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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:04 PM
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NEW MAXIMA IN THE WORKS

reading thru the new motor trend mag with the GT-R as car if the year. they tested the maxima and at the end of the column it said " still, there is a 328-horse, 3.7 liter V-6 in the queue so don't write off the Maxima just yet."

i knew the 3.7 was going to make it to the maxima and that manual and awd drive option is coming also. my speculation but bet i'm right
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:14 PM
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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:33 PM
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Am I the only one who thinks 3.7L is getting too large for a passenger car V6? Too much reciprocating mass = more NVH = less willing to rev... I test drove a G37S and couldn't believe how much rougher and nastier the engine sounded compared to my VQ30.
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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another thought back when the 3rd generation came out in 89 then the new generation z came out in 90 and by 92 the max got the z engine and it was the 4dsc with the lower model having 166 and the se having 190 skip 9 years and the 25th came out in 01. so 2011 for the 7.5 gen gets the 3.7 and awd for its 35th anniversary eddition maybe with a stillen kit also. and the manual will be bad ***
Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by gold4dsc
" still, there is a 328-horse, 3.7 liter V-6 in the queue so don't write off the Maxima just yet."
Sounds like the magazine is only speculating that it could happen, not that it will.
Nissan could put the R35 engine in the maxima too but it doesnt mean it will happen.

But if it did happen, say in the 2010 model, the 2009 model will go down as the maxima no one wants for the 7th generation.

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Old Dec 3, 2008 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by black_maxed95
Sounds like the magazine is only speculating that it could happen, not that it will.
Nissan could put the R35 engine in the maxima too but it doesnt mean it will happen.

But if it did happen, say in the 2010 model, the 2009 model will go down as the maxima no one wants for the 7th generation.
the mag said in queue meaning on the way they had to let the 370z drop and show its performance in the engine b4 putting the engine in it.the 2010 model will be just for the diesl engine and then the new engine won't show up until 2011 for the mid-life restyle 7.5 gen nissan has it patterns and the 7th gen is going to follow the 3rd gen pattern

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 02:47 AM
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Well... the 20th anniversary wasn't THAT special. It would be nice though.
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gold4dsc
another thought back when the 3rd generation came out in 89 then the new generation z came out in 90 and by 92 the max got the z engine and it was the 4dsc with the lower model having 166 and the se having 190 skip 9 years and the 25th came out in 01. so 2011 for the 7.5 gen gets the 3.7 and awd for its 35th anniversary eddition maybe with a stillen kit also. and the manual will be bad ***
The 92 maxima didn't get the "Z" engine...The VE30DE was never in any z car.
Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:33 AM
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actually the VG engine was used in the first gen 300zx and the se had the VE so i was right and wrong the 92 gxe had a version of the z engine

also it was the 20th not the 25th got alot on my mind lately graduating college in a week

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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:39 AM
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i have not read anywhere that its getting a manual trans... ? link me plz


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Old Dec 4, 2008 | 11:58 AM
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I think they simply mean that because Nissan has a 3.7L VQ, there's a chance it may arrive on the Maxima. And don't expect nothing more than a 15HP gain, with AWD possible to put that power down. Nissan would never slap 330HP onto a FWD car, or a Maxima. They'd destroy sales of the G35x completely.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by NYPD-Arnold
I think they simply mean that because Nissan has a 3.7L VQ, there's a chance it may arrive on the Maxima. And don't expect nothing more than a 15HP gain, with AWD possible to put that power down. Nissan would never slap 330HP onto a FWD car, or a Maxima. They'd destroy sales of the G35x completely.
I mostly co-sign with that

I think thats a lil much power in a passenger car, its fine with the 3.5L. Maxima isnt some kind of race/sports car, but it is a good combo of speed/comfort/some luxury in a 4door mid priced sedan. But I agree with the above statement.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:11 PM
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well if this happens maxima sales will probably rise and nissan make money but end up loosing more in the long run bcus infinti sales will drop like there is no tomarow.

i think they might keep this engine and FWD, but will give us a 6 speed with a lip kit,LSD,and maybe that bird's eye view reverse camera.
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 09:56 PM
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we'll see what happens, I wouldn't get too excited for at least a year or two
Old Dec 10, 2008 | 11:25 PM
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I think thats a lil much power in a passenger car, its fine with the 3.5L.
Why? (not to you personally, but posing the question to all)

How come no one has the ***** to make a sedan with some power? Why can't I accelerate from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds with all of my friends in the car? BMW gave us the M5 or even the 4-door M3, albeit small. Why can't Nissan do the same?

Also, I don't think putting some power down on the Maxima would lose sales for Infiniti at all. There will always be a coupe crowd and an M45 crowd and then there will be people with families and kids would want a sedan with decent mpg plus as an added bonus: here is some torque to put under dad's foot when he is commuting to work or driving everyone on vacation.

