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Old 02-22-2002 | 11:03 PM
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Holy Moly! 3.25 is kickin' ***!

with the help of ever-so-knowledgable-walking-rice-cooker-Keving i got my 3.25 on. 1 freakin *** bolt wasted over 2 hours, i had to drill into my 3.48 to take off the bolt that was stripped, pretty much only had like 30% surface showing on the bolt.. otherwise it was pretty much round...

as far as aligning the alternator to the SC bracket that was a biotch too... #%@%@# that took like over an hour just for that one bolt itself. and Keving lost a screwdriver somewhere inside my engine bay. well.

other than that. max psi i hit tonight was 9 and i let off before my redline. THAT WAS AMAZING.. it was me, Keving, BL97 & Mingo in the car and it was just haulin' away... on our drive to Burger king, which happened to shaft us a freakin' whopper after we took off and looked into the bag once we go home #%#@%

other than that.. it was a pretty much a cool day.

MANG. the car pulls sooooo hard now.

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Old 02-22-2002 | 11:12 PM
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So how much a significant difference is it from 6???
Old 02-22-2002 | 11:25 PM
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OMG brian. its freakin nuts. you thought stock pulley is mad quick?

ok . you ever ride in an E36 (aka 95-99 M3)? this is the only way i can relate to the push on my neck when my friend punches it.

i finally got the neck pull with my car! yay!


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So how much a significant difference is it from 6???
Old 02-22-2002 | 11:33 PM
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OMG brian. its freakin nuts. you thought stock pulley is mad quick?

ok . you ever ride in an E36 (aka 95-99 M3)? this is the only way i can relate to the push on my neck when my friend punches it.

i finally got the neck pull with my car! yay!


Sweet!!
Old 02-23-2002 | 04:49 AM
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One question, who had to go without their burger?
Old 02-23-2002 | 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by BlancMax
One question, who had to go without their burger?
Yeah your write up was great, but please tell us who went hungry.

This will help out the mewbies a bit before they get started.
Old 02-23-2002 | 08:37 AM
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heh, i just mailed out for my 3.25 .. cheston, IM me sometime, you might be able to get that 3.33 to me w/o much effort.
Old 02-23-2002 | 09:06 AM
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OMG brian. its freakin nuts. you thought stock pulley is mad quick?

ok . you ever ride in an E36 (aka 95-99 M3)? this is the only way i can relate to the push on my neck when my friend punches it.

i finally got the neck pull with my car! yay!


Shouldn't a 5spd Maxima with an SC (especially a 3.25) destroy an e36 M3? If not I see no point in putting an SC on in the first place. Your putting down significantly more power I assume?
Old 02-23-2002 | 09:12 AM
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Originally posted by Chebosto
OMG brian. its freakin nuts. you thought stock pulley is mad quick?

ok . you ever ride in an E36 (aka 95-99 M3)? this is the only way i can relate to the push on my neck when my friend punches it.

i finally got the neck pull with my car! yay!


I burn M3's like they're civics even with my stock clutch. Also, two of my friends have them and they have no where near the neck slamming ability my ride has.

Cheston do this, drive in second gear up to 4500-5000 RPM, lift off the gas completely and then mash it, I guarantee your passengers will sh~t their pants afterwards.

It's important to lift off the gas completely cause it puts the car's forward accelleration back at base line so when you gun it, it throws all the G's back, if you just ease into it obviously it doesn't slam your neck, but no car would at that case.
Old 02-23-2002 | 09:13 AM
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Originally posted by PhatGuy


Shouldn't a 5spd Maxima with an SC (especially a 3.25) destroy an e36 M3? If not I see no point in putting an SC on in the first place. Your putting down significantly more power I assume?

It's probably outright faster, but an SC max wouldnt have the same sharp throttle response as the NA M3.

The boost builds with RPM, so the neck pull would be less....

I guess, just me theory, since I havent driven either one of those cars.
Old 02-23-2002 | 10:50 AM
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Originally posted by Chebosto
OMG brian. its freakin nuts. you thought stock pulley is mad quick?

ok . you ever ride in an E36 (aka 95-99 M3)? this is the only way i can relate to the push on my neck when my friend punches it.

i finally got the neck pull with my car! yay!


how do you compare it to a slow rwd e36? are you saying you couldn't toss a e36m3 with 6psi? come on now... rwd, fwd, they pull/push differently...
Old 02-23-2002 | 12:43 PM
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Cheston, you just put the 3.25 in??? I sold it to you a long time ago, I thought you had it in already. Oh, if you think the 3.25 is great, just imagine a 3.125...
Old 02-23-2002 | 03:51 PM
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Hey now. don't temp me

Naw. the reason why i compared it to the M3 was the PUSH effect the RWD had on the passengers...

man. those guys with the midget are nuts. i can barely get over the fact this Dwarf is soooo nice.



yay yay





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Cheston, you just put the 3.25 in??? I sold it to you a long time ago, I thought you had it in already. Oh, if you think the 3.25 is great, just imagine a 3.125...
Old 02-23-2002 | 03:57 PM
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Try the dwarf with a 6:1 FMU disc, thats real fun!
Old 02-23-2002 | 07:11 PM
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if i did that. then the dwarf would turn in to sleeping beauty. *poof*



