MOTM for July
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Originally posted by bill99gxe
You made zero effort to articulate that point at the appropriate time in your original post. Therefore, we have to treat such comments as a lack of effort on the thread instigator's part. It's the nature of our business.
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I'm the moderator, you are not. I call them as I see them, especially when you are coming down on a moderator. It is politely asked in the rules for you to take grievances up with that moderator privately, not in the General Forum as it doesn't belong here. Because that procedure was not followed, comments and judgments from moderator(s) are beyond reproach.
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See prior response.
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You're correct.....at least not until I follow through with them.
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Let's review the content of your original post, shall we?
and then this one:
Tell me how your post(s) was/were:
A) Respectful of Kev's efforts
B) Appropriate for a public forum
C) Construes an ioda of maturity on your part
Words mean things. Your abuse of language caused my abuse of language towards you. The problem lies with the person you see when you look in the mirror.
Kev isn't the Almighty, but he is a RESPECTED leader BY EVERYONE. Cuts at him WON'T BE TOLERATED HERE. You are nothing.
Again, you should have handled it privately or through the Feedback forum or stated your case in a mature manner instead of the way you initiated the flame war.
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No, but being an outcast is what you become when you don't respect the leadership here, other member's rides, and try to portray yourself as a sweet, innocent little member who is being "oppressed" by moderators. That crap gets you nowhere on these forums.
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You really have no clue what you are asking for.....
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I'm also understanding that there are more rather than less members who would prefer to b!tch and moan about every little thing rather than contribute and help. But, oh well that does require more effort than saying the MOTM is bullsh!t.....
Not when someone else instigates the flaming. [/B]
You made zero effort to articulate that point at the appropriate time in your original post. Therefore, we have to treat such comments as a lack of effort on the thread instigator's part. It's the nature of our business.
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I'm the moderator, you are not. I call them as I see them, especially when you are coming down on a moderator. It is politely asked in the rules for you to take grievances up with that moderator privately, not in the General Forum as it doesn't belong here. Because that procedure was not followed, comments and judgments from moderator(s) are beyond reproach.
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See prior response.
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You're correct.....at least not until I follow through with them.
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Let's review the content of your original post, shall we?
and then this one:
Tell me how your post(s) was/were:
A) Respectful of Kev's efforts
B) Appropriate for a public forum
C) Construes an ioda of maturity on your part
Words mean things. Your abuse of language caused my abuse of language towards you. The problem lies with the person you see when you look in the mirror.
Kev isn't the Almighty, but he is a RESPECTED leader BY EVERYONE. Cuts at him WON'T BE TOLERATED HERE. You are nothing.
Again, you should have handled it privately or through the Feedback forum or stated your case in a mature manner instead of the way you initiated the flame war.
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No, but being an outcast is what you become when you don't respect the leadership here, other member's rides, and try to portray yourself as a sweet, innocent little member who is being "oppressed" by moderators. That crap gets you nowhere on these forums.
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You really have no clue what you are asking for.....
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I'm also understanding that there are more rather than less members who would prefer to b!tch and moan about every little thing rather than contribute and help. But, oh well that does require more effort than saying the MOTM is bullsh!t.....
Not when someone else instigates the flaming. [/B]
Originally posted by look2me40
Kev, your beloved leader, got loud with me when I thought I brought up a good point.
Kev, your beloved leader, got loud with me when I thought I brought up a good point.
Originally posted by look2me40
I READ the thread he posted and yes, back when that happened, maybe there was a lot of arguing and bickering...but maybe we should open a discussion (once again) on the subject?
I READ the thread he posted and yes, back when that happened, maybe there was a lot of arguing and bickering...but maybe we should open a discussion (once again) on the subject?
So NO discussion will not be reopened unless I change my mind or Jamie says otherwise.
Originally posted by look2me40
That was my intention. Bill, refrain from your 'dumbass' comments because that will do nothing but start static. If you need to resort to calling people names...then maybe the word is more suited for you?
