At 1225 today I go outside to warm up my car to come back to work, 10 Minutes later as I approach my car I hear a clak clak noise, I was like haaaaa what is that noise now. So I pop the hood look at the supercharger and the belt is still on the pulley but if you look at the belt the left side is all the belt looks as if something was under it on one end, Is still lined up with the grooves because thats one of the things I needed to look at the first time, it is kind of cold I am truly exhausted and thats the last thing I want to mess with at the moment so now I dont have a vehicle once again. . I will try once again to fix the problem if all fails I will have to take it to a performance shop to get fixed. What do you guys think?


Where can I get a Gates belt and what size do I need or model anyone know ? I currently have a 3.25 pulley

 

K060705

 

My kit is having the same problem. That part on your belt that's messed up is from it not sitting straight on the pulley. My belt looks exactly like that. The 3.33 pulley I have is also a little burred up from having the belt jump off of it while with the previous owner. The shop is shimming the SC out 3 mm to line up the belts, this is what Stillen recommended. The pulley is just barely out of line, you can't tell by looking at it, the belts all line up, but it's shifted over.

 

Dang.. now you got me all worried driving up to SC/Sacramento this weekend...

My S/C belt looks fine after several months so I'm hoping it won't be a problem... else one of you in Central California may need to hook me up with a place to stay... j/k hopefully.

 

Y2KevSE'

What gates belt are you using with the 3.125 midget?

I'm installing one and I'm wondering if my current K060705 belt will fit or should I go down one size.

Also, Vortech has some links on their site and one is a place called Auto Specialities. I called and they will make custom steel coated aluminum idler and tension pulleys to replace the composite pulleys that came with the kit. I'll feel better with these pulleys since I'll be running 12 lbs of boost. Vortech said If a bearing locks up for just a second under high boost the plastic pulley will self destruct!

If anyone is interested, you can also get the pulleys at $85.00 a piece plus shipping and a donation 0f $5.00 to help defray the $65.00 that stillin charged me for the plastic pulleys to send to auto specialties. I must know very soon because it takes 3 weeks to make them! All money must be paid in advance, no hemming and hawing This is cheap insurance for people running high boost.

 

I'm using the same belt I used with the 3.25, which is the same belt you're using.

When are you going to get the pulleys made? I've been interested in getting aluminum pulleys but never had a chance to take them to a shop.

I would want both pulleys to not have rails if that's possible (with my order).

 

the belt must be 100% straight or you'll chew up belts every other week. check all the pullies the belt run on...even the idler pulley.

 

Call me stupid, but can a car with a SC installed run with the belt off the SC? Would the SC restrict air flow to the point that it couldn't run if the blower wasn't turning?

Also, where does the SC belt "hook" onto the crankshaft and main UDP? Do you replace the alternator belt with a bigger one that runs the SC as well?

 

I don't know about running a (dif) belt bypassing the Vortech pulley but you can always disconnect the airtube before the MAF so air doesn't have to pass thru the S/C

Which pulley is it that can melt? The one with the rails or the one w/o closest to the alternator????

 

Why not the rails??

 

1) Yes it can, the battery will last you about 1.5 hours or so (maybe less).

2) You won't be getting a good amount of air, but enough to keep you moving until your battery dies (no WOT runs of course).

3) Not sure what the question is, but it goes around the SC pulley, underneath the idler pulley, around the alternator pulley, around the A/C pulley, under the tensioner pulley, and around the crank pulley.

4) The SC belt turns the alternator pulley.

 

Thanks, that answered all my questions!

 

Spoke to a TRD guy that installs the superchargers here in New Orleans he said if the SC plate is not aligned properly then the belt will scoot over little by little, makes sense I am missing bolts since the ones I got dont fit, I drove for 3 hours all over this part of the city trying to find them, also called stillen, talk about assnholes that dont give a dam about you, all of them, Ill keep my car as long as I possibly can but Ill ensure next car I get doesnt involve parts from stillen. I may also file a complaint with the Better Business Bureau for their bad customer service.

 

No problem.

 

Yeah, i was missing a few bolts (or they didn't fit correctly) in my NEW kit. I just took the ones that were too short to the hardware store and got some longer ones. All but one are in on my car.

Your S/C plate should be lined up properly... that is hard to screw up, even with some missing bolts.

 

Jaime, the missing bolts make sense. Do what Chunger did and go to the hardware store and get bolts that fit. I still don't understand why the bolts didn't fit. I'm sure they're the same bolts that I took off the mounting plate. Hm...who knows. Hope that will solve your problem.

