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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B


I'll be down in San Antonio in May. Give me a ride and a race After that, the next time you see me I'll probably be sporting a Scooby-Doo WRX.


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Your getting a WRX?!
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 03:23 PM
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I don't understand how a VW assembled in South America would be any worse than a German assembled version. All the plants do is assemble the car. They don't engineer the parts nor build the parts. The motors are shipped in assembled, transmissions are assembled, wiring harnesses loomed together, etc. I've watched an assembly line work and it's brainless work. The way things fit together isn't the workers problem, it's the engineer's problem. I'd bet nearly all the parts for the South America VW are sourced from Germany.

They are. That was part of the discussion they had. All the parts are shipped from Germany to the warehouse to build the cars. All they do is assemble them in Mexico.


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Old Feb 10, 2002 | 03:25 PM
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Dave really wants to smoke Russ
Scoobys suck in trap speed. That is where he will loose if I am modded. But the actualy 1/4 time they are fast. Guy ran 13.2 at 92mph this past weekend.

A chiped GTI ran 14.6 at 97 mph with no other mods.
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Scoobys suck in trap speed. That is where he will loose if I am modded. But the actualy 1/4 time they are fast. Guy ran 13.2 at 92mph this past weekend.

A chiped GTI ran 14.6 at 97 mph with no other mods.
High trap speed = Traction problems.
MPH means nothing...it's who gets there first!
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 03:46 PM
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High trap speed = Traction problems.
MPH means nothing...it's who gets there first!
Yea, compared to AWD vs FWD. If its a roll the 1.8t will take a WRX.... Less power loss to the wheels.
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 03:47 PM
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Originally posted by costcowholesale


Dave really wants to smoke Russ
Thats nasty!
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 03:57 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Scoobys suck in trap speed. That is where he will loose if I am modded. But the actualy 1/4 time they are fast. Guy ran 13.2 at 92mph this past weekend.

A chiped GTI ran 14.6 at 97 mph with no other mods.
not if the WRX modded like crazy
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 08:22 PM
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Yea, compared to AWD vs FWD. If its a roll the 1.8t will take a WRX.... Less power loss to the wheels.
i don't know what kind of chip my teammate uses (i saw him run 13.9 in an auto 1.8T jetta). i'm sure if you do your research you can find something with admirable gains. now howcome our ECUs don't add dramatic gains? even though it's naturally aspirated i was hoping our mods would add much more power than they do. now about AWD, the instinctual WRX driver will know to press the clutch in, give more revs then race. if you just press the gas from a roll you will get nowhere. the best time i could pull from the WRX is a 14.6@95,96mph. it's got top end pull. it's the launch that's so difficult to master. revving to 4.5k-5k, watching the light and allowing for slip is difficult compared to launching a maxima. also factoring heat sink, the WRX times can vary as much as 8 tenths (in my experience). maybe with a unichip, the WRX can match a comparable VW with a chip. i say the WRX is the best "overall" driving car when comparing the VW and max in the same sentence. i'll still go with the max's V6 stump pulling power though. i hate lag. power is power though, hello SR20DET here i come!
Old Feb 10, 2002 | 08:40 PM
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Russ-

I won't have the WRX in May. If I do get one, it will be later on in the year. I was just saying the next time you see me after May, I'll probably be sporting the Scooby. I bought my wife a 98 Legacy GT wagon earlier this year and I got to flog it last week during our ice storm. AWD is a blast. I know the WRX isn't the best topend machine, but it does pretty good for what it's got. Simply adding a boost controller, filter panel, remove the intake resonators, and add a good 3" turbo on back exhaust will easily get you in the 13s. SCC did a test of 6 WRXs, one of which has the mods I listed. It ran a 13.6@100mph on heavy 17" Sparcos. Once you uncork the WRX and take control of the boost, it becomes quite a different machine. I really doubt a chipped VW could hang with a WRX up top. Most of the guys at Vortex and a 18Turbo are in the mid to high 14s with traps in the 93-95mph range.

As for that guy running 13.2@92mph in the WRX, he must have been bracket racing and hit the brakes. That trap speed is WAY too low for a 13.2. A 13.2 with a modded WRX should be closer to 101-103mph.

What are your planned mods?

Oh and I'll smack you if you start quoting flywheel power numbers like most of the those 1.8T guys do I don't know why they do it. It's very misleading. I don't go around saying my car makes 220hp and 233ft/lbs of torque.

Dave
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