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Apexi Intake is done - pics

Old May 14, 2002 | 04:06 AM
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Apexi Intake is done - pics

I just finished the first Apexi intake sample. It is not as simple as a basic filter swap as there are additional parts needed. My first impressions are that I feel a bit more power all through the power range, but I only drove about 10 miles so far. I'm inviting a few of you to try this new variation of the Berk Tuning intake. We are not switching over to a new filter but this only being done on a trial basis.

The Apexi kit will consist of:

-Apexi Universal Filter
-2 6061 Aluminum adaptors, polished (one for MAF, one for Apexi filter)
-4" section of double walled, braided, hi temp silicone hose
-304 stainless steel mounting plate, polished

Pricing - $119 + $8 shipping.

I will have a link for payments up shortly, or you can forward the amount via paypal to sales@berktuning.com
Old May 14, 2002 | 04:07 AM
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wheres the pics?
Old May 14, 2002 | 07:51 AM
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Originally posted by Nine7Max
wheres the pics?
Good question.
Old May 14, 2002 | 08:12 AM
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May be interested, but pics???

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Old May 14, 2002 | 08:24 AM
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como es pics?
Old May 14, 2002 | 08:37 AM
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Here are the pictures..>

He posted the pictures in the 5th gen board.

Apexi Intake:
http://home.mindspring.com/~cobymoby/Apexi/
Old May 14, 2002 | 08:58 AM
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How much for just the cone?

Old May 14, 2002 | 09:42 AM
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Is this intake the same as the Jim Wolf Tech. Intake? Better? Worse?
The price is about the same, and so is the design, so i assume that they are both the same in performance.
Old May 14, 2002 | 12:20 PM
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Coz over at UltimateZ sells the JWT intake for 100 shipped.
Old May 14, 2002 | 12:30 PM
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I think that it looks like 100 filter...I'll pass
Old May 14, 2002 | 12:44 PM
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The reason the Apexi is gaining momentum is because of a recent test (forgot URL) that put it as one of the best in terms of airflow + filtering capabilities.
Old May 14, 2002 | 04:21 PM
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The reason the Apexi is gaining momentum is because of a recent test (forgot URL) that put it as one of the best in terms of airflow + filtering capabilities.
Matrix has the design of a filter for $35 bucks, and about $15 for the adapter, $100+ is a ripoff.
Old May 14, 2002 | 09:10 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Matrix has the design of a filter for $35 bucks, and about $15 for the adapter, $100+ is a ripoff.
I'm not even going to comment on this one.........
Old May 14, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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does the filter itself have better flow? I'm trying to be subjective to Apexim, they have a good name for good products. Although I'm not seeing anything special. The velocity stack is promising, but I think its more than the stillen one. Other than that, I can't think of anything other than the filter.
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:13 PM
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Originally posted by SLC I30t
does the filter itself have better flow? I'm trying to be subjective to Apexim, they have a good name for good products. Although I'm not seeing anything special. The velocity stack is promising, but I think its more than the stillen one. Other than that, I can't think of anything other than the filter.
After two days with the new filter on there I can say that it is a bit quieter than the K&N. I'm not officially switching over to Apexi as my new filter of choice but I'm always out looking for better options. The filter is very expensive and is not the best choice for those who want the cheapest thing out there.
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:15 PM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Matrix has the design of a filter for $35 bucks, and about $15 for the adapter, $100+ is a ripoff.
matrix? why not apc??
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by jc008
Is this intake the same as the Jim Wolf Tech. Intake? Better? Worse?
The price is about the same, and so is the design, so i assume that they are both the same in performance.
The APEXi tested better than the others. If I recall correctly k/n was at the bottom of the list.
Old May 14, 2002 | 10:50 PM
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My opinion , stick with KN !
Old May 14, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Nismo


matrix? why not apc??
APC is too expensive! For $1.89 you can buy Mr. Coffee filters and use two of them for normal driving and only one when racing. Why spend the $35 on a Matrix filter when for $1.89 you can get 30 Mr. Coffee filters?
Old May 14, 2002 | 11:04 PM
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Having owned a Matrix filter, as you know Coby, they are a piece of CRAP ! If you have a Max, with a Matrix, you might as well put Teddy Bear 15" wheels too !
Old May 15, 2002 | 04:56 AM
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I just order the Apexi replacement filter. Does this come with the attachment that I will need to adapt it to my setup? I have the Hybrid setup with Monsterflow filter..
Old May 15, 2002 | 05:30 AM
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Originally posted by cobymoby


After two days with the new filter on there I can say that it is a bit quieter than the K&N. I'm not officially switching over to Apexi as my new filter of choice but I'm always out looking for better options. The filter is very expensive and is not the best choice for those who want the cheapest thing out there.
So is the Matrix. The Matrix filter we tested with a adapter costed less than $50 shipped, and it dynoed 2 more hp than a JWT or Stillen pop. Y2KEVSE tested this.
Old May 15, 2002 | 05:31 AM
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APC is too expensive! For $1.89 you can buy Mr. Coffee filters and use two of them for normal driving and only one when racing. Why spend the $35 on a Matrix filter when for $1.89 you can get 30 Mr. Coffee filters?
Matrix is made out of the exact same stuf K&N is, and its oiled as well. Like I said we already proved this. Apexi is a waste of money unless it was made for our cars.
Old May 15, 2002 | 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by RussMaxManiac


Apexi is a waste of money unless it was made for OUR cars.
Got another max Russ?
Old May 15, 2002 | 08:48 AM
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In all seriousness, do you guys honestly believe that one filter on a pop setup is going to make more power than another filter on the same setup? They're just filters, that's all. It's the overall setup that really makes the power. As long as it's an open cone with a high flow cotton/foam element I don't see how there would be any measureable difference. 1-2 hp difference? That's easily within the error of a Dynojet. I typically get 2-3hp difference between back to back dyno pulls, even with a cool down and nothing was done to the motor between runs.


