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Old May 29, 2002 | 08:41 PM
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Is it worth racing a '96 Eclipse GS-T 5spd?...

Or will the Eclipse ('96 stock GS-T 5spd) just kill me (stock auto)? Can somebody post the stats for them?
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Old May 29, 2002 | 08:45 PM
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my friend's best in his '95 GST 5spd... 14.9963....but I've seen some guys only run 15.1-.2s...so a heavily modded 4th gen auto might hang.

but all in all my advise to you, don't put any money on this one!
Old May 29, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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If he's modded, forget it. Best chance for you if he's stock and not running a boost controller. You better have some mods too, if you're close to stock then I have to say he'll take you for sure.
Old May 29, 2002 | 08:50 PM
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Since you're a stock auto and he's 5 speed, there's no point at all (except just for fun.) Just don't put any money on it.
Old May 29, 2002 | 08:52 PM
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Try it...

I have a 97 Talon TSI AWD turbo stock.
I have a 99Max Ypipe/CAI/RTcat/Greddy/UDP.
My cuz and I would race them as I Modded up the Max.

Before my mods:
CAI and UDP...lost 2 car lengths
added Greddy/RTcat...win/even/win/win
Ypipe added....Win...Crushed...win 2 to 3 car lengths.

I probably could have Modded up the Talon but I 've been waiting to sell it/trade it for a WRX..maybe now EVO 2003.
Old May 29, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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Well then I guess I'll just race him for fun ... Hopefully he'll misshift and I'll slide by. And that Integra won't race me for more than $50... Oh well, atleast it's something right.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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Old May 30, 2002 | 06:46 AM
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Hey man, race the GST from like a 70 roll on the interstate . The T25 in the 2g's runs outta breath on top end.
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I beat one, and I had just an intake, and exhaust, before I got the Y-Pipe.
Old May 30, 2002 | 08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Chimp Dj
I beat one, and I had just an intake, and exhaust, before I got the Y-Pipe.
Was it close? Was it an experienced driver? I have a intake and I can drive my car pretty well (not trying to brag or anything), but none the less I think the GS-T is a faster car.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 10:36 AM
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yeah link Yomie said try and race him on a roll on the highway, if its the stock turbo they do tend to run out of steam up top. but the stock VQ isn't no champ in the high end either so I still don't think you'll take him, ESPECIALLY since you're auto!!
Old May 30, 2002 | 10:39 AM
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Get the MEVI!
Old May 30, 2002 | 10:44 AM
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Originally posted by Jeff92se
Get the MEVI!
I'd get the y-pipe first.

I made $50 racing that Integra earlier today! Easy kill!!! I had about 4 or 5 carlengths ar 80MpH at which point I cut off... he paid up on the spot, a very honest guy. I have respect for him as he didn't talk any trash about the Maxima before and after the race. Of course he can't really... becaus he is a 4dr auto too!
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Old May 30, 2002 | 10:49 AM
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Originally posted by Vyrus
I'd get the y-pipe first.
I'm starting to think otherwise for the 4th gens at least....I know its more expensive, but at the track last friday "Speedtrip"(VQ 5spd) ran a 15.1 with just the MEVI and cone filter and this was on a bad day at the track imagine what he could do on a good day! thats enough right there to beat the average GST on the track and probably on the road!!
Old May 30, 2002 | 11:24 AM
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stock 95 GS-T runs about 15.5. My VE 5 spd has beat all of them I raced, unless they've started playing with the boost.. (then it's a whole different ball game).

I can take any stock GSX, except for off the line too... Then again, give me a 1/4 mile and I can make it up and pass them by the end.
raced a friend's 97 GSX from a light in his a while back, and of course he left me at the start, but by 2/3 through 2nd, I was just about even. he hit a bump and missed his shift into 3rd and over revved it and messed up something in the engine. DOH! good thing he only had 25k miles and was still under factory warranty!


but stock for stock, it'll be close between you two. I wouldn't put more money on it than you care to blow in an evening on beer and pizza.
Old May 30, 2002 | 11:27 AM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
stock 95 GS-T runs about 15.5.
Why am I hearing such different times from you guys? Yes, he is STOCK... and I only have an intake. If he runs abour a 15.5 then I think I have a good chance since he's only had the car for a week and I can drive very well with my autotragic.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 11:32 AM
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personally I've never seen a 5spd GST/X run a 15.5...the guys I hang around most of them at stock were running 14.9's to 15.2s flat out. the only high numbers I've seen were from the one auto guy in the group 15.8+/-......and you can't blame driver error in that! I'm not saying Matt is wrong, but I'm just reporting what I've seen and know.

