5spd conversion or supercharger ?
12-16-2001, 11:24 AM
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5spd conversion or supercharger ?
I will be selling some things and saving up $$$, into early next year. I was saving up for a 5spd conversion, but after hearing the beautiful whine of the s/c on my friends lightning, and the power it gives, I am thinking about getting one. My question is, would it be possible to find a used V1 s/c for under 2,800 ? Feedback would be very helpful. 
12-16-2001, 11:53 AM
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Re: I say
Originally posted by BRIGBOY
supa charga...I don't know about finding one that cheap. But never know.
supa charga...I don't know about finding one that cheap. But never know.
Agreed Fords can get 'em for 2500, and honduh's even cheeper. Maxima is just too rare. We need more manufactorers to bring the prices down.
If only people would sell their s/c's as cheep as kirk, we could all get hooked up.
12-16-2001, 12:04 PM
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Re: Re: I say
Your probably gona need a new tranny after the SC is on for a while, so you can do them both. The stock auto trans cant take the extra hp generated by the SC. One of the guys i met fromt a meet in chicago is on his 3rd auto tranny, he did it right this time with the level ten.
12-16-2001, 12:15 PM
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Thanks for the feedback guys.
With the supercharger kit, does it come with all the upgrade parts for your engine ? Also, if I put a trans-go shift kit on my auto tranny (58k miles)right before the supercharger would be installed, would that be suffecient ?
With the supercharger kit, does it come with all the upgrade parts for your engine ? Also, if I put a trans-go shift kit on my auto tranny (58k miles)right before the supercharger would be installed, would that be suffecient ?
12-16-2001, 12:56 PM
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U can use the 5sp every time you get in the car. The supercharger is only going to help you when you ask for it. How many times during your every day driving do you think the maxima isnt fast enugh. If some one is faster than my max its because they paid at leaset 10k more so its fine with me that they can go faster and cut me off. 5sp is fun all the time.
12-16-2001, 12:58 PM
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Originally posted by fsumax
U can use the 5sp every time you get in the car. The supercharger is only going to help you when you ask for it. How many times during your every day driving do you think the maxima isnt fast enugh. If some one is faster than my max its because they paid at leaset 10k more so its fine with me that they can go faster and cut me off. 5sp is fun all the time.
U can use the 5sp every time you get in the car. The supercharger is only going to help you when you ask for it. How many times during your every day driving do you think the maxima isnt fast enugh. If some one is faster than my max its because they paid at leaset 10k more so its fine with me that they can go faster and cut me off. 5sp is fun all the time.
12-16-2001, 01:27 PM
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Originally posted by fsumax
U can use the 5sp every time you get in the car. The supercharger is only going to help you when you ask for it. How many times during your every day driving do you think the maxima isnt fast enugh. If some one is faster than my max its because they paid at leaset 10k more so its fine with me that they can go faster and cut me off. 5sp is fun all the time.
U can use the 5sp every time you get in the car. The supercharger is only going to help you when you ask for it. How many times during your every day driving do you think the maxima isnt fast enugh. If some one is faster than my max its because they paid at leaset 10k more so its fine with me that they can go faster and cut me off. 5sp is fun all the time.
12-16-2001, 01:30 PM
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Originally posted by OgreDave
HUH? Get a smaller pulley, the SC will be fun all the time. And out in CALI, im sorry. 5spd is NOT fun all the time. Ive been in traffic that ppl in other states would call parking lots.
HUH? Get a smaller pulley, the SC will be fun all the time. And out in CALI, im sorry. 5spd is NOT fun all the time. Ive been in traffic that ppl in other states would call parking lots.
12-16-2001, 03:13 PM
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Re: 5spd conversion or supercharger ?
Originally posted by Craig Mack
I will be selling some things and saving up $$$, into early next year. I was saving up for a 5spd conversion, but after hearing the beautiful whine of the s/c on my friends lightning, and the power it gives, I am thinking about getting one. My question is, would it be possible to find a used V1 s/c for under 2,800 ? Feedback would be very helpful.
I will be selling some things and saving up $$$, into early next year. I was saving up for a 5spd conversion, but after hearing the beautiful whine of the s/c on my friends lightning, and the power it gives, I am thinking about getting one. My question is, would it be possible to find a used V1 s/c for under 2,800 ? Feedback would be very helpful.
