97 auto VS 97 5 spd .... the video
06-06-2002, 01:57 PM
#81
Originally posted by ivolley
I would love to be the camera car but I am babying my new clutch, once I am broken in I will be at the track fellas.
I would love to be the camera car but I am babying my new clutch, once I am broken in I will be at the track fellas.
06-06-2002, 02:19 PM
#82
Had it put on yesterday (Wednesday)and had the throw out bearing and slave cylinder replaced. The engagement is feather light it is just killing me to baby it. I have not gon above 3500 rpms for the last 120 miles it is amazing how quiet and intake is when you never go WOT.
How is the 5th gen Muffler I am sure your car is quieter any other differences?
How is the 5th gen Muffler I am sure your car is quieter any other differences?
Originally posted by bags533
when did you put it on? How do you like it?
when did you put it on? How do you like it?
06-06-2002, 02:35 PM
#83
Originally posted by ivolley
Had it put on yesterday (Wednesday)and had the throw out bearing and slave cylinder replaced. The engagement is feather light it is just killing me to baby it. I have not gon above 3500 rpms for the last 120 miles it is amazing how quiet and intake is when you never go WOT.
How is the 5th gen Muffler I am sure your car is quieter any other differences?
Had it put on yesterday (Wednesday)and had the throw out bearing and slave cylinder replaced. The engagement is feather light it is just killing me to baby it. I have not gon above 3500 rpms for the last 120 miles it is amazing how quiet and intake is when you never go WOT.
How is the 5th gen Muffler I am sure your car is quieter any other differences?
yeah that damn humm at idle is gone!!! it is quiet ridding around town. I still have the raspy sound when i rev it not in gear.
I really like it. Back to the dyno to see if i lost any HP.
No real difference other than the silence
just wait, break the clutch in and then
06-06-2002, 04:07 PM
#85
Originally posted by darksands
What freeway did you guys do this on... I wanna play too!!! haha
What freeway did you guys do this on... I wanna play too!!! haha
So you can hang out if you like
06-06-2002, 06:52 PM
#86
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even if the autos were faster i still love my 5spd; given the oppourtunity i would take it over a modded auto and a stock 5spd. Its just so much more fun to drive. However , if i had a choice between an m3 w/smg or and m3 w/6spd.......thats a tough one.
06-06-2002, 09:33 PM
#87
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i dont have much 4th gen compititon in ri...i raced 2 4th gen 5spds...beat them both by 3-5 carlengths...now 2000-2001 5 spd its close they take me by 1/2 car or so from 50...i take them by a car from a stop???maybe they arent good drivers??? now ethans(emax) car whoops me...
Ethan we have to go again i still havent raced you with this vbmod...i want to see how it is in comparison to before...
Ethan we have to go again i still havent raced you with this vbmod...i want to see how it is in comparison to before...
06-06-2002, 09:45 PM
#88
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5 speeds will always be faster than an auto given equal mods. Manual trannies put more hp to the wheels and weigh less, giving a superior hp/lbs ratio. Even a stock 5 speed will give a Modded I/Y/E Auto a good run for its money.
06-06-2002, 10:00 PM
#90
Originally posted by BLacKMax69
i dont have much 4th gen compititon in ri...i raced 2 4th gen 5spds...beat them both by 3-5 carlengths...now 2000-2001 5 spd its close they take me by 1/2 car or so from 50...i take them by a car from a stop???maybe they arent good drivers??? now ethans(emax) car whoops me...
Ethan we have to go again i still havent raced you with this vbmod...i want to see how it is in comparison to before...
i dont have much 4th gen compititon in ri...i raced 2 4th gen 5spds...beat them both by 3-5 carlengths...now 2000-2001 5 spd its close they take me by 1/2 car or so from 50...i take them by a car from a stop???maybe they arent good drivers??? now ethans(emax) car whoops me...
Ethan we have to go again i still havent raced you with this vbmod...i want to see how it is in comparison to before...
06-06-2002, 10:09 PM
#91
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well i smoke alot but it doesnt matter...it was a stock 97 dark green 5spd with 18" chromes...from a 40 roll...i pulled hard every gear...and this was before vbmod...stock 4th gen 5 spds arent that quick with an avg driver...some members on the org that drive really well prob could take me...but i havent raced and got beatin by any stock 4th gen 5sp...
06-07-2002, 12:43 AM
#93
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Originally posted by MAX2000JP
5 speeds will always be faster than an auto given equal mods. Manual trannies put more hp to the wheels and weigh less, giving a superior hp/lbs ratio. Even a stock 5 speed will give a Modded I/Y/E Auto a good run for its money.
5 speeds will always be faster than an auto given equal mods. Manual trannies put more hp to the wheels and weigh less, giving a superior hp/lbs ratio. Even a stock 5 speed will give a Modded I/Y/E Auto a good run for its money.
With manuals:
Better launch control
Different gear ratios
Those being equal an auto would easily win. Ever figure out why most F1 cars today are fully auto or at least only require a down shifter? Gotta love those launch control buttons.
06-07-2002, 12:47 AM
#94
Originally posted by Mad Dhan
However , if i had a choice between an m3 w/smg or and m3 w/6spd.......thats a tough one.
However , if i had a choice between an m3 w/smg or and m3 w/6spd.......thats a tough one.
06-07-2002, 02:30 AM
#95
Since the beginning of this thread it occured to me that it all depends on the driver. Good 5-Speed drivers will generally kick butt, while newbies or "granny-shifters" (haha j/k) will lag a bit.
