Dave B

Look here:

http://www.altimas.net/forum/showthr...threadid=23219

What's really crazy is his horrible 60'. It's nearly a 2.4 yet he ran a 14.6. Aren't all the 14.3-14.4 2k2 Maxima's pulling 2.1 60'? The Altima's trap speed is also as high, if not higher than many of the 2k2 Maximas.


Dave

Sprint

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we already deciphered with Steve's 6spd vs my 5spd and my cousin's 5spd.. we were basically at the same mph at the top of 3rd and top of 4th..

so up to 5th Gear the 5spd Max .. 5spd Alty and the 6spd Maxima are the same..

kit99bar

interesting to note that this guy got almost the same 60ft and trap speed as me

so his 2nd gear where he is much stronger than me

(this is assuming we both ran the same track on the same days )

2M0A0X2

i didn't get an altima for a reason

emax02

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He that altima time is almost as fast as a auto max..

mattattax

almost

Loe max

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What could be a reason why most of the Altima 5speed's are getting crappy 60ft times compared to Maxima auto/6speed ?

emax02

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The rear beam set up should actualy help the max with traction off the line, or atleast that's what I have heard.

Dave B

Don't believe everything you hear. If the Maxima was RWD with a liveaxle, then yes, a beam/live axle helps. Since the Maxima is FWD, the rear suspension plays no part in acceleration off the line.

As for the Altima running a 14.65, look at his 60'. It's much worse than DMBMaxima's or any of the auto 2k2 Maximas. The Altima can 60' just like the Max, it's more a matter of driving and the track. It would be absurd to say the open-differential Altima can't get off the line as good as a open differential Maxima. The Altima's trap speed is bit a higher than nearly every 2k2 Max. I'm not saying the Altima is a faster car, but the difference in performance between the two cars is nill.


Dave

mattattax

i don't think there can be too much of a comparison until more altimas get to the track and report back with their times--what other times have been posted by altimas (if any)? someone go over tell them to get to the track, respectfully, of course

emax02

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I said the altima is almost as fast as a auto max sarcasticly . I'm just kinda sick of hearing about the whole altima VS max thing. I think both car(5spd VS 6spd) are about dead even, with a slite edge going to the max "maybe". I strongly believe that the auto 2K2 max is quite a bit faster then a auto altima. I also think that the 5spd in the altima is a little more effeicient that the maximas 6spd speed.


As for the rear supension, thanks for clearing that up "kinda". The maxima does have more agressive tires then the altima though and the rear suspension "does" play a roll in off the line traction. It may only be the shocks and springs that play a factor but if you have a saggy rear the front will lift up and less weight will be pushing down on the front wheels.

BTW Dave you would be pleased too hear that a stock 2002 5spd SE altima put down 204 FWHP. He has 8-9K miles on the car though so he may have a little advantage over every onee else in the power department.

MONTE 01&97 SE

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2002 auto for auto the Max is a bit quicker, I can run 6.65 to 60 Altima quickest time is about 7.1-7.3 sec. 6spd vs 5spd Maxima will edge it out.

jdl75

I agree with your statement that if the Max to be RWD, a beam/live axel would help with acceleration. However, I would have to disagree with such a broad statement that rear suspension plays no part in acceleration off the line. If the rear suspension is too soft or too short relative to the front, the rearward rotation of mass of [any] FWD car will cause the front tires to lose traction. Keep that rear stiff and solid so that the car settles flat under the hardest acceleration.

rwbro719

Okay.... Let's put this to rest. The Altima is fast with a manual. I shopped both cars and drove both stock units (2k2 altima with a 5 speed manual and a 2k2 maxima with a 6 speed). I planned to buy an Altima ( being predjudiced against a maxima). After 2 hours of driving everything they had, cuz I am that way, I chose the Maxima.
IT IS QUICKER FROM A TORQUE STANDPOINT~! The Altima uses last years "Maxima's tranny". Every Nissan Tech I chat with love doing PDI-Set-ups on Max vs Altimas. There are minimal quality issues with the Max. I mean, touch the interior finish in an Altima and absorb the Maxima finish; nuff said Everyone seems to forget that torque is an important quality to performance. In the V-6 class, the torque is an issue versus the V-8 family. I come from big Chevy's and Ford's I know this formula and upon bringing this car home to "old timers" they have respect for this vehicle.
Bottom Line: It will take an Altima by 3/10's of a second in the 0-60 class and more in the quarter mile (by 4/10's)- look at the weight ratio also.
Do not try to convince me as I have done enough R&D on this. This is the last vehicle I thought of buying and here I am!

Dave B

I guess you forgot the Altima V6 has the same exact torque rating as the Maxima


Dave