12-16-2001, 03:20 PM
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Re: Re: 5spd conversion or supercharger ?
Originally posted by Greg's2kGLE
Charge it man!!! :-+
Charge it man!!! :-+
Now all I gotta do is find one used,good and CHEEP. The odds of that are,well...
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12-16-2001, 03:58 PM
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Originally posted by fsumax
U can use the 5sp every time you get in the car. The supercharger is only going to help you when you ask for it. How many times during your every day driving do you think the maxima isnt fast enugh. If some one is faster than my max its because they paid at leaset 10k more so its fine with me that they can go faster and cut me off. 5sp is fun all the time.
U can use the 5sp every time you get in the car. The supercharger is only going to help you when you ask for it. How many times during your every day driving do you think the maxima isnt fast enugh. If some one is faster than my max its because they paid at leaset 10k more so its fine with me that they can go faster and cut me off. 5sp is fun all the time.
ok now all the automagics that are faster then me, flame away
12-16-2001, 04:06 PM
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Originally posted by hlh0501
The question is, do you want sheer power or do you want it to be more fun? I think in order to really be driving you need 5spd, thats why I converted...
ok now all the automagics that are faster then me, flame away
The question is, do you want sheer power or do you want it to be more fun? I think in order to really be driving you need 5spd, thats why I converted...
ok now all the automagics that are faster then me, flame away
I am saving up for either boost or Charles's conversion. Are you still running on your auto ECU ?
If these 2 options (s/c | 5spd) were the same price, I would take the boost in a heartbeat. I think most anyone would. But, the reality is the conversion is like 1/3rd the price of supercharging. (With connections anyways
)Hell, maybe I will get LUCKY and find some enthusiast selling off his V1 at a great price. A guy can at least dream, cant he ?
12-16-2001, 04:15 PM
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5 SPEED!!
look if you want the 5speed for the extra.5 sec in the 1/4 mile get the SC,if you want the 5speed cause you are a spirited driver get it,personally i wouldnt buy a autotragic maxima but if i was somehow landed with it i would 5speed it before i s/c'd itjust a lot more fun drivin a manual transmission car
look if you want the 5speed for the extra.5 sec in the 1/4 mile get the SC,if you want the 5speed cause you are a spirited driver get it,personally i wouldnt buy a autotragic maxima but if i was somehow landed with it i would 5speed it before i s/c'd itjust a lot more fun drivin a manual transmission car
12-16-2001, 04:27 PM
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OK, as a former 5 speed owner, I think I am unbiased towards trannies. I keep seeing people say that manuals are 'more fun'. I don't think that its fun. Could someone expand on what 'fun' is?
12-16-2001, 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
OK, as a former 5 speed owner, I think I am unbiased towards trannies. I keep seeing people say that manuals are 'more fun'. I don't think that its fun. Could someone expand on what 'fun' is?
OK, as a former 5 speed owner, I think I am unbiased towards trannies. I keep seeing people say that manuals are 'more fun'. I don't think that its fun. Could someone expand on what 'fun' is?
12-16-2001, 05:54 PM
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I don't have a 5spd but I do think they are more fun...
Originally posted by medicsonic
OK, as a former 5 speed owner, I think I am unbiased towards trannies. I keep seeing people say that manuals are 'more fun'. I don't think that its fun. Could someone expand on what 'fun' is?
OK, as a former 5 speed owner, I think I am unbiased towards trannies. I keep seeing people say that manuals are 'more fun'. I don't think that its fun. Could someone expand on what 'fun' is?
I think everything about a 5spd is more fun, it's just a matter of opinion, medicsonic.
Tough decision Craig. Since you have the money for a conversion for sure I say do that now and then save up until you can afford a V1. You will get more performance out of the supercharger with a manual. Also, right now you have the money to sell your automatic transmission; if it breaks from a supercharger, you won't.
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12-16-2001, 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
OK, as a former 5 speed owner, I think I am unbiased towards trannies. I keep seeing people say that manuals are 'more fun'. I don't think that its fun. Could someone expand on what 'fun' is?