That was my intention. Bill, refrain from your 'dumbass' comments because that will do nothing but start static. If you need to resort to calling people names...then maybe the word is more suited for you?
Originally posted by look2me40
Your promises, threats, words have no effect on me. I don't care if Kev is the Almighty himself...there was no need for him to get loud with ME.
Your promises, threats, words have no effect on me. I don't care if Kev is the Almighty himself...there was no need for him to get loud with ME.
GET THE POINT?!?!?
Originally posted by look2me40
Just as there is no need for the words that you are throwing in my direction. I could care less what you think of me or my threads...believe me, I have seen way dumber subjects. (Lights around the tailpipes?)
Just as there is no need for the words that you are throwing in my direction. I could care less what you think of me or my threads...believe me, I have seen way dumber subjects. (Lights around the tailpipes?)
Originally posted by look2me40
I also could care less if I am banned or become an outcast. If that is what happens to people who make their opinion known so be it.
I also could care less if I am banned or become an outcast. If that is what happens to people who make their opinion known so be it.
Originally posted by look2me40
So, Bill, release the hounds...do your worst. The only wake up call I am getting out of this is the fact I did know there were so many jerks with Maximas.
So, Bill, release the hounds...do your worst. The only wake up call I am getting out of this is the fact I did know there were so many jerks with Maximas.
Originally posted by look2me40
Another thing I am learning is the Moderators need to moderate their own statements every once in a while.
Another thing I am learning is the Moderators need to moderate their own statements every once in a while.
because I can't to be MOTM.
Re: Maxima of the Month
Originally posted by look2me40
Kev...
I do not WANT Maxima of the month nor do I EVER want Maxima of the month on this biased forum.
Kev...
I do not WANT Maxima of the month nor do I EVER want Maxima of the month on this biased forum.
Do some research:
delio
sx7r
irvine78
sleeper
Compare their mods to your mods. Let me know when you're done doing this, okay?
Originally posted by look2me40
Your post to this thread only further lets me know that the system is flawed and I am not the only one that thinks so.
Your post to this thread only further lets me know that the system is flawed and I am not the only one that thinks so.
Originally posted by look2me40
My whole point in saying that 'MOTM is bullsh#t' is the fact that these MOTM threads about 'I nominate so and so' or 'So and so should win MOTM' are totally useless and a huge waste of storage space.
My whole point in saying that 'MOTM is bullsh#t' is the fact that these MOTM threads about 'I nominate so and so' or 'So and so should win MOTM' are totally useless and a huge waste of storage space.
Re: One last thing...
Originally posted by look2me40
Kev...
Next time you start a thread wanting us to vote for you on something to 'represent the Maxima community', remember how you talk to people, you might get more votes.
Kev...
Next time you start a thread wanting us to vote for you on something to 'represent the Maxima community', remember how you talk to people, you might get more votes.
I respect those who respect me... I never attack unless attacked upon. You drew first blood... Seems to me that you have no clue how I operate.
Originally posted by maximus75
We should have a MOTM for each gen because it does mean a lot for some people and we only have 12 months and 5 gens. It may not be the like winning the gold metal but it shows that people have noticed all the hard work we put into our cars and they appreciate it. Just a thought.
We should have a MOTM for each gen because it does mean a lot for some people and we only have 12 months and 5 gens. It may not be the like winning the gold metal but it shows that people have noticed all the hard work we put into our cars and they appreciate it. Just a thought.
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Re: Maxima of the Month
Originally posted by look2me40
Kev...
I do not WANT Maxima of the month nor do I EVER want Maxima of the month on this biased forum. Your post to this thread only further lets me know that the system is flawed and I am not the only one that thinks so. My whole point in saying that 'MOTM is bullsh#t' is the fact that these MOTM threads about 'I nominate so and so' or 'So and so should win MOTM' are totally useless and a huge waste of storage space.
Kev...
I do not WANT Maxima of the month nor do I EVER want Maxima of the month on this biased forum. Your post to this thread only further lets me know that the system is flawed and I am not the only one that thinks so. My whole point in saying that 'MOTM is bullsh#t' is the fact that these MOTM threads about 'I nominate so and so' or 'So and so should win MOTM' are totally useless and a huge waste of storage space.
