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Old 11-27-2001 | 09:41 PM
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WarpSpeedPerformance announces Sub Frame Connectors

WarpSpeedPerformance announces the upcoming release of sub frame connectors. We have worked hard on this project and they really help handling a lot. We have them on several cars, 3rd and 4th Gen. We will also be releasing them for the 5th Gen. as well in near future. The reports so far have been very positive. Here's
a brief sample from a 4th Gen. owner:
"My car now takes turns with more confidence. I have scared my girl friend on more than one occasion since the installation. It also makes the car more secure over
bumps. The rear deck now rattles much less over driveways and speed bumps.
All in all it was worth it. I like the way my car handles much better now."
The response from a 3rd Gen. owner was even more positive! I had an opportunity to ride in his car which has stock springs/struts. He can't believe how much this tightened up his handling and quieted down the little rattling noises you get when driving on an uneven road.
Dallas and I are still pricing these units so no prices for several more days. All I can say is that to expect the same low WSP prices.
In several days we will be posting PICs on our web site. I will post here to let you know when they are ready to go.

Dan WSP
Old 11-27-2001 | 09:49 PM
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that's awesome...thanks again Dan for everything you've done for the maxima aftermarket....
Old 11-27-2001 | 10:08 PM
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Very interesting! It's good to see I new product being made .
BTW when you list the prices and such could you also list the weight of this setup? Thanks.
Old 11-27-2001 | 10:24 PM
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Great. Guess this is another answer to my "any other ways to stiffen chassis" question. Hopefully it will be affordable.
Old 11-27-2001 | 10:43 PM
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Great. Guess this is another answer to my "any other ways to stiffen chassis" question. Hopefully it will be affordable.
I was just thinking 'ericdwong will love this'.

I know what my next handling mod is now too...
Old 11-28-2001 | 04:42 AM
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It would be interesting to know what kind of suspension/stiffening mods the candidates had during their testing..
Old 11-28-2001 | 04:59 AM
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This is great news! WHen will you have pics of it and pricing? THank god you prototyped one for the 4th gen.
Old 11-28-2001 | 05:09 AM
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Confused, that's a good question. On one of the cars it had aftermarket springs. I can't think of the brand but not Tokicos. The 3rd Gen car was stock as far as suspension goes. His car had a huge inprovement in handeling. How will your car do with them? We are anxiously awaiting further reviews. BTW these are so new Dallas hasn't been able to get me a set yet. Ever see your Christmas present under the tree but can't have it until Dec 25? Dang, I can't wait to try on my car which has struts/springs, FSTB, the only thing I don't have is the rear sway bar.
Also, they are pretty light, guestimation about 4 lbs for each side. We will be posting weights, length. And these are going to need to be welded on. Not a big job for anyone with a MIG welder and drive on hoist, not a 4 post hoist.
More to come later.

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Old 11-28-2001 | 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by Dan 93 SE
Confused, that's a good question. On one of the cars it had aftermarket springs. I can't think of the brand but not Tokicos. The 3rd Gen car was stock as far as suspension goes. His car had a huge inprovement in handeling. How will your car do with them? We are anxiously awaiting further reviews. BTW these are so new Dallas hasn't been able to get me a set yet. Ever see your Christmas present under the tree but can't have it until Dec 25? Dang, I can't wait to try on my car which has struts/springs, FSTB, the only thing I don't have is the rear sway bar.
Also, they are pretty light, guestimation about 4 lbs for each side. We will be posting weights, length. And these are going to need to be welded on. Not a big job for anyone with a MIG welder and drive on hoist, not a 4 post hoist.
More to come later.

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Hey, any word on your B-pipes & Catbacks yet?
Old 11-28-2001 | 06:11 AM
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Glad for you Dan. Maybe one of these days you guys will reply to emails. Until then I guess you won't get my business.

Originally posted by Dan 93 SE
WarpSpeedPerformance announces the upcoming release of sub frame connectors. We have worked hard on this project and they really help handling a lot. We have them on several cars, 3rd and 4th Gen. We will also be releasing them for the 5th Gen. as well in near future. The reports so far have been very positive. Here's
a brief sample from a 4th Gen. owner:
"My car now takes turns with more confidence. I have scared my girl friend on more than one occasion since the installation. It also makes the car more secure over
bumps. The rear deck now rattles much less over driveways and speed bumps.
All in all it was worth it. I like the way my car handles much better now."
The response from a 3rd Gen. owner was even more positive! I had an opportunity to ride in his car which has stock springs/struts. He can't believe how much this tightened up his handling and quieted down the little rattling noises you get when driving on an uneven road.
Dallas and I are still pricing these units so no prices for several more days. All I can say is that to expect the same low WSP prices.
In several days we will be posting PICs on our web site. I will post here to let you know when they are ready to go.