OK, as a former 5 speed owner, I think I am unbiased towards trannies. I keep seeing people say that manuals are 'more fun'. I don't think that its fun. Could someone expand on what 'fun' is?
Damn... now I want a 5spd again.
12-16-2001, 07:25 PM
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Originally posted by Weasel
I personally think it's more fun because the stick allows you to keep the RPMs at the exact level you want for the conditions. The car feels like more of an extension of yourself than an automatic.
I personally think it's more fun because the stick allows you to keep the RPMs at the exact level you want for the conditions. The car feels like more of an extension of yourself than an automatic.
12-16-2001, 07:50 PM
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5spd conversion! If I could do it all over again, I would go for a 5spd conversion instead of buying a SC. Sure, with the SC, your car will be much faster. However, still having the auto tranny does have it drawbacks. An auto SC Maxima is still much slower compared to a 5spd SC Maxima. I know this first hand. Mardigrasmax has SC 5spd Maxima and I have(not for long) a SC auto Maxima. His car is easily faster then mine. Even a VB upgrade won't help much in the terms of performance, however it will help protect your auto tranny. It's really up to you. You could get a 5spd conversion and use the money you save to add NOS to your car. This was the route that I should have taken.
Or you could do what I'm trying to do. Sell the SC, rest of my mods, the car, and buy an used 300ZXTT or similar cars(RX7, Supra, or VR4).
Or you could do what I'm trying to do. Sell the SC, rest of my mods, the car, and buy an used 300ZXTT or similar cars(RX7, Supra, or VR4).
12-16-2001, 07:57 PM
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5spd conversion! If I could do it all over again, I would go for a 5spd conversion instead of buying a SC. Sure, with the SC, your car will be much faster. However, still having the auto tranny does have it drawbacks. An auto SC Maxima is still much slower compared to a 5spd SC Maxima. I know this first hand. Mardigrasmax has SC 5spd Maxima and I have(not for long) a SC auto Maxima. His car is easily faster then mine. Even a VB upgrade won't help much in the terms of performance, however it will help protect your auto tranny. It's really up to you. You could get a 5spd conversion and use the money you save to add NOS to your car. This was the route that I should have taken.
Or you could do what I'm trying to do. Sell the SC, rest of my mods, the car, and buy an used 300ZXTT or similar cars(RX7, Supra, or VR4).)
5spd conversion! If I could do it all over again, I would go for a 5spd conversion instead of buying a SC. Sure, with the SC, your car will be much faster. However, still having the auto tranny does have it drawbacks. An auto SC Maxima is still much slower compared to a 5spd SC Maxima. I know this first hand. Mardigrasmax has SC 5spd Maxima and I have(not for long) a SC auto Maxima. His car is easily faster then mine. Even a VB upgrade won't help much in the terms of performance, however it will help protect your auto tranny. It's really up to you. You could get a 5spd conversion and use the money you save to add NOS to your car. This was the route that I should have taken.
Or you could do what I'm trying to do. Sell the SC, rest of my mods, the car, and buy an used 300ZXTT or similar cars(RX7, Supra, or VR4).)
Do you have the V1 Supercharger ? Is that bird sold ?
12-16-2001, 08:05 PM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Well, my friend has a lightning (auto, they all are) and its amazing. Well I guess the 380horses don't hurt...
Do you have the V1 Supercharger ?
Is that bird sold ?
Well, my friend has a lightning (auto, they all are) and its amazing. Well I guess the 380horses don't hurt...
Do you have the V1 Supercharger ? Is that bird sold ?
Most domestic cars have a pretty good auto tranny. I used to have two domestic cars and both auto tranny seem to respond better then the Maxima tranny.
The SC I have is a V2 with a 3.125 pulley which gives me about 10psi of boost. The SC is sold, just need to remove it from my car to the buyer's car. The car isn't sold yet, I still have to sell off the remaining mods first.
So, what are you going to do? 5spd conversion or SC?