I do see other cars that are worthy of MOTM, but there is only one car per month, so whoever gets it just be man enough and congratulate them for their accomplishments.
People seem to forget that these moderators don't get paid for their work. They are here on their spare time and could care less if they were here. I've asked Kevin many times why he keeps coming back to this forum if so many people are so ungrateful, but he still does. It's a hobby, so don't take everything like it's set in stone.
Re: Re: Maxima of the Month
Originally posted by Jane97SE
If you really think this forum is flawed, then I should have won MOTM when Kevin started doing this whole thing. What about all of the Norcal people we hang out with (i.e CalsonicSE, Turbo95Max, Mingo, EvilYak, enticiveblkmax, etc.). Hell, if this whole this was biased bill, jeff92se, mzmtg, shing, clee would have won MOTM already. I don't see why you think it's so biased. And why did you start 2 threads asking if your car is worthy enough to be MOTM if you didn't want MOTM? Grow up and stop your whining. I don't see why MOTM is so damn important for some of you. This isn't real life. If you think your car is good and you've acomplished a lot on it, then so be it. No need to make a scene and make yourself look like a crying baby b/c you didn't get what you wanted.
I do see other cars that are worthy of MOTM, but there is only one car per month, so whoever gets it just be man enough and congratulate them for their accomplishments.
People seem to forget that these moderators don't get paid for their work. They are here on their spare time and could care less if they were here. I've asked Kevin many times why he keeps coming back to this forum if so many people are so ungrateful, but he still does. It's a hobby, so don't take everything like it's set in stone.
If you really think this forum is flawed, then I should have won MOTM when Kevin started doing this whole thing. What about all of the Norcal people we hang out with (i.e CalsonicSE, Turbo95Max, Mingo, EvilYak, enticiveblkmax, etc.). Hell, if this whole this was biased bill, jeff92se, mzmtg, shing, clee would have won MOTM already. I don't see why you think it's so biased. And why did you start 2 threads asking if your car is worthy enough to be MOTM if you didn't want MOTM? Grow up and stop your whining. I don't see why MOTM is so damn important for some of you. This isn't real life. If you think your car is good and you've acomplished a lot on it, then so be it. No need to make a scene and make yourself look like a crying baby b/c you didn't get what you wanted.
I do see other cars that are worthy of MOTM, but there is only one car per month, so whoever gets it just be man enough and congratulate them for their accomplishments.
People seem to forget that these moderators don't get paid for their work. They are here on their spare time and could care less if they were here. I've asked Kevin many times why he keeps coming back to this forum if so many people are so ungrateful, but he still does. It's a hobby, so don't take everything like it's set in stone.
Someone wants to be a cry baby cause they have some big wheels on a 2k2 and they don't have everyone drooling over their car. I can think of lots of cars that deserve it...
MardiGrasMax
Blake
Deac (what an amazing car)
Jane97SE
Phil96SE (when he had it)
turbo95max (built motor)
Maximus75
RedmaxPA007
97Maxgurl
theNewClimax
thebigsadler
nymjayjay
confused
Craig B
DanNY
VolkRacingMaxima
jhans114
ogredave
dmbmaxima2k2 (making frankencar products)
emax
mattcalder
Etc...
Not everyone will get it, people wanna cry and whine that they are not chosen, that is not fair to the people that have to make the decisions. It is hard to single out one member when you have quite possibly 100 choices at your fingertips at any given point in time.
It seems like everyone wants some spotlight and glory, and as well lots of people deserve it. But if you are modding your car for the approval of others and for the pats on the back from others then you are into this scene for the wrong reasons. If you mod your car for yourself and the recognition is a byproduct then that is cool. It seems to me that some people have some serious self esteem issues that need to be addressed.
To **** and moan about you not getting it will only ensure that you never get it. I personally would never give him MOTM honors to this guy that attacked Kev... he could be the first boosted 2k2 with a totally custom aerokit running 11's with a wild paint job and I would never give him a second glance.