 

Okay woke up early this morning and drove 3 ours to various stores to get the missing bolts, I went to a place where home depot directed me to and they have nothing but nuts and bolts for boats etc...well the guy saw the bolts were very small and just said forget it here you can have them, so that was nice I was still missing one so I took the blower apart and then got stuck Matt tightened them up tight so I bent my allen wrench so I went to sears and got the allen sockets to make story short got the empty plate aligned all bolts and marked them some were shorte some long tightened the top ones first to use that guys theory of the plate leaning downward then took matts advice ensure that all the grooves line up and then took potatoe heads advice that the belt should have 1/4 inch play and turned on the car and sat under the car for 12 Mins, tomorrow I will continue and the belt stayed on. I am exhausted but tomorrow if God lets the sun out I will complete this. So far it looks pretty good. This time I took my sweet time to ensure everything went well, I wanted to cry to take that apart but I took it apart in 35-45 Mins. I am only missing two more bolts I need to go and get it, and thats the 65MM at the top.

 

Dont cry Jamie (singing) "The sun will come out tomorrow, bet you bottom end that tomorrow, theil be sun..."

 

Believe me prior to me even starting I just didnt even want to think about even doing it then all of a sudden the SUN comes out I was like we doing this today with the sun. I said I guess if this doesnt go well I wont know what to do, I do want to keep this SC really bad I love it.


Kevin what information do you have for our plastic idler pulley I would like to purchase the metal one, I travel quite a bit at least twice out of the year and do not want to get stuck in the middle of the road with a melted pulley. So give us some details when will this be available for us to purchase?

 

Good to see it's working out. My shop just shimmed my SC on the plate like Stillen recommended, and so far everything is great. Drove 120 miles on it and everything is still good, so hopefully I won't have any problems in the future.

 

Tomorrow I will post to see how everything goes everyone I think was correct about the bolt thing and also the guy from TRD was correct as well, it was the installer who did it wrong, well that would be me , but this time I did it a bit different. Glad to hear your problem was fixed lets see if my is today.

 

Me? Ron (I30Krab) is working on them, but you can try the site Brett (Confused) posted in the other thread.

 

Ron is doing the idler pulleys, I referenced the s/c pulley (3" anyone?)

 

I have a SS idler pulley, but it came with my kit from the previous owner. He told me he had a local shop make it. If you guys would like, I can check with him on cost/availability.

 

Kevin if your working on the metal/aluminum idler project let me know I ll be more then happy to buy one just point me to right direction. I fixed my SC Ill just post a new thread.

 

O... I thought you were referrencing the idle and tensioner pulleys.

3" pulley?

 

Looks like Ron's the man to talk to now.

 

What exactly did they do? I have a belt problem as well, it slipped one groove on me and appears to be similar to what you guys are experiencing. I need to find a shop or do it myself, can i just use a a washer between the SC plate and the block? Pics would be great too.

 

They basically moved the blower itself about 3mm away from the engine, just enough to move it out that one groove on the belt. Basically just a 3mm washer. The shop shimmed the blower 3mm away from the plate, the plate and block are still the same distance from each other. Someone told me that you could cut the SC pulley down to move it out and get the same effect, but I'm not really sure about that, and we didn't want to randomly grind stuff down.

 

Sounds like we can shave about 3 mm from the long end of the SC pulley.

 

That's what the shop told me too, but they thought that shimming the blower itself was more precise and we couldn't even get the pulley off. Jay25 is the one to talk to about shaving the pulley, he was the one who told me that his friend was shaving the pulley.

And how does the pulley itself come off? For some reason, nothing I or the shop tried would get it off, and finally we gave up because we were afraid of damaging it.

 

I know Emax95 had to shave his SC pulley down.

The pulley is held on by one bolt. I couldn't easily get the pulley off the first time I tried. What Jane and I did was use an Allen key that comes with a handle for better leverage and torque (this was before we had the impact wrench). We used a pulley grabber to hold the pulley TIGHT and put a pipe at the end of the Allen key extension handle. Turn the Allen key counter-clockwise.

We thought it was impossible to take the pulley off, but it took us about 15 minutes to get it off.

 

I contacted stillen, and they're sending the install info to me. (My car already had the SC when i bought it last year) I'm gonna dive into this coming weekend. Where can i get a new pulley at, from what i can i'm running the stock pulley now 3.6? Who has the smaller ones available? Ofcourse vortech is long distance so i can't call from work. I guess i'll shim the SC and see if that corrects my problem, whats the word on these metal idler pulleys?

 

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/...es/pulley.html

P/N 2A036-262 Supercharger Pulley, 2.62", 6-Rib
P/N 2A036-287 Supercharger Pulley, 2.87", 6-Rib
P/N 2A036-312 Supercharger Pulley, 3.125", 6-Rib
P/N 2A036-325 Supercharger Pulley, 3.25", 6-Rib
P/N 2A036-333 Supercharger Pulley, 3.33", 6-Rib
P/N 2A036-348 Supercharger Pulley, 3.48", 6-Rib
P/N 2A036-360 Supercharger Pulley, 3.60", 6-Rib

2.62" is a nice size pulley to get (if you want to blow up your tranny and motor).

 

Hey thanks i was just going to post a disregard, i finally found a linky in search.

 

No problem. Great to see you're using the search.