12-16-2001, 09:49 PM
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i see what your sayin about the SVT lightning,maybe even a GTP or even a Grand national,but those cars were not available in manual and if they were,it would probably be the same debate,why would you get a GTP auto if you can opt for the GTP 5spd?know what im sayin
12-16-2001, 09:53 PM
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Some one was saying that 5sp are not fun in heavy traffic. I go to school in the capital of florida. At 4-6pm traffic is nutz. There are 3 universities and a zillion govt. workers all cramming the crappy streets. Its very hilly ( for florida). Very stop and go up and down hill. Then when ever I go home on the interstate over breaks there is inevitably an accident that takes 45 min at least of stop and go traffic to get threw b/c of all the rubber neckers. I never have found the 5sp to get annoying or old even in this traffic. You jsut get used to it. You have to figure EVERY time you get in the car and want to move an inch you have to use the clutch and the stick. It just gets 2nd nature you never think about it. It really isnt a pain in the *** in my oppinion. Its like if pedals were an option people would say that its so annoying in stop and go traffic to have to keep pushing differnt pedals.
....And to the question of what is fun about a 5sp.
I had a 90integra 5sp for over 2 years, then a auto 94 accord for a year and then my max 5sp. After driving the auto i never wanted to drive one again. I setled for my ugly *** gold base gxe when I could have had a loaded se auto in any color just cuz i had to have the 5sp. Whats fun is leaving it in 2nd when you are driving normally and then mashing the gass. Its just fun not waiting for the kickdown of an auto. Reving and double clutching is fun. If i had smaller feet heel toe shifiting would be fun. Its just more involving in general. But I dont frown on auto drivers. My moms has an auto camery she loves it. My dad has a 00 SE auto. Its fun to drive but not as fun as my 96 5sp.
....And to the question of what is fun about a 5sp.
I had a 90integra 5sp for over 2 years, then a auto 94 accord for a year and then my max 5sp. After driving the auto i never wanted to drive one again. I setled for my ugly *** gold base gxe when I could have had a loaded se auto in any color just cuz i had to have the 5sp. Whats fun is leaving it in 2nd when you are driving normally and then mashing the gass. Its just fun not waiting for the kickdown of an auto. Reving and double clutching is fun. If i had smaller feet heel toe shifiting would be fun
. Its just more involving in general. But I dont frown on auto drivers. My moms has an auto camery she loves it. My dad has a 00 SE auto. Its fun to drive but not as fun as my 96 5sp.
12-17-2001, 08:13 AM
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Cumalot, all the car mags have given the Maxima's transmission an excellent rating (or full circle).
after hearing what my fellow maxima.org brothers are saying, 5spd is the way to go. I live in the sanford area,(florida) and take I-4 to maitland everyday to school. Mourning traffic is not fun. But, I don't think it would get tedious
but I also DONT like the idea that I will have to move both feet just to move my car an inch. No more creeping at idle. ... 
I am also afraid that I will miss a gear, roll back and hit someone, and MOSTLY stall out in the middle of the road
I don't think you could financially compare a 5spd conversion to s/c. A s/c kit would cost me almost 3x what a 5spd conversion would.
Damn life and it's decisions...
after hearing what my fellow maxima.org brothers are saying, 5spd is the way to go. I live in the sanford area,(florida) and take I-4 to maitland everyday to school. Mourning traffic is not fun. But, I don't think it would get tedious
but I also DONT like the idea that I will have to move both feet just to move my car an inch. No more creeping at idle. ... I am also afraid that I will miss a gear, roll back and hit someone, and MOSTLY stall out in the middle of the road
I don't think you could financially compare a 5spd conversion to s/c. A s/c kit would cost me almost 3x what a 5spd conversion would.
Damn life and it's decisions...
12-17-2001, 10:14 AM
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Originally posted by Craig Mack
Cumalot, all the car mags have given the Maxima's transmission an excellent rating (or full circle).
after hearing what my fellow maxima.org brothers are saying, 5spd is the way to go. I live in the sanford area,(florida) and take I-4 to maitland everyday to school. Mourning traffic is not fun. But, I don't think it would get tedious but I also DONT like the idea that I will have to move both feet just to move my car an inch. No more creeping at idle. ...
I am also afraid that I will miss a gear, roll back and hit someone, and MOSTLY stall out in the middle of the road
I don't think you could financially compare a 5spd conversion to s/c. A s/c kit would cost me almost 3x what a 5spd conversion would.
Damn life and it's decisions...