As a former MOTM, I felt honored that I was singled out amongst my peers, many of whose cars I drool over still to this day. I know I have worked hard on my car, and while honored... I never asked for MOTM, nor was I upset the first couple of times I was "nominated" and didn't get it. Everyone knows I do my own thing for myself...not for the org to drool over...
Attacking Kevin is totally unfair, I personally feel it is one of the meanest things I have seen done on this forum. Kevin is a super nice guy that gives his all to help people, and make the org a better place. We have had a steady MOTM since he took over MOTM duties, IMO the 5th gen forum is one of the better organized ones we have, and he is always pushing the bar with both his car and his resourcefulness here on the org, sharing pics, tips, and other things alot of people here would normally keep to themselves. To beat up on a guy that has given of himself so selflessly here on the org is a sin. It is a sad sad day when Kevin is attacked by someone that obviously is such an egomaniac that part of his Username name is LOOK2ME... if I has to guess I would say he meant to hold down the shift key when he pressed the 2.
People need to learn when they have an issue to take it up in private or go to Jambo. This type of petty antics should not be tolerated. It is inexcusable, the mods here give alot of themselves, and do not merit being the brunt of children's temper tantrums.
look2me40... go get your attention fix at
http://www.everyonelookatmeIamanatte...rvedpsycho.com
-Del
Originally posted by TRUblu2K2
i still vote for Deac over the whole list
i still vote for Deac over the whole list
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:Deac's car ranks right next to Kev's in my book... and Jeff's...custom...custom..custom
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MOTM After-All...
Originally posted by delio
Word...Deac and Jeff's cars are SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT
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Deac's car ranks right next to Kev's in my book... and Jeff's...custom...custom..custom
Word...Deac and Jeff's cars are SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTTTT
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:Deac's car ranks right next to Kev's in my book... and Jeff's...custom...custom..custom
Del... good lookin once again! Thanx or the shout TruBlu! I've never really taken the time to figure what factors go into deciding MOTM so... for the un-informed (myself included until today), sometimes it does seem like the system is lacking in certain areas. Of course all of the .org members who have put so much time, money and effort into making their car unique can tend to get a little emotional when we are deaing with recognition issues. I know I get amped up for shows n stuff and I want to be considered among the best.
On the other hand, now that I know that the system of letting all our members vote backfired because of just what I mentioned above (pride), we all need to respect Kev's "gangsta
and let him do what he does... Its still gonna be tough sometimes because there are plenty of hot Max's on here but only one can be selected per month. I'm a competitor but I'm also a "reluctantly good" sportsman 
and I can respect the fact that Kev has alot of factors to consider. If you dont win for a given month and you want to win the next, just look at what made the past winner stand out and aspire to accomplish the same things they did. SO EVERYONE STOP BEEFIN!!! Its not the end of the world just keep on modding and you'll get yours one way or the other...holla!
Deac
Wow...this has taken up a few minutes out of my day. Let me address the people one at a time. Kev. When I made my statement, I did not see it as a personal attack on you. So when you put your big bold letters in the thread basically telling me to shut the fuc# up, I was taken by surprise. I, at that time, felt you were attacking me for no reason. In my opinion, the moderators do over-react & make crude or mean statements towards people just because they ask a question. So what if they are uninformed and did not perform a 3 hour search to see if the answer to their question is already out there? But, in order to not stray off the subject I will just say Kev, if my statement about MOTM offended YOU directly, I apologize. It was not meant to be an attack on you. Yes I was uninformed, but I think you just could have been a tad reserved in your response to me. You have the best car on the .org and I have asked you questions on numerous occasions and you have answered me promptly. My statement was meant to be an opinion on the whole MOTM process. I was intending to light a fire to have it discussed. Apparently that did not work. Instead people are calling each other names...
