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Old 02-17-2002 | 02:40 PM
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ohh man this i so hard to believe!!! - thank god that it doesnt seem to be anything major - i hope you guys, especially rBA, recover asap
Old 02-17-2002 | 02:47 PM
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Oh geez... I'm so sorry to hear this Calvin.. We'll be praying to Albert's condition for a healthy and speedy recovery.

You can turn back time and change what had happened. Sometimes you can only learn from these experiences.

Our thoughts are with you and Albert.

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Old 02-17-2002 | 02:55 PM
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Best of luck to you both
Old 02-17-2002 | 03:08 PM
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..our thoughts and prayers to both of you....
Old 02-17-2002 | 03:18 PM
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Sorry about the situation and I hope RBA will recover quickly.

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Old 02-17-2002 | 03:24 PM
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Damn dude, my prayers are with you guys.
Old 02-17-2002 | 03:27 PM
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Hope you both a speedy recovery too..
Old 02-17-2002 | 03:30 PM
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Sorry to hear of your unfortunate incident. Hope everyone gets well soon.
Old 02-17-2002 | 03:49 PM
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Best of luck to both you guys.
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:02 PM
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Jeez, sorry to hear about that. Accidents happen to everyone, and we're only human so there's no need to think about "If I only...."

At least you're alright and I really hope Rba is going to be okay too. You should also take it easy for the next few days.

I think printing this up and giving it to Rba is a good idea.
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:06 PM
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Thanks everyone for your thoughts and support.

I just got back from the hospital visiting RBa.

He's doing a lot better than last night, but still hurts when he tries to sit up.

The doctors say that he has a hairline fracture on his left shoulder and pulled back muscles I think. His back I'm not too sure about, they are going to do a cat scan tonight or tomorrow. They are going to give him a back brace and should be released on Tuesday.

I'm going to take a look at my car tomorrow.

Thanks again everyone for their support.
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:14 PM
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why would you pull the e-brake
RBa feel better.
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:21 PM
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So sorry to hear that Calvin... all my best to you and RBa, I know you guys will make it through all this.
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:25 PM
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I'm so sorry to hear about what happened, I hope both of you will recover fast (I've been in a similar situation so I know how it rips you apart inside) and I hope that RBA gets better fast and is forgiving.
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:36 PM
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I wasn't slowing down. I was going pretty fast because I wanted to blow through the light. But the yellow was extremely short. It felt like the light went from green and to yellow and then a split second later, red.

My brakes were already pretty worn. The past couple of weeks, I've been noticing that my braking distances have been getting longer and I recently passed 90K and was planning on doing my own 90K tuneup which also included changing the oil and the brake pads.

When I slammed on the brakes, my car was just not slowing down and I didn't feel my ABS kick in. Several times in the past, I pulled on the e-brake to slow down a little. Just pulled it up enough to feel it bite.

So this time, I pulled on it and I still was going pretty fast due to the slick roads. When I started fishtailing, I tried to focus on getting my car straight. Too many things going through my head including not wanting to hit anyone or anything.

YoIt'sOk said I started to fishtail and I could have possibly made it if my rear didn't hit the curb. I was in the right lane and first my rear swung towards the curb. I corrected and it swung the opposite direction a little and then swung towards the curb again. That's when I hit the curb and swung my front end and aimed it at a pole.

I hit it probably going 45 mph.

Of course, this is what YoItsOk and Toylet tell me. All I remember was: red light, brake, still going, pull e-brake, still going, fishtailing left then right and then I see the pole and then pain and smoke.