Originally posted by Vyrus

Why am I hearing such different times from you guys? Yes, he is STOCK... and I only have an intake. If he runs abour a 15.5 then I think I have a good chance since he's only had the car for a week and I can drive very well with my autotragic.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 01:07 PM
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www.car-stats.com

it's published, so it MUST be true.

as far as my experiences, what I've seen on the road and raced, they follow those numbers very well. GSX runs 15.2 and GST runs 15.5... it takes me almost 1/4 mile to catch up to a GSX because of the launch (I ran 15.0 at the track the one time I went)..
I can take a GST off the line and stay in front the whole time. by 100mph, they're quite a distance behind.. I'd say about 1/2 second.


then again, if you see them at the track that run better, then great. it's also possible that they're powershifting and have done other things to the car and still say they're stock.
It's also very possible that the magazine source most of those numbers from wasn't driving the car as hard as a kid at the track who doesn't care if they blow it up.
Old May 30, 2002 | 01:11 PM
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Originally posted by Matt93SE
www.car-stats.com

it's published, so it MUST be true.
That's with an automatic tranny.
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Old May 30, 2002 | 02:23 PM
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just race him for fun and see what happens...if he wins just tell him that in another month his engine will probably go bad and he'll start to hear an annoying clacking/ticking noise...good 'ole ****shbishi!
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Originally posted by Vyrus

and I can drive very well with my autotragic.
-Cyrus
I can hold the pedal all the way to the floor also! Go us!


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Old May 30, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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I raced a GS-T when I had my 96 Maxima SE, all stock except for Eibachs. I was auto, on 16" SE wheels, and he WHOOPED me. It was fun, I think I surprised him through first gear, but when he hit second, he said to me, CYA!
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Originally posted by speednsound007


I can hold the pedal all the way to the floor also! Go us!


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Old May 30, 2002 | 04:11 PM
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chimp your in a 2k what ya expect... i also beat one by half a car and yeah it was a experienced driver, however the first time we raced i was having ecu problems and he won by 2 or 3 car lengths

Originally posted by Chimp Dj
I beat one, and I had just an intake, and exhaust, before I got the Y-Pipe.
Old May 30, 2002 | 06:30 PM
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Was it close? Was it an experienced driver? I have a intake and I can drive my car pretty well (not trying to brag or anything), but none the less I think the GS-T is a faster car.
-Cyrus
friend of a friend at a chance meeting at a traffic light, and we went at it, I hooked up right away off the line, and he did peel out a bit, but he never caught me from start to 80mph.

Only one way to find out, and thats to run it.

I ran a modified GST @ DPA's famed "Industry", which is a 1/4mi, maybe some more, and I consistently beat him. I had all the bolt ons, before nitrous. I was able to beat him, it was a 98 GS T, intake, BOV, but he retained the stock exhaust. I had to manually shift the poop out of my car just to stay ahead, but by 95mph I was ahead by almost a car length, and it was the start, that got me ahead, and thats the way it stayed.
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chimp your in a 2k what ya expect... i also beat one by half a car and yeah it was a experienced driver, however the first time we raced i was having ecu problems and he won by 2 or 3 car lengths

My 2K had less than 10K miles on it, I have over 73K miles now, and approaching 74K, in about 2 weeks at this rate.

BTW is your car auto or stick ? At that time I got my booty whupped by a 5spd, until I came back to DPA w/ juice, then I got my revenge on a lot of people.
Old May 31, 2002 | 01:37 AM
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Re: Is it worth racing a '96 Eclipse GS-T 5spd?...

Originally posted by Vyrus
Or will the Eclipse ('96 stock GS-T 5spd) just kill me (stock auto)? Can somebody post the stats for them?
Thanks,
-Cyrus
Stock naw unless he misshifts when i was stock the only way i beat the guy is we raced like almost and eighth and he spun fer like 2 seconds at the line but then we ran again and he adjusted boost to 17psi and whopped me like 2 lengths but thas ok cause when i got the giggle gas it was curtins for him. But if ya want to maybe he will spin fer a while at the line those things arent to good with traction cause it s only a GST
Old May 31, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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Originally posted by Vyrus

That's with an automatic tranny.
-Cyrus
DOH!
anyway, the times on the 5 spds seem to follow pretty close to those, at least from what I've seen on the street. haven't found a stock eclipse of any trim that I couldn't take, and I know I don't run faster than 14.8.
Old May 31, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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I know a kid who has a GS-T and he said he went to the track and ran a 15.0 flat when he was stock. He played with the boost a little after that, got some other mods, exhaust, intake, piping, etc. and said when he went to the track the next time he was running 14.1-.2 consistently, with subs in his trunk and on 18" wheels. I think him being stock, he has anywhere from a 15.0 to 15.5 sec. car and so it will just all depend. I think you might have a chance depending on launches, etc. but I wouldn't put any big money on it. Just my 2 cents.
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Re: Is it worth racing a '96 Eclipse GS-T 5spd?...

Originally posted by Vyrus
Or will the Eclipse ('96 stock GS-T 5spd) just kill me (stock auto)? Can somebody post the stats for them?
Thanks,
-Cyrus
are u blind? j/k...

if you're car is a stock auto..sorry, but u won't stand a chance against the 5 speed GS-Ts..
u can go after the GSs and RSs tho...
Old Jun 1, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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Re: Re: Is it worth racing a '96 Eclipse GS-T 5spd?...

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u can go after the GSs and RSs tho...
watch out for the ones with turbo kits though.... ever seen a RS Eclipse run a 13.8!!!
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