the posts above people were accusing me of bull$hiting and talking about crap, they didn't believe me, so here's the proof, and YES, THEY DO FOKING RAISE 'EM FOR THE US , a good example european/asian maximas, so don't give me the bull*hit man. do some homework before you talk
So do you think they redesign the suspention, or just throw on some Rancho 2" lift springs? The point is they design the suspension for the market. you can have a car with 4" of wheel gap handle better than one with none. It's all in how the suspension is designed
10-30-2001, 09:26 AM
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Originally posted by HoJo
So do you think they redesign the suspention, or just throw on some Rancho 2" lift springs? The point is they design the suspension for the market. you can have a car with 4" of wheel gap handle better than one with none. It's all in how the suspension is designed
So do you think they redesign the suspention, or just throw on some Rancho 2" lift springs? The point is they design the suspension for the market. you can have a car with 4" of wheel gap handle better than one with none. It's all in how the suspension is designed
10-30-2001, 09:37 AM
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Originally posted by AndyXXL
We are not talking about the suspension design or ride quality. What we are talking about is the difference in height between the true European and European export cars.
We are not talking about the suspension design or ride quality. What we are talking about is the difference in height between the true European and European export cars.
Well Vinipux was talking about the cars having the wrong geometry, which has more to do with handling than how the car looks.
11-01-2001, 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by HoJo
Well Vinipux was talking about the cars having the wrong geometry, which has more to do with handling than how the car looks.
Well Vinipux was talking about the cars having the wrong geometry, which has more to do with handling than how the car looks.
11-01-2001, 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by Vinipux
yes, but don't forget that these two go very well together, if a car is "designed" to ride at a certain height and then the height is raised by 1.5"-2" don't you think the geometry will change? a good example is when people "slam" their cars, they are so low that it's not good for the car to be driven that low, the geometry of a slamed car is messed up, so same here, granted it's still a good setup, it still rides fine, but if you race and want to be competitive, it is adviced that you lower the car to the designed geometry
yes, but don't forget that these two go very well together, if a car is "designed" to ride at a certain height and then the height is raised by 1.5"-2" don't you think the geometry will change? a good example is when people "slam" their cars, they are so low that it's not good for the car to be driven that low, the geometry of a slamed car is messed up, so same here, granted it's still a good setup, it still rides fine, but if you race and want to be competitive, it is adviced that you lower the car to the designed geometry
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