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why would you pull the e-brake
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:49 PM
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Originally posted by yo_its_ok
Seriously of all the people in this f*cken world, why clee ?
Y Rba ?
Y all this sh*t. I'm so f*cken beyond ****ed, I can't even express it. I hated seeing what happened before my eyes, I hated the whole scenario of watching clee break down, i hated watching rba suffer. It truly brought out something deep within, and it hurt, I couldn't show it, but it f*cken hurt. Alot of thoughts in my head at the time wiped out only for clee and rba's concern. I cared about nothing else, not about my own well being and watching smoke come from underhood, smelling burning oil, antifreeze and air bag gas. I appreciate those on DPA who gave a helping hand to stabilize rba, I appreciate the volunteer fireman who came within 1 minute of the accident occuring and taking charge. There was so much comotion going on I got lost in my emotions. I for once wanted to break down and cry my brains out cause I can't understand why this happened. I wanted to cry cause rba and clee were still alive. I thought about the last 300 days of my life, and realized how many friends I lost from WTC terrorism, to my gf, and several of my friends. I honestly couldn't take another loss. I have not been so spooked in my life. Everyone tells me its an accident, but it's more than that, to me. Maybe there is a worse fate for me; I thought, but I accept it. For once in my life, I was afraid to drive. Being there and watching one of your buds who doesn't truly "drive" as hard as you do, and watching the wipeout, my heart stopped as the car hit the pole. I wanted to do something when his car fishtailed, I wished the car recover and spin around. In my 0.5 second of thought, it all happened the worst way. There aren't words in existence to describe what is going through my mind; I still search for answers, and even after 18 hours after the accident my emotions haven't changed, or have I found answers from within. I wish more than anything, that rba has a full recovery from his injuries. I appreciate those who stopped by today to the Hospital to comfort rba in his state. I hope in the future we all learn from this.

-God's Speed, Rba.
amen yo, amen
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:53 PM
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After reading hogan's post and clee's original i realize there has to be more to the story...

prayers are with ya RBa
Old 02-17-2002 | 04:56 PM
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I agree Hogan. Man, I know how a 45 mph impact feels with a stationary object in a Maxima... it's not fun.
Old 02-17-2002 | 05:12 PM
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Be thankful it was in a Max

they hold up pretty well in accidents, can you imagine an Integra or some other smaller car ?

Clee, do what you can to help Rba in the meantime, keep visiting, help him out around the house when he gets out of the Hospital. That's about all you can do, accidents happen.

Yo, your thoughts are real genuine, unfortunately at times this world we live in can be very unforgiving. Keep it in perspective man, everything will work out fine, it will just take time, hang in there.
Old 02-17-2002 | 05:14 PM
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Sometimes we need to be reminded we aren't 'invinsible' and it doesn't always happen to 'other people'...
Old 02-17-2002 | 05:16 PM
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i hope albert feels better, we cheered him up today and a lot of people came to see him, so thank you all who took the time to come out to the hospital.

there isnt any woulda been, coulda been stuff... what happened happened, and we should just learn from that... to see 2 friends get injured in a car wreck who didnt deserve an ounce of it, its heart breaking.

Time to visit albert again tomorrow.

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Old 02-17-2002 | 05:23 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about your mis-fortune. I wish you and your friend RBa a speedy recovery. The Max is just a car. There will be others. Take care.

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Old 02-17-2002 | 05:52 PM
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ooo man ......

this yr is startin to really **** me off.....

my prayers n thoughts goes out to rba ..... clee bro ..where r u ...call me !!!!
Old 02-17-2002 | 05:52 PM
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My thoughts and prayers go out to the both of you. Hope both of you recover quickly. Take care.

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Old 02-17-2002 | 05:55 PM
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I was in the line of cars with Synki and MilfsMax when MaximaRider (Arnaud) got hit.. and it was really scary, we know what you have gone through..

just take it in stride, things happen in life you can't control, just be thankful you and albert are okay..

good luck with everything, i'm here, as the whole ORG is, if you need me. (AIM- SSJZTien)
Old 02-17-2002 | 05:59 PM
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The world isn't always pretty to look at/deal with sometimes cause everyone knows sh*t happens to everyone, not just a select few. Best way to keep it from taking over you is to focus on the brighter, positive side of things while accepting the facts.
In this case, smile and be glad that you know you'll still be able to see your friend tomorrow and he'll be able to return one.
Old 02-17-2002 | 06:04 PM
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glad to see RBA smiling!