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Try the dwarf with a 6:1 FMU disc, thats real fun!
Old 02-23-2002 | 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by Chebosto
if i did that. then the dwarf would turn in to sleeping beauty. *poof*
Naaaaa, I ran it for a while. I only got 8.5psi with the dwarf. I had two step colder plugs. My EGT's hit 780c peak, which IMHO is perfect. The car was WAY fast! Plugs looked good to, no signs of detonation or leanness. With 8.5spi and an 8:1 my EGT's only hit 720c, which is to rich.
Old 02-24-2002 | 12:34 AM
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I'm buying the SC in two months and I intend to use either a 3.33 or 3.25 pulley. Obviously, I've got the clutch and exhaust covered but I wonder if you could tell me if I need anything else to keep it safe. I know Kev uses an S-AFC and Vortech 8:1 FMU but when do these become necessary as opposed to luxury? BOV and guages will be done too BTW. Thanks!
Old 02-24-2002 | 04:55 AM
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Originally posted by Neo Max
I'm buying the SC in two months and I intend to use either a 3.33 or 3.25 pulley. Obviously, I've got the clutch and exhaust covered but I wonder if you could tell me if I need anything else to keep it safe. I know Kev uses an S-AFC and Vortech 8:1 FMU but when do these become necessary as opposed to luxury? BOV and guages will be done too BTW. Thanks!
To keep it "safe" stay with the stock pulley and boost level.

But the 8:1 FMU disc is a "safe" bet with higher boost levels.
Old 02-25-2002 | 06:53 AM
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Naaaaa, I ran it for a while. I only got 8.5psi with the dwarf. I had two step colder plugs. My EGT's hit 780c peak, which IMHO is perfect. The car was WAY fast! Plugs looked good to, no signs of detonation or leanness. With 8.5spi and an 8:1 my EGT's only hit 720c, which is to rich.
I detonated with 6:1 and 2 step colder plugs/

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Old 02-25-2002 | 09:46 AM
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Das right.
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Originally posted by Y2KevSE


I detonated with 6:1 and 2 step colder plugs/

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Old 02-25-2002 | 10:31 AM
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
But the 8:1 FMU disc is a "safe" bet with higher boost levels.
Is FMU, "Fuel Management Unit?" What exactly are the ratios you guys are throwing around? A/F ratio or SC compression? Lastly, does AFC stand for Air Flow Controller or Air/Fuel Controller? I know what it does, I've just heard both names.
Old 02-25-2002 | 12:07 PM
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Is What exactly are the ratios you guys are throwing around? A/F ratio or SC compression? Lastly, does AFC stand for Air Flow Controller or Air/Fuel Controller? I know what it does, I've just heard both names.
FMU = Fuel Management Unit

6:1 = 6psi of fp per 1psi of boost (60psi/fp:6psi/b)

Air/Fuel Controller (its really a just fuel controller)
Old 02-25-2002 | 12:26 PM
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
6:1 = 6psi of fp per 1psi of boost (60psi/fp:6psi/b)
Thanks for the info. Not to be picky, but isn't 60:6 a 10:1 ratio? Shouldn't 6:1 on 6psi be 36lbs. of fp? Also, is that total fp or fuel pressure increase over factory?
Old 02-25-2002 | 12:28 PM
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Originally posted by Badaxxima


Thanks for the info. Not to be picky, but isn't 60:6 a 10:1 ratio? Shouldn't 6:1 on 6psi be 36lbs. of fp? Also, is that total fp or fuel pressure increase over factory?
duhhhhhhh, yea
Old 02-25-2002 | 12:39 PM
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax
duhhhhhhh, yea
Disregard the last question in my last post. That's common sense. I'm still a little confused about the ratios though.
Is an 8:1 FMU pushing;
80psi FP:8psi Boost or
64psi FP:8psi Boost
Old 02-25-2002 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by Badaxxima


Disregard the last question in my last post. That's common sense. I'm still a little confused about the ratios though.
Is an 8:1 FMU pushing;
80psi FP:8psi Boost or
64psi FP:8psi Boost
64psi

Peak fuel pressure is 1/2 base fuel pressure before boost, plus the number from this calculation.
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You guys are craaazy...
Old 02-25-2002 | 04:40 PM
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Originally posted by CFster
You guys are craaazy...
Nice sig... I'm a Mclaren fan too! Ya think Kimi's got what it takes... Im gonna miss Mika...

Death to Schumi!!!
Old 02-25-2002 | 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax


FMU = Fuel Management Unit

6:1 = 6psi of fp per 1psi of boost

Air/Fuel Controller (its really a just fuel controller)
If an AFC is mostly just a fuel controller, then would it work better to get the super FMU since it's 5 way adjustable?
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Originally posted by Keh mon
the super FMU...
...it's 5 way adjustable?
Oh for the love of God!
Old 02-25-2002 | 09:31 PM
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Hey Mardi
do you think if i run 6:1 it will be ok? why dont they have a 7:1

%@#%#@
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Originally posted by MardiGrasMax


Nice sig... I'm a Mclaren fan too! Ya think Kimi's got what it takes... Im gonna miss Mika...

Death to Schumi!!!
Kimi definately has the talent. Let's see if the new Mercedes engine has what it takes. Coulthard is still a notch below Kimi, Shumacher and Montoya though - he'll find a way to screw it up. And I think Williams BMW may have been sandbagging in testing. I guess we'll find out this weekend.

Myself, I'm a Montoya fan - I think he's the next Senna. But I was out at Indy last year for the USGP and those McLarens sounded fierce! Those F1 cars already rev to 17,000+ rpms and the McLaren's sounded like they were revving even higher. I later found out the sound was due to an unusual exhaust header they used, but they still sounded awesome...
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Originally posted by Chebosto
Hey Mardi
do you think if i run 6:1 it will be ok? why dont they have a 7:1

%@#%#@
Well the 91 octane thing worries me... But you could try it, but be carefull. Use a EGT gauge or WideBand O2. 2 step colder plugs too and check them after a few runs for specs or heat glazing and/or melting.

Vortech does sell a bleader valve that attaches to the FMU vacume port. This allows you to blead off some boost so you can kinda make a 7:1.
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