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Old May 15, 2002 | 12:22 PM
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Is it just the picture or is that filter smaller? Doesn't look like it takes up as much space as the Stillen or JWT filters.
Old May 15, 2002 | 01:54 PM
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Got another max Russ?
Okay maybe I still think I have one! :P
Old May 15, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Originally posted by Dave B
In all seriousness, do you guys honestly believe that one filter on a pop setup is going to make more power than another filter on the same setup? They're just filters, that's all. It's the overall setup that really makes the power. As long as it's an open cone with a high flow cotton/foam element I don't see how there would be any measureable difference. 1-2 hp difference? That's easily within the error of a Dynojet. I typically get 2-3hp difference between back to back dyno pulls, even with a cool down and nothing was done to the motor between runs.


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Ok my .org rating should say newbie, but I would think that a filter with more surface area would have less resistance when under a vacuum. So if my car is sucking in 19,500 (3.0 litres x 6500 rpms) litres of air a minute and has to do this through a filter with a surface area of 100 sq inchs(fictious number) that would mean my car would have to suck 195 litres of air/sq in of filter. but if you could double that to 200 sq in of surface area it would have less resistance because it would be sucking 97.5 litres of air/sq in of surface area.

So having a JWT/Apexi filter that has a larger surface area would ease the engine in having to breath over a larger area WONT produce any extra horse power?

How often do you Dyno your car? I've had mine done twice and the number was only .2-.3 hp difference not 2 or 3FWHP off. Maybe I'm just lucky.
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Originally posted by cobymoby


After two days with the new filter on there I can say that it is a bit quieter than the K&N. I'm not officially switching over to Apexi as my new filter of choice but I'm always out looking for better options. The filter is very expensive and is not the best choice for those who want the cheapest thing out there.
can you get an apexi filter that will fit the PR CAI??
Old May 16, 2002 | 12:59 AM
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Originally posted by SLC I30t
Ok my .org rating should say newbie, but I would think that a filter with more surface area would have less resistance when under a vacuum. So if my car is sucking in 19,500 (3.0 litres x 6500 rpms) litres of air a minute and has to do this through a filter with a surface area of 100 sq inchs(fictious number) that would mean my car would have to suck 195 litres of air/sq in of filter. but if you could double that to 200 sq in of surface area it would have less resistance because it would be sucking 97.5 litres of air/sq in of surface area.

So having a JWT/Apexi filter that has a larger surface area would ease the engine in having to breath over a larger area WONT produce any extra horse power?

How often do you Dyno your car? I've had mine done twice and the number was only .2-.3 hp difference not 2 or 3FWHP off. Maybe I'm just lucky.
Redo your math, it's off by a factor of 6
Old May 16, 2002 | 01:00 AM
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can you get an apexi filter that will fit the PR CAI??
Yes, you can buy the filter only kit for $89.
Old May 16, 2002 | 03:46 AM
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can you get an apexi filter that will fit the PR CAI??
I ordered the Apexi filter. It should be here on Tues. I'll let you know how it goes. I don't have the full Cai anymore. Just the PR Cai Hybrid setup..
Old May 16, 2002 | 04:34 AM
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Originally posted by breaux124
Is it just the picture or is that filter smaller? Doesn't look like it takes up as much space as the Stillen or JWT filters.
It definitely looks kind of small. We shouldnt be using the same size filter a a Civic. We all remember when Steve gained a good amount of power by going to a HUGE filter from a GS400...
Old May 16, 2002 | 11:08 AM
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Re: Here are the pictures..>

Originally posted by Jeff K
He posted the pictures in the 5th gen board.

Apexi Intake:
http://home.mindspring.com/~cobymoby/Apexi/
That intake looks cheap (terrible). I drive a 4th gen and got the PR CAI. Looks a lot nicer than having that accordian in there.
Old May 16, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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Re: Re: Here are the pictures..>

Originally posted by 1eyedcalibandit


That intake looks cheap (terrible). I drive a 4th gen and got the PR CAI. Looks a lot nicer than having that accordian in there.
everyone's entitled to their own oppinions......
Old May 16, 2002 | 11:23 AM
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Originally posted by mzmtg


It definitely looks kind of small. We shouldnt be using the same size filter a a Civic. We all remember when Steve gained a good amount of power by going to a HUGE filter from a GS400...
That's the only size they have. It will support the air flow capacities of a 3-3.5 liter engine.
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Re: Re: Here are the pictures..>

The Apexi and KN filter are of par quality. The accordian is not part of the intake Cobymoby is selling. That's your stock tubing.

Originally posted by 1eyedcalibandit
That intake looks cheap (terrible). I drive a 4th gen and got the PR CAI. Looks a lot nicer than having that accordian in there.
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How about just getting the CAI?
Old May 16, 2002 | 03:09 PM
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Bryan, I already have the Berk intake. How much and which parts would I need to upgrade to this one?
Old May 16, 2002 | 08:23 PM
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Originally posted by Highlander
Bryan, I already have the Berk intake. How much and which parts would I need to upgrade to this one?
For the Apexi filter upgrade kit it's $89+8 to ship. I know it's a lot for a filter upgrade but it's because the Apexi is so darn expensive. I can sell you just the Apexi filter for $73, but how are you going to connect it????
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