thank you everyone for coming to the hospital and yoit'sok giving me directions when i got lost on montauk highway. it really sucked what happened but think of it, clee and rba are still alive!
hope to see albert come out of the hospital eating his fiber!
sorry i couldn't stay so long. clee, if you need me, give me a call at work. my phone is being send to motorola for a new one so i won't have it for a week.
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just got off the phone with john and calvin ... everyone seems to be ok .... im trin to call albert...but the line is busy ....
man and i had a bad feeling about this weekend.....

my thoughts n prayers goes out to albert and his family .....

guys ...this is where we pull together as a family in the time of need .....i want to organize a get well gift/get 2gether for albert and calvin

lets put our hearts n minds 2gether here ...

whos in ..??

as for calvin ...dont go blamin urself for this bro .. everythin happens for a reason..it could of been worse bro ...thank god everyone is fine... keep ur head up bro ...albert is goin to be fine

Old 02-17-2002 | 06:23 PM
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Ouch!! When it rains, it means slow down! I hope RBA is okay. Actually glad you both are okay.

Originally posted by clee130
I have to get this off my chest.

I feel like the biggest idiot right now and haven't had much sleep since last night.

Last night, I went out with the Queens crew (YoIt'sOk, Toylet and RBa) along with a33 out headed out to Long Island. I decided to go home around 1:30 and Rba decided to ride with me. YoIt'sOk decided to stay a little longer with a33 and Toylet riding along.

At this point, it started drizzling. I was going kind of fast and we were on a long stretch of road. I saw the light turn yellow and thought that I would shoot through. But the yellow turned to red really quickly and I then decided to stop.

At this point, I did everything wrong. That combined with my semi-worn brakes spelled disaster. I stomped on the brakes and my car was not slowly down quickly enough so for some stupid dumba$$ reason, I pulled on the e-brake also. I didn't feel the ABS kick in and my car started fishtailing.

I thought I was regaining control but then my car fishtailled the other direction and I slide into a telephone or utility pole. I'm not sure because both airbags deployed and my car was then f**ked.

I was fine except for my face burning a little from the airbag and my knee banging against something. And when I got out of the car, I broke down and when I sat down, I cut my hand a little.

Rba is now still in the hospital. After we hit the pole, I could move and Rba was complaining about his back. The doctors did an X-ray and say that it is probably nothing more than pulled muscles. He still has the full range of motions but had muscle spasms.

Everyone came to the hospital and I stayed with RBa until he fell asleep and then came home. I am probably going to go back to see him soon.

From what I remember immediately after the accident, through shell shocked vision, my car is completely f**ked. I just repaired the front end bumper support last week from a minor fender bender from two years ago. But from what YoItsOk told me, everything up to engine is gone. Radiator busted, tranny f**ked, engine cracked.

But all that is nothing compared to how sorry and worried I am about RBa. If he hadn't decided to get into my car, then he would be fine right now.

I would just like to ask for everyone's prayer's right now for RBa... that he has no major problems.
Old 02-17-2002 | 06:45 PM
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just help rba out the best u can clee. we can never tell what will happen while driven. heck i don't like driven on the highway when it rain. so don't blame yourself just be happy that yall are alive and take it easy on the road when wet next time. hope yall get a full recovery.
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Originally posted by celica
just help rba out the best u can clee. we can never tell what will happen while driven. heck i don't like driven on the highway when it rain. so don't blame yourself just be happy that yall are alive and take it easy on the road when wet next time. hope yall get a full recovery.
indeed.
Old 02-17-2002 | 06:55 PM
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Albert

i juss got off the phone with albert

hes doin ok !!! ...he told me hes feeling much better .. recovering


possible cracked spin ( not confirmed !! )

and he told me he has a crack in his shoulder ...

besides thats whiplash ...

so looks like he gonna recover well ....

we need to cheer up calvin ( clee130 ) ..... hes really down right now...in this time of need...we need to be there for him and albert also ...