IMO, I think a powerful sedan would fit very nicely into Nissan's stable. Infiniti already has it's powerful sedan's, but not everyone can afford an Infiniti, which is why I think an entry level sedan, such as the Maxima, with perhaps an option for the 3.7, would bolster Nissan's sales rather than hinder.
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it would be nice, but 300hp to the front wheels?!
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:48 AM
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people down here have 300+ to the front wheels, Personally IMO i welcome the 3.7 engine for the max, ESPECIALLY if they find it going 6spd
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by rxm6
Why? (not to you personally, but posing the question to all)

How come no one has the ***** to make a sedan with some power? Why can't I accelerate from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds with all of my friends in the car? BMW gave us the M5 or even the 4-door M3, albeit small. Why can't Nissan do the same?
because no one is willing to PAY for power. sure nissan can slap a GT-R motor, 4 pot calipers, 6spd manual...but then the car will be 45K+. then the car will be out of it's market. they are trying to compete with Accord, Camry, and trying to get a part of the TL market share.

Also, I don't think putting some power down on the Maxima would lose sales for Infiniti at all. There will always be a coupe crowd and an M45 crowd and then there will be people with families and kids would want a sedan with decent mpg plus as an added bonus: here is some torque to put under dad's foot when he is commuting to work or driving everyone on vacation.
true...it will lose sales due to price. if the Maxima is priced the same as the G35 or the M35 many will look towards the higher line. wouldn't you?

IMO, I think a powerful sedan would fit very nicely into Nissan's stable. Infiniti already has it's powerful sedan's, but not everyone can afford an Infiniti, which is why I think an entry level sedan, such as the Maxima, with perhaps an option for the 3.7, would bolster Nissan's sales rather than hinder.
there you go...you made the point of price. not anyone can afford an Infiniti...so the maxima will still need to be within reach for those that can't afford the Infiniti. adding all the goodies in the maxima will push beyond the reach of those people.
Old Dec 11, 2008 | 06:54 AM
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it would be nice, but 300hp to the front wheels?!
300 to the front should be the most you'd want IMO. But if any of this talk turns out to be true, myself and a few of my close friends would be interested, so I personally don't think Nissan/Infiniti sales would suffer.

My next car is the M45 sport, albeit a used 06 or 07 and the Max is going to my 14yo son in a couple of yrs. I'm doing my part to keep the Nissan brand up and running without needing no stinkin bailout.
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What about 300 to the fronts, Mazda3 style? Reduce the rev limiter in the first 3 gears (essentially killing off 1/4 runs), and slap on a robust LSD (poor LSD!).

Well, then again, that's kinda lame. Should just put in a weaker engine and boost top-end somehow. Boost only in 4, 5, and 6th gear. Will they ever install NOS on factory cars? I can imagine the owners manual:
"For best performance, use premium unleaded"
"For ultimate performance, use premium unleaded and nitrous"

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Old Dec 11, 2008 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by rxm6
How come no one has the ***** to make a sedan with some power? Why can't I accelerate from 0 to 60 in 5 seconds with all of my friends in the car?
Yes you can.

BMW, AUDI, MERCEDES, BENTLY And so on.....

You can't expect to pay 35K and get it all. Put some $$$ down and you can accelerate as fast as you could ever want to.
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You can't expect to pay 35K and get it all. Put some $$$ down and you can accelerate as fast as you could ever want to.
I agree. $$$ gets you w/e you want. But what I'm trying to say is that, if the 3.7 engine hits mainstream, which it will with the g37 and the 370, then the cost to build an engine drastically lowers and therefore, so does the cost of production and then we have a car like the maxima below infiniti tag value.

if the Maxima is priced the same as the G35 or the M35 many will look towards the higher line. wouldn't you?
Yes, absolutely, but, even if the 3.7 made it into the maxima, i don't believe it would raise the tag that drastically or to the point of being near the tag price of a g37. hypothetically speaking, lets say a max is 35k and a g37 is 45k. making up that 10k difference is a lot of different factors: leather seats, larger wheels, better sound systems (possibly), creature comforts, etc. so you add a bigger motor that's already being mass produced into a 35k car and offer it as a performance option for 38k or even 39k. Personally, with a 6k to 7k difference, I would not jump to the higher line, the difference is too great.

Someone mentioned before, why not put an r35 engine into the max. Putting a performance engine like that into a car like the maxima would raise the tag above or equal to infiniti (or more..haha). But, if an engine has hit mainstream and becomes the hallmark of the company engines, as all v6's have throughout nissan's history, then it is only a matter of time before we see the 3.7 in a maxima. The problem is, cars are getting heavier and heavier and with the maxima trend of heavier successive generations, we can probably expect to see the 3.7 in a heavier maxima chassis that would wash out any major performance gains.

We can only hold out hope that the 3.7 is as easy a swap in the 4th and 5th gen chassis as the 3.5 is; if and when it comes in a FWD package.
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