Fully N/A modded 4th gen 5-speed loses to 4th gen AUTO....
01-09-2002, 11:05 PM
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Fully N/A modded 4th gen 5-speed loses to 4th gen AUTO....
So my car is pretty much back up to speed....not quite as quick as it used to be. I ran MAX2000JP(5th gen 5-speed, intake and y-pipe) today from 40-100 and we were pretty much even. (I used to pull on him about a car.)
I also ran his brother Chi99Limited (99 SE-L AUTO with intake and y-pipe) and I got KILLED...2 FREAKIN TIMES!!! One time from a 20 roll...and once from a dead stop. The time from a 20 roll we were even through the top of first....shifted to second...door to door...and he just stared pulling...he had about 1.5-2 cars on my by the time we hit 100.....I was amazed!
So then we ran from a light....I got about a car jump out of the light...and pulled maybe another car in first....he then proceeded to reel me in...and by 90 mph he was passing me like I wasn't moving....WTF!!!!!
before you guys go saying I don't know how to drive or shift...take into consideration that I've been to the track...and ran mid 14's N/A like most modded 5-speeds should...I DO know how to drive...ask anybody in the midwest forum who has been to a chicago meet....
I wanna know WTF happened here.....if his car is really faster...than he has a low 14 second 4th gen AUTO with only intake and y-pipe...and that's unheard of...hell a HIGH 14 second auto is unheard of.
I also ran his brother Chi99Limited (99 SE-L AUTO with intake and y-pipe) and I got KILLED...2 FREAKIN TIMES!!! One time from a 20 roll...and once from a dead stop. The time from a 20 roll we were even through the top of first....shifted to second...door to door...and he just stared pulling...he had about 1.5-2 cars on my by the time we hit 100.....I was amazed!
So then we ran from a light....I got about a car jump out of the light...and pulled maybe another car in first....he then proceeded to reel me in...and by 90 mph he was passing me like I wasn't moving....WTF!!!!!
before you guys go saying I don't know how to drive or shift...take into consideration that I've been to the track...and ran mid 14's N/A like most modded 5-speeds should...I DO know how to drive...ask anybody in the midwest forum who has been to a chicago meet....
I wanna know WTF happened here.....if his car is really faster...than he has a low 14 second 4th gen AUTO with only intake and y-pipe...and that's unheard of...hell a HIGH 14 second auto is unheard of.
01-09-2002, 11:09 PM
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Maybe you forgot to release your parking brake? 
Seriously, maybe there's something wrong with your car. No way an automagic should beat you with just intake and ypipe.
Best thing to do is to run him again and see what happen. Maybe it's just one of those days/nights?
Seriously, maybe there's something wrong with your car. No way an automagic should beat you with just intake and ypipe.
Best thing to do is to run him again and see what happen. Maybe it's just one of those days/nights?
01-09-2002, 11:19 PM
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Originally posted by Cumalot
Maybe you forgot to release your parking brake?
Seriously, maybe there's something wrong with your car. No way an automagic should beat you with just intake and ypipe.
Best thing to do is to run him again and see what happen. Maybe it's just one of those days/nights?
Maybe you forgot to release your parking brake?
Seriously, maybe there's something wrong with your car. No way an automagic should beat you with just intake and ypipe.
Best thing to do is to run him again and see what happen. Maybe it's just one of those days/nights?
01-09-2002, 11:23 PM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
yea...maybe...but no more than 5 minutes later I ran his brother is a MODDED 5th gen 5-speed...and we were dead even...
yea...maybe...but no more than 5 minutes later I ran his brother is a MODDED 5th gen 5-speed...and we were dead even...
You ever raced the 99SE-L auto before this time? What was the result if you did race him?
Very weird, I can't come up with an explanation. You sure all he had was an intake and ypipe? He must be one of the fastest NA auto if he is as fast as you say he is.
01-09-2002, 11:31 PM
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Originally posted by Cumalot
You ever raced the 99SE-L auto before this time? What was the result if you did race him?
Very weird, I can't come up with an explanation. You sure all he had was an intake and ypipe? He must be one of the fastest NA auto if he is as fast as you say he is.
You ever raced the 99SE-L auto before this time? What was the result if you did race him?
Very weird, I can't come up with an explanation. You sure all he had was an intake and ypipe? He must be one of the fastest NA auto if he is as fast as you say he is.
and NO I didn't use NOS when i raced him....he would have been toast...
01-09-2002, 11:48 PM
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Originally posted by Cumalot
Hm...if no NOS, then he got to have more mods than just an intake and ypipe. If not, then I would sure love to hear from him how he did it.
Hm...if no NOS, then he got to have more mods than just an intake and ypipe. If not, then I would sure love to hear from him how he did it.
01-10-2002, 12:02 AM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
he claims his car is a factory freak....cuz he can beat his brothers modded 5th gen 5-speed...and my modded 4th gen 5-speed....he did race a modded 95 auto last spring and pulled on him....and we always wondered how he did it....
he claims his car is a factory freak....cuz he can beat his brothers modded 5th gen 5-speed...and my modded 4th gen 5-speed....he did race a modded 95 auto last spring and pulled on him....and we always wondered how he did it....
Well, that could explains it. They are a few auto factory freaks on this board too. Medicsonic and Deezo come to mind. Too bad mine isn't one.
Still though, factory freak or not, pulling on a modded 5spd 4th gen is impressive.