Cumalot, all the car mags have given the Maxima's transmission an excellent rating (or full circle).
after hearing what my fellow maxima.org brothers are saying, 5spd is the way to go. I live in the sanford area,(florida) and take I-4 to maitland everyday to school. Mourning traffic is not fun. But, I don't think it would get tedious
but I also DONT like the idea that I will have to move both feet just to move my car an inch. No more creeping at idle. ... I am also afraid that I will miss a gear, roll back and hit someone, and MOSTLY stall out in the middle of the road
I don't think you could financially compare a 5spd conversion to s/c. A s/c kit would cost me almost 3x what a 5spd conversion would.
Damn life and it's decisions...
as far as running into people and stalling out and all that... i dont think u should worry too much... that is all mastered with practice, and if u drive your car every day, then it wont be long till stalling out and missing gears is a thing of the past. anyways, i live in a small city where driving down town is VERY stop and go, and i never once wish i had an automatic...
12-17-2001, 12:14 PM
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Here is an instance everybody
Originally posted by ShortT
as far as running into people and stalling out and all that... i dont think u should worry too much... that is all mastered with practice, and if u drive your car every day, then it wont be long till stalling out and missing gears is a thing of the past. anyways, i live in a small city where driving down town is VERY stop and go, and i never once wish i had an automatic...
as far as running into people and stalling out and all that... i dont think u should worry too much... that is all mastered with practice, and if u drive your car every day, then it wont be long till stalling out and missing gears is a thing of the past. anyways, i live in a small city where driving down town is VERY stop and go, and i never once wish i had an automatic...
We can go to Jacksonville and have Cbr2 swap 'em for us. Hey shortT and everyone, here is an example of when I feel stick would get very annoying, no ? :: 'Say you just got gas, well as you start up your car and go, you are at the limit of first gear and shift into second, but the stop sign is right there! What do you do ? I feel my auto shifting into second right before I jam the breaks. This applies to all short-stop and go situations. Can you start off in second gear ? I find my tranny searching for gears after it shifts and I stop. Oh, please share your knowledge, you lucky 5spd people you!
12-17-2001, 01:07 PM
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Craig, like I said, get the 5spd conversion and spend the rest on NOS. SC is great and all, but NOS is cheaper plus it might even be faster. Look at sx7r for example. His car could take out most, if not all SC Maximas on here. The only drawback to NOS is you have to get the bottle refill once in awhile.
The only drawback to NOS is you have to get the bottle refill once in awhile.
12-17-2001, 01:31 PM
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Which also raises the question, just how many good NOS runs can you have without needing a refill? Anybody know how many 1/4 mile runs the average NOS tank is good for before it needs a refill? How much does it cost to refill it anyways? (Sorry, but after all i am a newbie when it comes to NOS, but after looking at the prices of the S/C and possible Turbo, it might be the way i'm heading, after i get a 5sp conversion going on).
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12-17-2001, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by RastaManMax
Which also raises the question, just how many good NOS runs can you have without needing a refill? Anybody know how many 1/4 mile runs the average NOS tank is good for before it needs a refill? How much does it cost to refill it anyways? (Sorry, but after all i am a newbie when it comes to NOS, but after looking at the prices of the S/C and possible Turbo, it might be the way i'm heading, after i get a 5sp conversion going on).
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Which also raises the question, just how many good NOS runs can you have without needing a refill? Anybody know how many 1/4 mile runs the average NOS tank is good for before it needs a refill? How much does it cost to refill it anyways? (Sorry, but after all i am a newbie when it comes to NOS, but after looking at the prices of the S/C and possible Turbo, it might be the way i'm heading, after i get a 5sp conversion going on).
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12-17-2001, 09:08 PM
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Originally posted by CHI99Limited
Your probably gona need a new tranny after the SC is on for a while, so you can do them both. The stock auto trans cant take the extra hp generated by the SC. One of the guys i met fromt a meet in chicago is on his 3rd auto tranny, he did it right this time with the level ten.
Your probably gona need a new tranny after the SC is on for a while, so you can do them both. The stock auto trans cant take the extra hp generated by the SC. One of the guys i met fromt a meet in chicago is on his 3rd auto tranny, he did it right this time with the level ten.
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