Dan WSP
Old 11-28-2001 | 06:15 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Glad for you Dan. Maybe one of these days you guys will reply to emails. Until then I guess you won't get my business.

Glad for you too Russ (whatever that means)

I never had any trouble with them replying to emails. If you're having problems, give them a call and they will talk to you or return your call. As you can tell from all the new stuff they're working on, they are pretty busy guys but when you catch either of them, they are both very friendly and helpful.

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Glad for you too Russ (whatever that means)

I never had any trouble with them replying to emails. If you're having problems, give them a call and they will talk to you or return your call. As you can tell from all the new stuff they're working on, they are pretty busy guys but when you catch either of them, they are both very friendly and helpful.

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When I send several and never get a response, that upsets me. Been tryng for a few months.

I don't have there #.
Old 11-28-2001 | 07:12 AM
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Re: WarpSpeedPerformance announces Sub Frame Connectors

How does this work in conjunction with the likes of FSTB/RSTB/RSB?
Are the effects cumalative or "less" when combined?

I currently have FSTB/RSB and eibach/tokico combination and I'm starting to hear some squeaks. I'm thinking of going to a softer spring to deal with rough roads but would still like the car stiffer.

Originally posted by Dan 93 SE
WarpSpeedPerformance announces the upcoming release of sub frame connectors. We have worked hard on this project and they really help handling a lot. We have them on several cars, 3rd and 4th Gen. We will also be releasing them for the 5th Gen. as well in near future. The reports so far have been very positive. Here's
a brief sample from a 4th Gen. owner:
"My car now takes turns with more confidence. I have scared my girl friend on more than one occasion since the installation. It also makes the car more secure over
bumps. The rear deck now rattles much less over driveways and speed bumps.
All in all it was worth it. I like the way my car handles much better now."
The response from a 3rd Gen. owner was even more positive! I had an opportunity to ride in his car which has stock springs/struts. He can't believe how much this tightened up his handling and quieted down the little rattling noises you get when driving on an uneven road.
Dallas and I are still pricing these units so no prices for several more days. All I can say is that to expect the same low WSP prices.
In several days we will be posting PICs on our web site. I will post here to let you know when they are ready to go.

Dan WSP
Old 11-28-2001 | 07:15 AM
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I don't have there #.

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Old 11-28-2001 | 07:28 AM
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I assume it's simliar to sub frame connectors for Mustangs. So the correct way to install them will require welding??
Old 11-28-2001 | 07:31 AM
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What's the material? What kind of finish? Painted or powdercoated?
Old 11-28-2001 | 09:29 AM
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Originally posted by Confused
It would be interesting to know what kind of suspension/stiffening mods the candidates had during their testing..
I think the more mods to suspension you have, the more 'twist' on the frame... with the exception of STBs.
Old 11-28-2001 | 09:58 AM
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I like how Dan used the comment from an owner to sell the product, "I scared the hell out of my girlfriend."
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Well, That is the same thing I went threw with Cattman. I know Dan personally, and Dallas. They are honest guys, and very busy. Maybe it just wasnt meant to be. Like me and Cattman.
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Thanks

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Old 11-28-2001 | 10:26 AM
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Well, That is the same thing I went threw with Cattman. I know Dan personally, and Dallas. They are honest guys, and very busy. Maybe it just wasnt meant to be. Like me and Cattman.
I know Dan and Dallas personally, I helped them a few times at meets, and we talked for a while. But when they don't respond to emails, that ****es me off.
Old 11-28-2001 | 03:30 PM
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I too would like to know if you will feel somthing if you have a front strut and rear sway? Will it be worth it? Or will it be better to do front and then your subfame with no RSB? I guess that depends on price... Sounds interesting though.
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It's also good to test it out in different regions first..

