Ok so there is this guy that I know that has just bought an 01 Caddy STS. Whats the deal with these? He wants to race my buddy in his 98 SE and me in my 97 I30. I rode in the STS last night, and its so cushy I don't see it really cooking up the road. Are there any thoughts about this car and it's performance? I know it has 300+ HP and its an auto with T/C and we are both 5 speeds with Y pipes.

 

you have a 5spd I30? wow i have more respect for you now

hmm.. should be a good race..

 

Definitely an interesting race although you better not miss a beat when shifting gears or you'll be eaten up quickly.

 

was there a manual option on the I30's?

 

yeah.. but the Maxima's had 95% made Auto's.. and the I30's were like 99% Production Auto's.. so they are VERY VERY RARE..

its like seeing a Ferrari F40 on the road.. actualy 5spd I30's are more rare than that..

 

alright, thanks. i always thought they didn't even exist. learn something new every hour

 

yeah Emax had one.. it was supercharged

 

The caddy will win IMO.

 

The Caddy will shoot to 60MpH possibly a little slower than yourselves, however its 1/4 mile is significantly slower (15.2 sec.). And lets not overlook the fact that the Caddy is very new to your friend, and I'm sure you are quite aquianted with your I30. I'm sure you know your car's limits better than your friend knows his.
-Cyrus

 

The car will kill any year Maxima except the 2k2's....That car is fast.

Of course this is stock for stock.

 

I've race my brothers Deville 300hp at highway speeds it pulls away quite nicely. 300hp to your 190hp.

 

The Cadillac will prolly pull 0-60 in approx 6.5s. That's a tough race for a 5-spd 4th or 5th gen, even with Ypipe. Should be very even if you shift perfectly. If not, the consistency of the automatic will help the STS win.

I drove an STS at the "Cadillac Challenge" sponsored by Motortrend. Pretty good power (well, can't complain about 300hp) and decent handling. The car actually handled pretty well, but the steering was so loose and devoid of feeling I actually preferred the Lincoln LS (with 50 less hp) because it had super sharp steering.

 

I was at my girlfriends house a couple days ago and her little brother and some friends were outside, and one of them happened to be driving mommy's new STS. The kid challenged me, and of course I had to accept. We went up to an empty street and he had 2 in his car and I had 3 people. His 3rd guy got out to start us. We did 2 runs and in the first run I handed him his a$$ pretty good. I got a good launch...we went all the way up to 80 before slowing down, and by then I had about 3 carlengths on him. He was never pulling on me at all. The 2nd run I spun the wheels really bad so he beat me off the line but after that I closed it and before we had to shut it down his nose was at my tail. I have a 2000 5 speed with stillen intake and fedspec y-pipe, with the 17" rubber. So from my experience, the STS can't hang with my maxima. If you've got a y-pipe too, I'd say definitely give him a run. If you can drive, you'll beat him.

 

I had a 2k auto max with CAI, when I ran a friend who had a rented one with the big northstar v8. We ran highway style like 5 times, every time he pulled away from me!! Ugly actually!

 

I thought all STS's had the northstar engine....I know the one I raced did.

 

No the 1992 STS had the 4.9 OHV engine. IMHO I thought it was a great engine, although lacking in high-end power

My friends 93 Eldorado ELC with 130K miles on it (SLS equivalant with the northstar 4.6L but makes 275HP and 295TQ) and he will walk on me like nothing from stand start. On a roll from like 30mph, he starts to slowly walk on me but then his engine winds up to the sweet spot and he murders me. BUT, from 95mph on, he is just shifting into 3rd gear and out of the meat of his powerband, we are dead even until I walk away when he hits his governor at 112mph. The gears are tall on those things that everytime it shifts, it takes a couple of seconds to get back into the meat of the power.

The STS though, is a different story. From magazines, the newer STS's are slower than the older STS's, both with the northstar engine. Still, top speed for both cars exceed 150mph and acceleration above these speeds is awesome!