Bill...your comments to me as well were a little overboard. Yes I have read the moderator rules. Yes I understand people should not voice opinions about things like MOTM on the forum and it should be taken in private...but I don't see that stopping too many people from doing it. So I assumed it would be ok if I did it. That is the great thing about freedom of speech...I can make my opinions known, and you can call me a dumba$$ for it. But it got out of hand when you personally attacked me. I attacked a process...not you or anyone else.
Jane...I agree with most of your comments. But what I will say was that I posted my 'Can I get a vote for MOTM yet' threads to be sarcastic. I had no intention of wanting to be MOTM. I have NEVER said my car deserves it either. If I did, it was not intentional. Again, those threads were meant to start a discussion on how we could possibly change the process. I feel it is a biased process because there are soooo many Maximas out there and it is left in the hands of only a few. All I wanted was to discuss the issue.
Delio...Your comments were unecessary and I am trying very hard to just let them slide... You don't know me. You have no CLUE what my screename means. You slide right in to the thread and make comments about me? I was NEVER *****!ng about not being MOTM...nor would I ever do that. Your comments about me seeking attention? I am a 28 year old man. I get attention from my family and friends and the attention they provide me has nothing to do with my car. My hobby at this time is modding my car. When I get a mod, I do what 90% of the people on this forum do--I make a post and say 'Hey, check this out' Yes, I take pride in my car. I work hard on it and I put pictures on my webpage to show it off. Last time I checked, you and most everyone on this forum do the exact same thing. A lot of people put their cars in shows...again, it would be because they want to show it off. Anyways, in order to keep it short and nice...Delio, your attack on me was plain childish and you made yourself sound like an a$$ in my opinion. I am not going to respond to you after this thread so keep opening your mouth and make your attacks on me...I have said my peace.
In my opinion, the process is flawed. I will keep it to myself from now on. Also in my opinion, the moderators, while they maintain they can say what they want to people, could be a little nicer to their fellow Maxima owners on occasion. Those are my opinions. I don't see a need to break out the flamethrowers...but if you enjoy a good bonfire, then so be it.
Bill...your comments to me as well were a little overboard. Yes I have read the moderator rules. Yes I understand people should not voice opinions about things like MOTM on the forum and it should be taken in private...but I don't see that stopping too many people from doing it. So I assumed it would be ok if I did it. That is the great thing about freedom of speech...I can make my opinions known, and you can call me a dumba$$ for it. But it got out of hand when you personally attacked me. I attacked a process...not you or anyone else.
Jane...I agree with most of your comments. But what I will say was that I posted my 'Can I get a vote for MOTM yet' threads to be sarcastic. I had no intention of wanting to be MOTM. I have NEVER said my car deserves it either. If I did, it was not intentional. Again, those threads were meant to start a discussion on how we could possibly change the process. I feel it is a biased process because there are soooo many Maximas out there and it is left in the hands of only a few. All I wanted was to discuss the issue.
Delio...Your comments were unecessary and I am trying very hard to just let them slide... You don't know me. You have no CLUE what my screename means. You slide right in to the thread and make comments about me? I was NEVER *****!ng about not being MOTM...nor would I ever do that. Your comments about me seeking attention? I am a 28 year old man. I get attention from my family and friends and the attention they provide me has nothing to do with my car. My hobby at this time is modding my car. When I get a mod, I do what 90% of the people on this forum do--I make a post and say 'Hey, check this out' Yes, I take pride in my car. I work hard on it and I put pictures on my webpage to show it off. Last time I checked, you and most everyone on this forum do the exact same thing. A lot of people put their cars in shows...again, it would be because they want to show it off. Anyways, in order to keep it short and nice...Delio, your attack on me was plain childish and you made yourself sound like an a$$ in my opinion. I am not going to respond to you after this thread so keep opening your mouth and make your attacks on me...I have said my peace.
In my opinion, the process is flawed. I will keep it to myself from now on. Also in my opinion, the moderators, while they maintain they can say what they want to people, could be a little nicer to their fellow Maxima owners on occasion. Those are my opinions. I don't see a need to break out the flamethrowers...but if you enjoy a good bonfire, then so be it.