Originally posted by Dan 93 SE
Confused, that's a good question. On one of the cars it had aftermarket springs. I can't think of the brand but not Tokicos. The 3rd Gen car was stock as far as suspension goes. His car had a huge inprovement in handeling. How will your car do with them? We are anxiously awaiting further reviews. BTW these are so new Dallas hasn't been able to get me a set yet. Ever see your Christmas present under the tree but can't have it until Dec 25? Dang, I can't wait to try on my car which has struts/springs, FSTB, the only thing I don't have is the rear sway bar.
Also, they are pretty light, guestimation about 4 lbs for each side. We will be posting weights, length. And these are going to need to be welded on. Not a big job for anyone with a MIG welder and drive on hoist, not a 4 post hoist.
More to come later.

Dan WSP
Old 11-28-2001 | 05:51 PM
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When I send several and never get a response, that upsets me. Been tryng for a few months.

I don't have there #.
Russ:
The number is on our website, 866-801-9338 or 501-925-1660. I get about 100 emails each day, today for instance I spent at least 3 hours on the phone answering questions and taking orders.
Keep in mind if you ever had a power surge or wiped out a harddrive that it might happen to someone you might have sent an email to and they were not ignoring you, when I got hit by lightning 2 months ago it fused both my main and backup hard drives so I know it can happen.

We try to answer the basic questions on our website and answer most of the messages that are left for us. Every once in a while I get a message that the number is said so fast that even relistening to it gives me no clue as to who to call, had one the other day where the message box got full and they kept talking.

Anyway to answer your earlier question that I think Dan thought he sent me (I think he accidently deleted it, I keep telling him to ditch AOL), we are fitting the gen 5 Y pipe to a local car, as soon as we are certain the fit is perfect (if you leave or send your number) I will personally call you and let you know. The Gen 5 FED version is a one piece pipe unlike the Stillen and I suppose the other, I don't like slip flanges, I think those that used them did so so as to reduce the number of jigs they use, of course with the CA version it is needed. We plan to price them the same as our others.

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Old 11-28-2001 | 06:06 PM
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Thank you for the nice reply. I don't even know your websites address, I just know the email. Anyways, what about the CAI for the 5th gen? I also have a Calif so that is the model ypipe I am looking for.

Originally posted by bmfjeep

Russ:
The number is on our website, 866-801-9338 or 501-925-1660. I get about 100 emails each day, today for instance I spent at least 3 hours on the phone answering questions and taking orders.
Keep in mind if you ever had a power surge or wiped out a harddrive that it might happen to someone you might have sent an email to and they were not ignoring you, when I got hit by lightning 2 months ago it fused both my main and backup hard drives so I know it can happen.

We try to answer the basic questions on our website and answer most of the messages that are left for us. Every once in a while I get a message that the number is said so fast that even relistening to it gives me no clue as to who to call, had one the other day where the message box got full and they kept talking.

Anyway to answer your earlier question that I think Dan thought he sent me (I think he accidently deleted it, I keep telling him to ditch AOL), we are fitting the gen 5 Y pipe to a local car, as soon as we are certain the fit is perfect (if you leave or send your number) I will personally call you and let you know. The Gen 5 FED version is a one piece pipe unlike the Stillen and I suppose the other, I don't like slip flanges, I think those that used them did so so as to reduce the number of jigs they use, of course with the CA version it is needed. We plan to price them the same as our others.

Dallas
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I don't even know your websites address
www.warpspeedperformance.com

pretty complicated huh
Old 11-28-2001 | 07:52 PM
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www.warpspeedperformance.com

pretty complicated huh
uggg. smartass
Old 11-28-2001 | 08:44 PM
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WSP subframe connectors

A few more details. These will need to be welded in position. It's not a hard job for any one experienced using a MIG welder. Because you are welding close to floor of car we recommend either welding small beads and allowing for cooling, or to pull back carpet first.
We have talked a little about just painting them or getting them powder coated. P.C. will add some cost. I personally plan on getting mine welded in position and then spray painting them with some black paint. If there is a strong feeling towards powder coating them, we can use the same guy who does our CAIs.
Dallas had planned on posting more info including a testamonial from a 3rd gen owner and PICs, but aparently Arkansas is having a few inches of snow and his satellite dish is iced up, and he can't link up.If you want to see snow, just look out my window, 18" in last 36 hrs.
Dan WSP
Old 11-28-2001 | 08:54 PM
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Yuck, snow!! So where exactly do this go? Inside the car, where? trunk?
Im dumb
Old 11-28-2001 | 09:11 PM
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WSP subframes

I will try to explain it as best as I can without the luxury of a PIC. The connector will ly along side of the long rectangular metal hollow frame that runs on bottom side of car from under drivers and passengers feet to just in front of back wheels. To install, it will need to be welded at 4 places. These babies are made from very thick, hardened pipe, I can't remember gage. They are about 5 ft long. That's my best effort for now, the PICs that Dallas will post will clear up any questions.My guess at install time would be about 30 min.