Anyway, great thread. Makes me wonder about the auto I passed down to my sister. Oh well, 5-speed is just so much fun
Anyway, great thread. Makes me wonder about the auto I passed down to my sister. Oh well, 5-speed is just so much fun
06-07-2002, 03:29 AM
#96
Someone help me out. On the second run, when the camera car rolled down its rear window, and bags' white auto max was approaching, what was the sound it made as it passed? Sounded VERY interesting
06-07-2002, 03:39 AM
#97
Originally posted by Turd Ferguson
Someone help me out. On the second run, when the camera car rolled down its rear window, and bags' white auto max was approaching, what was the sound it made as it passed? Sounded VERY interesting
Someone help me out. On the second run, when the camera car rolled down its rear window, and bags' white auto max was approaching, what was the sound it made as it passed? Sounded VERY interesting
sounds like a car with a ypipe and cat back exhaust to me
I do have a 2001 maxima se muffler, BUT my car is still kinda loud. If your refering to any hidden mod, NOS or anything, else try again.
I clearly stated what my mods were in the first thread.
06-07-2002, 04:37 AM
#99
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Re: 97 auto VS 97 5 spd .... the video
Gotta love it!
Originally posted by bags533
Ok, I am posting this to show a point. There are some people who think a 5 spd WILL ALWAYS beat an AUTO. Even a modded auto vs a stock 5 spd. This video is for you. Now there are some of you that know you win some you lose some. This is just a little something to kill 60 seconds of your life.
Notice I did NOT say I can beat ALL 5 spds.
The wht max is mine the 97 se auto. Mods are, CAI,Y-pipe,Hi flow cat, after market b-pipe, stock 2001 SE muffler
The other max is a 97 se 5 spd. Modded with a y-pipe and I can't remember if it has a cat back exhaust or not. BUT it DOES have STOCK intake.
SO yes I do have a slight advantage. BTW do not ask me who the owner is, I did not ask him if I could post this.
Also my server will slow down when the 300 people d/l it. PLEASE RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE AS
Racing is stupid and Illegal. Don't do it. You might kill someone. Do NOT try this. I will not be held liable for somone jumping off the bridge with me.
RACE
Ok, I am posting this to show a point. There are some people who think a 5 spd WILL ALWAYS beat an AUTO. Even a modded auto vs a stock 5 spd. This video is for you. Now there are some of you that know you win some you lose some. This is just a little something to kill 60 seconds of your life.
Notice I did NOT say I can beat ALL 5 spds.
The wht max is mine the 97 se auto. Mods are, CAI,Y-pipe,Hi flow cat, after market b-pipe, stock 2001 SE muffler
The other max is a 97 se 5 spd. Modded with a y-pipe and I can't remember if it has a cat back exhaust or not. BUT it DOES have STOCK intake.
SO yes I do have a slight advantage. BTW do not ask me who the owner is, I did not ask him if I could post this.
Also my server will slow down when the 300 people d/l it. PLEASE RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE AS
Racing is stupid and Illegal. Don't do it. You might kill someone. Do NOT try this. I will not be held liable for somone jumping off the bridge with me.
RACE
06-07-2002, 09:29 PM
#100
Ok, since I have access to a fully modded auto and a bone stock 5 speed. Both 92 SE's. I have raced from a dead stop as you see in the video, 25,30,35,40,45mph rolls, and now today tried it at a dead even 65mph up to 105ish. NO CONTEST! The auto falls victim to the stock 5 speed by about 5-6 cars up to 105mph. The 5 speed was in 3rd the whole time. There is no way a auto is as fast as a 5 speed, well if the 5 speed driver is an idiot and doesnt deserve to drive a 5 speed.
06-07-2002, 10:30 PM
#101
Originally posted by dmontzmax
Ok, since I have access to a fully modded auto and a bone stock 5 speed. Both 92 SE's. I have raced from a dead stop as you see in the video, 25,30,35,40,45mph rolls, and now today tried it at a dead even 65mph up to 105ish. NO CONTEST! The auto falls victim to the stock 5 speed by about 5-6 cars up to 105mph. The 5 speed was in 3rd the whole time. There is no way a auto is as fast as a 5 speed, well if the 5 speed driver is an idiot and doesnt deserve to drive a 5 speed.
Ok, since I have access to a fully modded auto and a bone stock 5 speed. Both 92 SE's. I have raced from a dead stop as you see in the video, 25,30,35,40,45mph rolls, and now today tried it at a dead even 65mph up to 105ish. NO CONTEST! The auto falls victim to the stock 5 speed by about 5-6 cars up to 105mph. The 5 speed was in 3rd the whole time. There is no way a auto is as fast as a 5 speed, well if the 5 speed driver is an idiot and doesnt deserve to drive a 5 speed.
Try again.... Maybe you can't, but I can.
BTW try racing him from about 90-130 or so and see what the outcome is.
But you can't win them all. If you could it would give you nothing to AIM for.
06-07-2002, 10:32 PM
#102
geez, an auto beats a five speed ON TAPE, and there are still some people saying it can't be done. While I agree that the general rule of thumb is that five speeds are faster, autotragics do have their sweet spots.
06-07-2002, 10:38 PM
#104
Originally posted by dmontzmax
ok, I will try that next, it will have to be late night. But then if he takes me, I come to my personal conclusion. He wont even get out of 4th
ok, I will try that next, it will have to be late night. But then if he takes me, I come to my personal conclusion. He wont even get out of 4th
And yes KLoWnPR109 said it best, we do have our sweet spots.
BTW next time your in bumper to bumper traffic look around at the 5 spd drivers who can do anything but shift while you can drink a coke , or mess with the radio..
AS LONG AS YOU PAY ATTENTION to the road.
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