01-10-2002, 06:16 AM
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Hey Brian, first off let me say I'm sorry for not contacting you in Colorado, but my phone died short after I got off the phone with you on New Year's eve. Second I want a crack at this guy just not on the street, because for a Wheaton cop got me for speeding this morning so I refuse to go fast on the road for some time now. Hey let's take everyone to the track and I'll find a way to beat him. Better yet lets get Neal to race him. 
The way Neal get's things done none of us have a chance. I'll call you soon as I get cought up with my crap. I hate going to school and working, too much stuff to do! Take care!
The way Neal get's things done none of us have a chance. I'll call you soon as I get cought up with my crap. I hate going to school and working, too much stuff to do! Take care!
01-10-2002, 07:01 AM
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what did you dyno again? i think you got one of them freaks too..
Originally posted by max7
Hey Brian, first off let me say I'm sorry for not contacting you in Colorado, but my phone died short after I got off the phone with you on New Year's eve. Second I want a crack at this guy just not on the street, because for a Wheaton cop got me for speeding this morning so I refuse to go fast on the road for some time now. Hey let's take everyone to the track and I'll find a way to beat him. Better yet lets get Neal to race him. The way Neal get's things done none of us have a chance. I'll call you soon as I get cought up with my crap. I hate going to school and working, too much stuff to do! Take care!
Hey Brian, first off let me say I'm sorry for not contacting you in Colorado, but my phone died short after I got off the phone with you on New Year's eve. Second I want a crack at this guy just not on the street, because for a Wheaton cop got me for speeding this morning so I refuse to go fast on the road for some time now. Hey let's take everyone to the track and I'll find a way to beat him. Better yet lets get Neal to race him.
The way Neal get's things done none of us have a chance. I'll call you soon as I get cought up with my crap. I hate going to school and working, too much stuff to do! Take care!
01-10-2002, 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
As I have said before and will say again, on the street the tranny means little. I can pick a situation where a stock auto can beat a SCed manual. Just have to have the right settings.
As I have said before and will say again, on the street the tranny means little. I can pick a situation where a stock auto can beat a SCed manual. Just have to have the right settings.
Bri, i have no idea wtf is going on but that is unheard of!
01-10-2002, 08:50 AM
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Originally posted by medicsonic
As I have said before and will say again, on the street the tranny means little. I can pick a situation where a stock auto can beat a SCed manual. Just have to have the right settings.
As I have said before and will say again, on the street the tranny means little. I can pick a situation where a stock auto can beat a SCed manual. Just have to have the right settings.
01-10-2002, 09:29 AM
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I am telling you man.. get that baby dyno'ed thats the only way to tell
Originally posted by BriGuyMax
his car was CLEARLY faster than both my 5-speed and MAX2000JP's 5-speed...the only way I can see a stock auto being able to beat a S/Ced 5-speed is either on a slippery surface or the 5-speed driver's first time behind the wheel of a manual automobile.
his car was CLEARLY faster than both my 5-speed and MAX2000JP's 5-speed...the only way I can see a stock auto being able to beat a S/Ced 5-speed is either on a slippery surface or the 5-speed driver's first time behind the wheel of a manual automobile.
01-10-2002, 10:05 AM
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Re: Secret
Originally posted by njmaxseltd
Us SE-L owners have a little seceret you guys just don't know about.
Us SE-L owners have a little seceret you guys just don't know about.
01-10-2002, 10:18 AM
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Originally posted by BriGuyMax
his car was CLEARLY faster than both my 5-speed and MAX2000JP's 5-speed...the only way I can see a stock auto being able to beat a S/Ced 5-speed is either on a slippery surface or the 5-speed driver's first time behind the wheel of a manual automobile.
his car was CLEARLY faster than both my 5-speed and MAX2000JP's 5-speed...the only way I can see a stock auto being able to beat a S/Ced 5-speed is either on a slippery surface or the 5-speed driver's first time behind the wheel of a manual automobile.
01-10-2002, 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by emax95
MegaMax put down 196 FWHP in a NA 4th gen,
MegaMax put down 196 FWHP in a NA 4th gen,
01-10-2002, 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
What does MAX2000JP (with intake and y-pipe) run at the track including 60' and trap speed? You say your car isn't running up to par and it possible MAX2000JP car isn't either. Please post up the numbers.
What does MAX2000JP (with intake and y-pipe) run at the track including 60' and trap speed? You say your car isn't running up to par and it possible MAX2000JP car isn't either. Please post up the numbers.
01-10-2002, 10:30 AM
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Originally posted by SprintMax
Brian runs 14.5@94 with 2.2 60ft and MAX2000JP runs 15.3@90 with 2.3 60ft
Brian runs 14.5@94 with 2.2 60ft and MAX2000JP runs 15.3@90 with 2.3 60ft
01-10-2002, 10:32 AM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
What does he run at the track to back that dyno up? As we know there are varied dyno number coming out from various shops across north america. He should be running mid 14's with that power! That is 2k2 (heavier) auto power!
What does he run at the track to back that dyno up? As we know there are varied dyno number coming out from various shops across north america. He should be running mid 14's with that power! That is 2k2 (heavier) auto power!
He ran 14.3 NA on his 5spd 4th gen back in the day.
01-10-2002, 10:34 AM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy
And they are equal on the street? I assume Brian's car is now slower than when he ran that 14.5? MAX2000JP trap speed seems low?? And that is his best run?
And they are equal on the street? I assume Brian's car is now slower than when he ran that 14.5? MAX2000JP trap speed seems low?? And that is his best run?