Dan WSP
Old 11-28-2001 | 09:37 PM
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Kinda like this..

http://home1.gte.net/kbarney/confinished.jpg
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What kind of a car is that Mikey?
Old 11-29-2001 | 05:14 AM
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wsp sub frame

Thats a SHO Ford. We took their idea, and ran with it. Ours is a longer, and I believe stiffer frame. The SHOs were a pretty fast car, but there body sucked, lots of flex. Maximas also flex but not as much.

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Hmm seems my second question got ignored again.
Old 11-29-2001 | 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Hmm seems my second question got ignored again.
Maybe he didn't see it Russ, why don't you just pick up the phone and call them.
Old 11-29-2001 | 07:00 AM
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Maybe he didn't see it Russ, why don't you just pick up the phone and call them.
Thank you for saying it. Russ this thread is about sub frame connectors, not YOUR CAI, and not YOUR Y-Pipe, please stop whoring this thread......
Old 11-29-2001 | 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac
Hmm seems my second question got ignored again.
We are having stainless tubing bent for the CA gen 5 Y pipe, we are having tubing bent for the gen 5 CAI and plan to test install it shortly.

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I do not get a chance to keep up with the forum daily so if your post was missed it was simply missed.
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Re: Re: Re: WarpSpeedPerformance announces Sub Frame Connectors

Originally posted by GTRBlkMax97

I know what you mean, I was suppose to get a refund for the muffler shop bill when they said they would, this was back in the summer, I sent them the reciepts, which they said wasn't good enough, because there was a little white out on it, because I couldn't remember the exact dates of the trips to the shop, there y-pipe I bought had a hole in it, I called them and said if they wanted to pay for it the muffler shop would try to fix the problem but wouldn't be able to assure me that they could fix it. They tried, were unsucessful, so WSP sent me another y-pipe that had the same exact hole in the flex section. I sent it back, they said they would refund my purchase and the $200 dollar bill at the muffler shop, I have paid the muffler shop the 200 bucks yet have still not seen my refund, it's been over 6 months now, I am trying to get the reciepts with the correct date on them to send to WSP, but I think it may just be a waste of my time unless Dan or Dallas will prove me wrong. The reason I didn't have the right dates is because the muffler shop I go to I pay in cash everytime with no receipt because they know me from being there so much and the business I bring them from other people. Until i get my refund I will NOT buy anything from WSP, not even if they had a turbo kit, which I desperatly want right now. Anyways sorry for *****ing here, but I just had to speak my mind for a minute
Jonathan:
When we agreed to the repair of the missing 1" of weld (not a hole in your flex section)we said we needed a receipt showing: shop phone number, shop address and description of repairs. You sent me a copy of a receipt but there was no name, phone number, shop address or description of repair, just a hand written amount. You asked us to credit the repair to a credit card which you had not used to pay for the repairs with, in fact when I asked you via the phone you said you had not even paid for the repairs yet (4 months ago).

When I once again said we needed a proper receipt you sent me another 2 months later with none of the above and this time the amounts were hand written in, over a copy, where the amounts were whited out with correction fluid on the copy.

You told me your dad was an accountant, ask him what the IRS requires for a proper receipt. We trust people but we also know through experience that if one is getting something done for a cash deal there might be consequences especially since you knew what we required 6 months ago when we refunded the purchase and shipping costs, that is the best we can do.

We are sorry we were unable to meet your expectations, we do try very hard to make sure everyone is satisfied with our products.

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Old 11-29-2001 | 02:13 PM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: WarpSpeedPerformance announces Sub Frame Connectors

Originally posted by bmfjeep


We are sorry we were unable to meet your expectations, we do try very hard to make sure everyone is satisfied with our products.

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GTRBlkMax97 wasn't the only one to have issues with your Y-pipes. Myself, SprintMax and others had the same flex section problem. You even admitted that you had faulty flex section. I tried getting a replacement but after months of empty promises I realize I was getting nowhere.

In the end I bought a Cattman, and I've never been happier.

I realize your company was still pretty new when I ordered, and maybe you're a better company now. But that one truely negative experience will prevent me from ever buying from you. And I will share my experiences with anyone that wants to listen so that they won't have to go through the troubles I went through.

I know people have good experience and bad experiences, but it seems like your company has a lot of both.


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