Well son of a gun! I haven't seen Kevina this mad since some Jetta bozo flamed his cardomain site
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
O really? Like who?
What happened to you wanting it? Hmmmmmmm?????
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TRY TO BE FAIR: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=110384 IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY/OUR DECISION, GO CRY ON ANOTHER FORUM. YOU WANT MOTM... GOOD LUCK IN THIS LIFETIME.
O really? Like who?
What happened to you wanting it? Hmmmmmmm?????
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE TRY TO BE FAIR: http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?threadid=110384 IF YOU DON'T LIKE MY/OUR DECISION, GO CRY ON ANOTHER FORUM. YOU WANT MOTM... GOOD LUCK IN THIS LIFETIME.
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
What point did you bring up? That MOTM is bull$h!t? If you call that a point, you have lots to learn. Next time try researching before opening your mouth. Heresay and assumptions will get you no where in life.
Guess what happened when members tried to discuss? Your remarks towards MOTM are good examples.
So NO discussion will not be reopened unless I change my mind or Jamie says otherwise.
Why don't YOU refrain from making ignorant comments first. You had NO idea how MOTM was run. All you knew were gossip. Making such comments on the voting was totally uncalled for.
Just like how there was no need to criticize me.
GET THE POINT?!?!?
Good, why don't you care less about MOTM voting. Thanks.
Make your opinion... we'll throw a party for you next time you do.
Yes, please see your MOTM comment and how you nominated yourself. Don't act like a little kid just because you're not getting it.
Moderate this: because I can't to be MOTM.
What point did you bring up? That MOTM is bull$h!t? If you call that a point, you have lots to learn. Next time try researching before opening your mouth. Heresay and assumptions will get you no where in life.
Guess what happened when members tried to discuss? Your remarks towards MOTM are good examples.
So NO discussion will not be reopened unless I change my mind or Jamie says otherwise.
Why don't YOU refrain from making ignorant comments first. You had NO idea how MOTM was run. All you knew were gossip. Making such comments on the voting was totally uncalled for.
Just like how there was no need to criticize me.
GET THE POINT?!?!?
Good, why don't you care less about MOTM voting. Thanks.
Make your opinion... we'll throw a party for you next time you do.
Yes, please see your MOTM comment and how you nominated yourself. Don't act like a little kid just because you're not getting it.
Moderate this:
because I can't to be MOTM.
Kev, dont waste your time on him anymore its not worth a new keyboard..
Wow...
What a thread!? I never imagined KevinG ( maybe I shouldn't put the "G" there 
) could get so angry... rightfully. Is it worth all this trouble? I think that because of this thread and all the other like this that you all (the moderators) should CANCEL MOTM. Maybe make a Citizen of the month. There are so many beautiful and unique Maximas on this board ( although my vote goes to Deac 
) but only so many truely helpful people, and I'm sure we (Maxima.Org) could narrow the list down to 5 or so people. Just a thought.
-Cyrus
) could get so angry... rightfully. Is it worth all this trouble? I think that because of this thread and all the other like this that you all (the moderators) should CANCEL MOTM. Maybe make a Citizen of the month. There are so many beautiful and unique Maximas on this board ( although my vote goes to Deac ) but only so many truely helpful people, and I'm sure we (Maxima.Org) could narrow the list down to 5 or so people. Just a thought. -Cyrus
i would make whats his name, the one whos *****ing about MOTM a small area on my site, just to shut him up, but its not worth my time. btw, if mods locked this thread, he would just whine about it, so if we ignore him he would just assume he was right, thats upto each one of us on how much we care.
I still dont think he has gotten Kev and the other moderators or other members point about why they are yelling at him. most of the time when people have express theyre own opinion everyone respects that, and then they go on with theyre life, sometimes people will debate it, often to get an understanding on why people think something is better. this is all Ok except when people try to force theyre own opinions onto others and when they wont let down when they know theyre wrong.
hell people may not give me the light of day because my max isnt modded very much and I dont know how to do everything on my max, but thats mainly because of a few reasonable reasons. 1. im not allowed to mod anymore, 2. I dont have enough money to mod. 3. im only 17 and havent had the oppurtunity to take apart my car completly or the time to pursue things in a trial and error fashion.
