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Old 08-21-2013, 07:28 AM
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4th gen maxima @ Lemons part deux

Link to the original thread: http://forums.maxima.org/general-max...ma-lemons.html

Now under new ownership! (see specs below pictures)

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Modifications
KYB AGX struts
Tein S. Tech springs
APEXi N1 muffler (looks to be stock piping)
5Zigen FN01RC wheels; 17x9 +35
Toyo Proxes R888 tires; 225 45 R17
Welded Roll Cage
Kirkey Racing Seat
Battery relocated to trunk

We'll be taking it out to Thunderhill this Fri for testing at the Grip Drift Skid 12 track day (http://gripdriftskid.com/).
UPDATE: GDS 12 track day was a blast, but ended early due to issues with a wheel bearing.

The next Lemons race is on Sept 14 - 15, also @ Thunderhill

More to come!

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Old 08-21-2013, 08:00 AM
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Oh snap! That is awesome, I hope you guys kick butt!
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BRE has a great Nissan/Datsun history. Love this! GL at the lemon races!!!
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This is awesome! Whose car was that previously? What all is done to it?
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Looks so sick. Love the paint. Still has a VQ30DE?
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Looks like a blast. Wonder if there's any footage of it racing...
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Post more info on it and video of it driving. I like the car.
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Here are some pics/videos that were linked in the original thread:

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At Sonoma in 2010
Source: Jalopnik


Various in-car videos from different races
http://www.youtube.com/user/olaafr/videos (scroll to the bottom)


Finally, the best video I've seen so far:
Fast forward to 10:40 to see the Maxima duke it out with a Porsche 928 for a good NINE MINUTES.

POV is from the 928, read more about it here:
http://forums.24hoursoflemons.com/viewtopic.php?id=1873
http://jalopnik.com/5413294/whats-it...shooting-brake


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Some pics from the event on 8/23:
Video coming soon!

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A bit of Lemon-gineering after we lost a hood pin:
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Done for the day -- we had to end it a bit early to conduct a few repairs:
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this is pretty nice. Hard to believe but 4th gens are actually little rockets in the Lemons series. many claim they will run top 10 times with a good driver easily.


If that is the same maxima from earlier lemons races i thought the car(and team for that matter) was banned from lemons i was just reading up on the crash it had where it flipped a Cavalier. I think there would have been a few more maximas in Lemons if it wasnt for that incident because they were the first to run a 4th gen and it showed a lot of promise for being a consistently quick car.

http://forums.24hoursoflemons.com/viewtopic.php?id=3866
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Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I was not aware of this incident. I believe this is indeed the same car. I have just contacted Jay - we'll see what he has to say

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If that is the same maxima from earlier lemons races i thought the car(and team for that matter) was banned from lemons i was just reading up on the crash it had where it flipped a Cavalier. I think there would have been a few more maximas in Lemons if it wasnt for that incident because they were the first to run a 4th gen and it showed a lot of promise for being a consistently quick car.

http://forums.24hoursoflemons.com/viewtopic.php?id=3866
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Originally Posted by Rich_MadMaxLemon
Thank you for bringing this to my attention, I was not aware of this incident. I believe this is indeed the same car. I have just contacted Jay - we'll see what he has to say
He might let it go because its been a couple of years, the car was suppose to have been crushed but oddly they sparred it. Since then they have been a little anti-maxima because they had a hard time dealing with that particular set of people so you might face a little animosity. But the quickest cars on the track in shear straight line power when that thing was running was it, the Porsche 928 and a V8 swapped Volvo. i would love to see what happens when an 00vi is thrown ontop of it.
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Good news, Jay says the car's in!

I know you guys are interested in what she's got, I'll update the original post with a list of the car's mods.

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He might let it go because its been a couple of years, the car was suppose to have been crushed but oddly they sparred it. Since then they have been a little anti-maxima because they had a hard time dealing with that particular set of people so you might face a little animosity. But the quickest cars on the track in shear straight line power when that thing was running was it, the Porsche 928 and a V8 swapped Volvo. i would love to see what happens when an 00vi is thrown ontop of it.
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How does it ride with the s-tech's on the track? Plans for 00vi?
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Originally Posted by carsnwomen91
How does it ride with the s-tech's on the track? Plans for 00vi?
The car feels fine with the s-techs. Not too bouncy. The AGX shocks they're paired up with are stiff enough to help reduce some of the roll.

I've never driven one with the stock suspension, so I couldn't tell you how much of an improvement it would be.

Tell me more about what a 00 VI is. I didn't hear about that kind of upgrade until I started poking around this forum. From what I've read so far, that's where you take the intake manifold off of a newer VQ30 and adapt it to this one?