Old 02-17-2002 | 07:03 PM
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Re: Albert

Originally posted by Golden Glory
i juss got off the phone with albert

hes doin ok !!! ...he told me hes feeling much better .. recovering


possible cracked spin ( not confirmed !! )

and he told me he has a crack in his shoulder ...

besides thats whiplash ...

so looks like he gonna recover well ....

we need to cheer up calvin ( clee130 ) ..... hes really down right now...in this time of need...we need to be there for him and albert also ...

thanks for the update
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thanks for the update
Old 02-17-2002 | 07:11 PM
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Wow, sorry about the wreck clee130. Our prayers go out to you all, especially rba. Hope everything turns out fine and god bless.
Old 02-17-2002 | 07:19 PM
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Sorry to hear about your accident - Calvin and Albert. God bless that both of you guys are still here. Strange things will happen upon us from time to time to humble us... put us back down to Earth showing that we are all human. Wishing both of you a quick recovery emotionally, mentally, and physically. Our prayers are with you.
Old 02-17-2002 | 08:47 PM
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Clee and Albert...

Though you 2 barely know me, I just want you both to know that I'm sorry for what had happened. I am forever grateful that you two are still alive. Thank god. Good luck and a speedy recovery!

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Old 02-17-2002 | 09:15 PM
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There is a lot of talk here about FSTB's, RSB's, which intake is better, and so on. We take tremendous pleasure in our cars. We tinker with them, we clean them, we integrate ourselves with the machine and thrill at increased performance and finding how to that same turn, the turn we take every day, just a little better.

And there is nothing wrong with any of this.

But, at the end of the day, it's just material crap. An accident like this can help everyone remember what's really important, and it can affect our lives for the better.

I suspect I am older than most here (I'm 47). I probably see things different than the 20-somethings, and at my age I feel some license to share.

To begin with, I'm proud of the caliber, complexity, and depth of real feeling that the posters have conveyed here. Even in a virtual world, people do care.

To the driver: I hope the best for your speedy recovery.

You need to remember there is a reason they call them "accidents." If you drive, you are likely to be in one (in fact I just heard that the average in California is something like 3 in a driving lifetime).

You've probably rehashed everything several times and see how you might have done this or that different. It's OK to do that if you are doing it to learn what not to do in the future. It's not OK if you do it to keep beating yourself up. It's almost impossible not to do a little of this; just don't overdue it.

More likely than not, you will have to contend with a myriad of details like insurance and so on. It won't be fun, but it WILL pass. You will get through it eventually and life will go on.

Another thing I would suggest (this is the voice of the old guy who has been around the block a few times) is that this forum is a great place to communicate with your friends and receive support; it is not the place where anyone involved in accident of this sort should go into too much detail about the facts of their accident. It may FEEL like a room where you are talking with friends, but the reality is that this is a forum that the world can read.

It's already clear that the well being of your friend is paramount in your mind. Yes, the car may be gone but it can (and will) be replaced. I suggest you completely let go of what is just a bunch of metal, rubber, plastic, and glass. All of our cars are really just recycling waiting to happen.

To the passenger: there is nothing that can be said except I hope the best for your speedy recovery.

To everyone else here: you've been given a gift of sorts. You've been able to experience, from afar, the cold reality of what can happen to you almost any day. Regardless of every mod you've added and the amount of time you've driven at the limit, you are not immune. Take some of this accident as yours, and resolve to be even more careful out there than you already are.
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*sigh*

I'll be praying for Albert's recovery.

I was thankful that the passenger in my car was ok when I had my accident. Since then, I've made a point to be more aware of my surroundings whenever I'm behind the wheel. It also became clear to me that as car enthusiasts, we all need to 'slow' down a bit... life is precious and it's not how fast you can get from point A to point B, but it's arriving to point B safely that counts.

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Old 02-17-2002 | 09:34 PM
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Man, I wish I could have seen this thread earlier. I just got home to MA from a day trip to MD, and went right through NYC. Even though you guys don't really know me I would have stopped by. Anyways, I am really glad RBA and Clee are doing ok. My thoughts are with you guys.


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