Also, I dont believe you when you say you dont care about MOTM, because if you truely didnt, then you would not have contridicted yourself and you would not pursue this conversation.
I wish i was the MOTM but i have not earned it compared to other owners. I would actually rather wait until i put more time and effort and money (mainly money) into my max. I am proud of my current acclomplishments though!
now for a lesson in what you should have done.
-recommend a solution to the problem, make sure you have though this through.
ill help you out with this. here is a valid idea that makes sense, "I feel that the MOTM is unfair because it favors the owners that have more money/time/knowledge and it doesnt give some of us lower level Maxima owners the oppurtunity to showcase our maximas, or we dont want to take ours to the same level as the MOTM usually takes. A possiable solution to this problem could be to split up the MOTM into a seperate categories, possiable based on price or mod level. As for mentioned you could split it up into generations, although theyre could be a problem with 1st and possiable 2nd generation maximas."
just an idea, have a good one, i hope i effected someone in someway.
MrGone
I still dont think he has gotten Kev and the other moderators or other members point about why they are yelling at him. most of the time when people have express theyre own opinion everyone respects that, and then they go on with theyre life, sometimes people will debate it, often to get an understanding on why people think something is better. this is all Ok except when people try to force theyre own opinions onto others and when they wont let down when they know theyre wrong.
hell people may not give me the light of day because my max isnt modded very much and I dont know how to do everything on my max, but thats mainly because of a few reasonable reasons. 1. im not allowed to mod anymore, 2. I dont have enough money to mod. 3. im only 17 and havent had the oppurtunity to take apart my car completly or the time to pursue things in a trial and error fashion.
Also, I dont believe you when you say you dont care about MOTM, because if you truely didnt, then you would not have contridicted yourself and you would not pursue this conversation.
I wish i was the MOTM but i have not earned it compared to other owners. I would actually rather wait until i put more time and effort and money (mainly money) into my max. I am proud of my current acclomplishments though!
now for a lesson in what you should have done.
-recommend a solution to the problem, make sure you have though this through.
ill help you out with this. here is a valid idea that makes sense, "I feel that the MOTM is unfair because it favors the owners that have more money/time/knowledge and it doesnt give some of us lower level Maxima owners the oppurtunity to showcase our maximas, or we dont want to take ours to the same level as the MOTM usually takes. A possiable solution to this problem could be to split up the MOTM into a seperate categories, possiable based on price or mod level. As for mentioned you could split it up into generations, although theyre could be a problem with 1st and possiable 2nd generation maximas."
just an idea, have a good one, i hope i effected someone in someway.
MrGone
Originally posted by look2me40
Wow...this has taken up a few minutes out of my day. Let me address the people one at a time. Kev. When I made my statement, I did not see it as a personal attack on you.
Wow...this has taken up a few minutes out of my day. Let me address the people one at a time. Kev. When I made my statement, I did not see it as a personal attack on you.
Originally posted by look2me40
MOTM is a bullsh#t! There are some Max's out there that are way better than some of these recently posted MOTM.
MOTM is a bullsh#t! There are some Max's out there that are way better than some of these recently posted MOTM.
Again:
delio
sx7r
irvine78
sleeper
Find me "better" Maximas.
Originally posted by look2me40
So when you put your big bold letters in the thread basically telling me to shut the fuc# up, I was taken by surprise. I, at that time, felt you were attacking me for no reason.
So when you put your big bold letters in the thread basically telling me to shut the fuc# up, I was taken by surprise. I, at that time, felt you were attacking me for no reason.
Originally posted by look2me40
In my opinion, the moderators do over-react & make crude or mean statements towards people just because they ask a question. So what if they are uninformed and did not perform a 3 hour search to see if the answer to their question is already out there?