No plans for a 00 VI swap or any other type of power mods right now. Keep in mind that this car is competing in LeMons, which has a $500 spending limit on the car + upgrades, that and power mods tend to be closely scrutinized and hit with lap penalties. Reliability and longevity are much more important.
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Originally Posted by Rich_MadMaxLemon
The car feels fine with the s-techs. Not too bouncy. The AGX shocks they're paired up with are stiff enough to help reduce some of the roll.

I've never driven one with the stock suspension, so I couldn't tell you how much of an improvement it would be.

Tell me more about what a 00 VI is. I didn't hear about that kind of upgrade until I started poking around this forum. From what I've read so far, that's where you take the intake manifold off of a newer VQ30 and adapt it to this one?

No plans for a 00 VI swap or any other type of power mods right now. Keep in mind that this car is competing in LeMons, which has a $500 spending limit on the car + upgrades, that and power mods tend to be closely scrutinized and hit with lap penalties. Reliability and longevity are much more important.
the only problem is sentra guys, we pioneered FWD VQ tuning Sentra guys put it to best use so they know what an 00vi is and all the other stuff associated with it.

Its cheating but if your not cheating your not trying. VQ35 hr or rev up cams can be had for cheap throw those in there and in a JWT ECU or Nistune board, completely undetectable mods plus an 00vi which could potential raise eyebrows of very few, but most guys when the maxima 1st started racing said there was no way it was under $500, well what about the V8 swapped Volvo or the suspiciously healthy 928.
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The power curve for a DEK swap or VQ35 is so much better than the stock VQ30. 00vi swap can be done for cheap now, I've seen DEK engines go for 100 bucks.

I've done a lot of track days with my car over the years. On the track that VI is so much better than the VQ30 log manifold, throttle can be held to redline and it still makes good power. I can have the engine at 3K~7K rpm and it pulls out of a corner nicely. Combine that with a gutted car and it will move. I don't consider it cheating when they are swapping V8s into cars and show up with cars that are way above the $500 limit. In racing it is only cheating if you get caught.
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Also noticed you had trouble with the wheel bearings. I am finding the front bearings have to be rebuilt after a couple of track days. For a LeMons car I would suggest they be rebuilt before each event. The front bearings are a weak point that there is no quick fix available that I know about. Wheel studs were also a problem so I upgraded to ARP Mitsu EVO wheel studs a few years back. Though on a lightweight gutted car the standard studs should be fine.
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So the race has come and gone. I've been so busy preparing and planning for it, I haven't had a chance to post a real update -- until now:

After the track day on 8/23, a teammate and I got to work on retheming. Rather than just add another layer of paint to the heap, we opted to sand her down a bit to get a nice rough texture to work with. This would help the new paint stick:


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My teammate stripping paint off of the side skirt with a sheet sander.

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Looks like this fender had a little nip and tuck with some bondo in the past

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Same with this one, you can see a large piece of it cracking off near the front headlight/bumper

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The answer to life the universe and everything (see below for an after shot)

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RIP BRE

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Another one of my teammate

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The after shot

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Here I am sanding the trunk lid

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I'm not putting as much pressure as you think...

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What was left of the "MAXIMA" and "NISSAN" emblems left a nice imprint on the old paint that was sprayed over it

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So distinct, you could easily line up a replacement later on

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Here lies the BRE theme, may she rest in peace
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8/31 - Only 2 weeks left until the race. I've picked up a few goodies for the car:

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NRG quick release 2.0, short hub adapter, and steering wheel

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Here's the wheel before I got to work (You can also see the Nismo shift **** which came out of my 240SX)

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Underneath all of that tape was a cushion fashioned out of a rag and some old plastic bags (not pictured). I yanked all of that out as well. Lemons requires all airbags be removed, which the previous owner has already done.

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After removing all of the screws and bolts and applying a little muscle, the wheel came free.
Here's the video I used for reference:

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The goods, ready to be installed!

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A shot of the switch panel

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The original switches were labelled for the brake lights, left and rear, a camera, and a cool suit pump.

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We added a light up toggle switch which replaced the ignition cylinder

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Got the hub installed (black piece), and attached the spindle side of the quick release (red piece)

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Test fitting the wheel before tightening everything down

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With everything lining up pretty well, I added the horn button to the wheel and tightened everything together.

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Here's a link to the video I referenced for the NRG install:

Part numbers for all of the NRG equipment:

ST-006BL-Y - 350mm Steering Wheel
SRK-140H - Short Hub
SRK-200RD - Quick Release Gen 2.0

NOTE: The colors don't match up, and this is because the wheel was on sale for almost 40% off. It's nothing that a little red paint won't fix later.

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Wondering if this project is still going?
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