97 auto VS 97 5 spd .... the video

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06-05-2002, 03:39 PM

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97 auto VS 97 5 spd .... the video

Ok, I am posting this to show a point. There are some people who think a 5 spd WILL ALWAYS beat an AUTO. Even a modded auto vs a stock 5 spd. This video is for you. Now there are some of you that know you win some you lose some. This is just a little something to kill 60 seconds of your life.

Notice I did NOT say I can beat ALL 5 spds.

The wht max is mine the 97 se auto. Mods are, CAI,Y-pipe,Hi flow cat, after market b-pipe, stock 2001 SE muffler

The other max is a 97 se 5 spd. Modded with a y-pipe and I can't remember if it has a cat back exhaust or not. BUT it DOES have STOCK intake.

SO yes I do have a slight advantage. BTW do not ask me who the owner is, I did not ask him if I could post this.

Also my server will slow down when the 300 people d/l it. PLEASE RIGHT CLICK AND SAVE AS

Racing is stupid and Illegal. Don't do it. You might kill someone. Do NOT try this. I will not be held liable for somone jumping off the bridge with me.

RACE

06-05-2002, 03:51 PM

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nice run. So you won by about a car length? What mph did you guys start out at?

06-05-2002, 04:16 PM

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nice runs. I respect modded autos

god DAMN!! I need an intake!

06-05-2002, 04:17 PM

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nice run. So you won by about a car length? What mph did you guys start out at?

thanks, the first race was very close and started about 60 mph....

the second race started at about 50 and it was about a car length by the time we shutdown

06-05-2002, 04:19 PM

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good job!

06-05-2002, 04:39 PM

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Wheres all the 5spd guys to say "theres no way an auto can beat a stick".....

06-05-2002, 04:42 PM

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06-05-2002, 04:52 PM

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sticks hold the biggest advantage starting from a standstill, not as much when your going from a roll

06-05-2002, 04:58 PM

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I thought that the gearing advantage went to the 5 speed even from a roll? It doesn't matter really though, because for once, someone has proof.

06-05-2002, 05:00 PM

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Nice run bags! Looks like you won convincingly.

06-05-2002, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by nardo'89SE
sticks hold the biggest advantage starting from a standstill, not as much when your going from a roll

Really, hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

06-05-2002, 05:04 PM

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Good Point!

06-05-2002, 05:05 PM

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thanks steve, wish I could get better 60 ft times

thanks costco

chillwill- your right, But not all of them are like that. and a few will be changing there minds soon

luke - hehehehehe

supermacho-thanks. win some, lose some. I won that day

06-05-2002, 05:44 PM

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Bags...was the magical OD button off on those runs?

06-05-2002, 06:16 PM

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Bags...was the magical OD button off on those runs?

actually it was

the other driver will take it to the house like me, so I thought we might have gone above 130, so I wanted to be ready

06-05-2002, 06:23 PM

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06-05-2002, 06:32 PM

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I just wish the auto tranny in our cars are more like some of the domestics. If any of you been an auto domestic car, the auto shifts so much better than the one in the Maxima. No need to worry about OD on/off, just stomp on the gas and go.

06-05-2002, 06:59 PM

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Originally posted by bags533

Really, hhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmm........

Thanks you for this vid. This should be for Craig.

06-05-2002, 07:02 PM

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Thanks you for this vid. This should be for Craig.

06-05-2002, 07:02 PM

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actually it was

the other driver will take it to the house like me, so I thought we might have gone above 130, so I wanted to be ready

So with OD off, what's the limit before you have to turn it back on? not 130mph right? I haven't try it yet, so I'm real curious.

06-05-2002, 07:03 PM

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So with OD off, what's the limit before you have to turn it back on? not 130mph right? I haven't try it yet, so I'm real curious.

110MPH

06-05-2002, 07:04 PM

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110MPH

I turned mine on at 130 mph.

So did mzmtg also I think.

06-05-2002, 07:09 PM

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Thanks you for this vid. This should be for Craig.

What up deez...

Let's see....auto w/ I/Y/E versus a 5-speed with Y. The 5spd is a second faster than the auto, and the auto has a slight advantange mod wise..............

...the 5spd shoulda creamed him easily.

Driver musta been drunk or something

Just kidding bags, good race...I know my '95 autoTRAGIC with CAI, downpipe and dualies pulls like MAD at those speeds.

But seriously, the 5spd should rape you at any speed but those, so I will say smart racin!