 

Thats what I'm saying. I don't care about mag times 0-60 this 1/4 that....out on the highway the Caddy has tons of power and will rock a lot of cars. A 5spd with intake and Y-pipe would be close!

 

I had a 95'STS with the same 300hp engine and so on....It was pretty damn fast for something thats close to 4000ibds. U'll not be wasting time if u ran with it.

 

Dont miss a shift because those things are torque monsters down low and have a lot of pull!

 

You should be able to beat him, but you won't wax the floor with him unless you get NOS or a S/C.

 

Like some of the fellas are saying, if you don't miss a beat when shifting, you may win. Otherwise, the Caddy will be gone.

 

if you drive extremely hard and fast, you will not look bad even though you loose. If you drive lousy, it will be, well, ugly.

 

I rented a DeVille for a week late last yr (only 270 hp Northstar) - that thing really haulled a$$ from 30-90. It was pretty slow off the line, but that great V8 growl was music to my ears.

Only problem was that the car had cooling system problems after only 1500 mi (they were there before I left the airport, honest)

 

Caddy Northstar =

If I had a lil bit more money I would have bought a '99 black STS put 19" Lowenharts on it... *drool* beautiful

 

Well, we ran and it's done with. We even switched cars for a run just to play... This is what we discovered:
Off the line, the I30 rules. Remember I have a 5 speed and LSD/with stock rims. His Trac Control ate up so much of his power. 2nd gear he pulled a little closer, and he just gained everytime I shifted, I need to get a short shifter. 3rd it started to even out, he wasn't gaining and I wasn't walking. 4th, he started to slowly pull again and thats when we saw 2 cops in a parking lot with their lights off.

By the end of our first run, he had almost caught up.
2nd run I did a little better I kept him at my tail lights at the end (110mph).
If we had more time and more road, he would've had me. So thats why I must keep modding.


I think I could've done better if my car was at his elevation for longer (I live at sea level and we were racing at 5000ft. How long does it take your ECU to compensate for the elevation (lack of air)).

 

My buddy has a 95 Deville(non-Northstar) and and thinks he'll take me up top. Mind you that we lined up on a street in his town rolling at about 30MPH. We gunned it and I was surely leaving him. He had the power but to much weight. I still think I would keep him at bay even over 90.

 

[QUOTE]Originally posted by SLC I30t
Well, we ran and it's done with. We even switched cars for a run just to play... This is what we discovered:
Off the line, the I30 rules. Remember I have a 5 speed and LSD/with stock rims. His Trac Control ate up so much of his power. 2nd gear he pulled a little closer, and he just gained everytime I shifted, I need to get a short shifter. 3rd it started to even out, he wasn't gaining and I wasn't walking. 4th, he started to slowly pull again and thats when we saw 2 cops in a parking lot with their lights off. {/quote]

You mean to tell me that your friend can't turn off is TC? If so, that's weird.

Weight reduction helps too.

 

That's what 2k2's are for A little 255HP sweetness on his heavy 300HP butt.

Stereodude

 

I remember seeing a a switch for the TC, but I Guess he thought that he would have a better launch with it on. When I drove the STS, I didn't have any wheel spin, just a lazy thrust into the next zip code.

I would imagine if he did turn it off he would've had so much wheelspin that I may have gotten further away from him. But I don't think he I could've kept him off me at the higher speeds. I still don't know why someone would buy a caddy, its GM.

 

I would

 

Well, I was going to buy the STS before I got the Max and a person that owned one talk me out of it. 50,000 and they're done.

 

Sure you would

 

yup I would, my family has had good experiences with Caddys, now the STS especially the previous gen and the 98 models had more than their fair share of problems, the 99-00 models have done much better.
My friends family just bought a '01 SLS and they have had no problems with it
I wouldnt hesitate to buy GM, I just would avoid certain models

like deezo I almost bought a black '99 with 19"s but I didnt because I paid with my Maxima cash and I didnt wana have to pay off a loan for buying the caddy

 

I was going for a Black 95 or 96 STS.