06-05-2002, 07:11 PM

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I found that shifting into 4th gen with o/d off @ around 6k is faster

felt like it was running out of air.

06-05-2002, 07:12 PM

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I turned mine on at 130 mph.

So did mzmtg also I think.

wtf? I guess I didnt wait long enough..

06-05-2002, 07:17 PM

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I turned mine on at 130 mph.

So did mzmtg also I think.

130mph? Wow, I haven't try going that far with OD off before.

06-05-2002, 07:19 PM

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wtf? I guess I didnt wait long enough..

Remember mzmtg's sig at one point? The one where it's pegged at 130 mph.

06-05-2002, 07:21 PM

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My God OD "off" up to 130?? I get scared when I keep mine off above freaking 60mph

....are their any negative consequences for leaving "off" that long??? I know manual says 55-60.....

06-05-2002, 07:21 PM

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Remember mzmtg's sig at one point? The one where it's pegged at 130 mph.

Thats OD off!?!?!?!

I dont think I can do that..

06-05-2002, 07:22 PM

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Quote:

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So with OD off, what's the limit before you have to turn it back on? not 130mph right? I haven't try it yet, so I'm real curious.

no 130, takes it just past redline and then hit o/d button.

and hang on

06-05-2002, 07:26 PM

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My God OD "off" up to 130?? I get scared when I keep mine off above freaking 60mph ....are their any negative consequences for leaving "off" that long??? I know manual says 55-60.....

your pushing you motor harder, BUT it's in it's strongest gear. I drive at about 110.. but when push comes to shove, i'm good for about 140.

I have riddin at about 120ish for about an hour or so. If you want to play hard, be prepared, your going to wear out the engine faster

06-05-2002, 07:29 PM

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Wanna race my slow stick?

It's even stock.

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06-05-2002, 07:44 PM

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Wanna race my slow stick?

It's even stock.

Stereodude

ok. I already have your muffler and soon I will have your intake manifold.

But I won't have your weight..So yes I will race your 5spd.

Btw This is why we play the game, right? Numbers = Crap... anything can happen, wether you can drive or not ain't my problem, you want to run? be ready, you won't catch me slippin.

06-05-2002, 07:51 PM

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hurts your gas mileage too.

06-05-2002, 07:53 PM

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hurts your gas mileage too.

but are we really worried about gas mileage at that point?

I know I should be. If the prices keep going up

06-05-2002, 08:04 PM

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but are we really worried about gas mileage at that point?

I know I should be. If the prices keep going up

lol...true.

bags...how about on the street do you have OD on or off? I have OD on full time on the street. Seem like it doesn't make much of a difference from a stop. I only play with the OD off when I'm on the highway.

06-05-2002, 08:30 PM

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Nice video. I've got lots of respect for the autos. I've never raced BSwithTF (Travis) and his 96 GXE auto (y-pipe, catback, ECU, VB, CAI, UDP), but he's pretty competitive with me ET wise on the same track. I've got a y-pipe, POP, B-pipe, and UDP. He runs 15.0-15.2s where as I run 14.6-14.8. If we were to race, assuming the same reaction times, I would probably only put 2 cars on him at most with much of the distance occuring from the last 1/8 on. The big difference between the auto and 5 speed is trap speed. Travis usually gets 91-92mph where as I get 96-97mph. That's pretty significant. I think the 5 speeds strong point is it's 3rd and 4th gear. The autos just can't match the pull and it's clearly shown in the most of the trap speeds on this board. 5 speeds are typically 3-5mph faster thru the 1/4 mile even though the ETs are relatively close (within .3-.5 seconds).

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06-05-2002, 10:02 PM

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Lucky Kill

What gear did he punch it in? It didnt seem like he took it down to third. Here is a vid of my highly modded auto vs. bone stock 5 speed. I have got the auto to run a little closer to the 5 speed now. But I still get roasted. This was a normal launch, with no torque braking, also the 5 speed launched @2500rpm. Since then I have launched the auto @ 1200rpm, and still got killed.

http://autos.werd.com/nummaonenutsaq/vids/misc/

06-05-2002, 10:22 PM

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Lucky Kill What gear did he punch it in? It didnt seem like he took it down to third. Here is a vid of my highly modded auto vs. bone stock 5 speed. I have got the auto to run a little closer to the 5 speed now. But I still get roasted. This was a normal launch, with no torque braking, also the 5 speed launched @2500rpm. Since then I have launched the auto @ 1200rpm, and still got killed.

http://autos.werd.com/nummaonenutsaq/vids/misc/

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