In my opinion, the moderators do over-react & make crude or mean statements towards people just because they ask a question. So what if they are uninformed and did not perform a 3 hour search to see if the answer to their question is already out there?
Originally posted by look2me40
But, in order to not stray off the subject I will just say Kev, if my statement about MOTM offended YOU directly, I apologize. It was not meant to be an attack on you.
But, in order to not stray off the subject I will just say Kev, if my statement about MOTM offended YOU directly, I apologize. It was not meant to be an attack on you.
Originally posted by look2me40
Yes I was uninformed, but I think you just could have been a tad reserved in your response to me.
Yes I was uninformed, but I think you just could have been a tad reserved in your response to me.
Originally posted by look2me40
You have the best car on the .org and I have asked you questions on numerous occasions and you have answered me promptly.
You have the best car on the .org and I have asked you questions on numerous occasions and you have answered me promptly.
Originally posted by look2me40
My statement was meant to be an opinion on the whole MOTM process. I was intending to light a fire to have it discussed. Apparently that did not work. Instead people are calling each other names...
My statement was meant to be an opinion on the whole MOTM process. I was intending to light a fire to have it discussed. Apparently that did not work. Instead people are calling each other names...
Originally posted by look2me40
Bill...your comments to me as well were a little overboard. Yes I have read the moderator rules. Yes I understand people should not voice opinions about things like MOTM on the forum and it should be taken in private...but I don't see that stopping too many people from doing it.
Bill...your comments to me as well were a little overboard. Yes I have read the moderator rules. Yes I understand people should not voice opinions about things like MOTM on the forum and it should be taken in private...but I don't see that stopping too many people from doing it.
Originally posted by look2me40
So I assumed it would be ok if I did it. That is the great thing about freedom of speech...I can make my opinions known, and you can call me a dumba$$ for it. But it got out of hand when you personally attacked me. I attacked a process...not you or anyone else.
So I assumed it would be ok if I did it. That is the great thing about freedom of speech...I can make my opinions known, and you can call me a dumba$$ for it. But it got out of hand when you personally attacked me. I attacked a process...not you or anyone else.
Originally posted by look2me40
Jane...I agree with most of your comments. But what I will say was that I posted my 'Can I get a vote for MOTM yet' threads to be sarcastic. I had no intention of wanting to be MOTM. I have NEVER said my car deserves it either. If I did, it was not intentional.
Jane...I agree with most of your comments. But what I will say was that I posted my 'Can I get a vote for MOTM yet' threads to be sarcastic. I had no intention of wanting to be MOTM. I have NEVER said my car deserves it either. If I did, it was not intentional.
Originally posted by look2me40
Again, those threads were meant to start a discussion on how we could possibly change the process. I feel it is a biased process because there are soooo many Maximas out there and it is left in the hands of only a few. All I wanted was to discuss the issue.
Again, those threads were meant to start a discussion on how we could possibly change the process. I feel it is a biased process because there are soooo many Maximas out there and it is left in the hands of only a few. All I wanted was to discuss the issue.
Originally posted by look2me40
Delio...Your comments were unecessary and I am trying very hard to just let them slide... You don't know me. You have no CLUE what my screename means. You slide right in to the thread and make comments about me? I was NEVER *****!ng about not being MOTM...nor would I ever do that. Your comments about me seeking attention? I am a 28 year old man. I get attention from my family and friends and the attention they provide me has nothing to do with my car. My hobby at this time is modding my car. When I get a mod, I do what 90% of the people on this forum do--I make a post and say 'Hey, check this out' Yes, I take pride in my car. I work hard on it and I put pictures on my webpage to show it off. Last time I checked, you and most everyone on this forum do the exact same thing. A lot of people put their cars in shows...again, it would be because they want to show it off. Anyways, in order to keep it short and nice...Delio, your attack on me was plain childish and you made yourself sound like an a$$ in my opinion. I am not going to respond to you after this thread so keep opening your mouth and make your attacks on me...I have said my peace.
Delio...Your comments were unecessary and I am trying very hard to just let them slide... You don't know me. You have no CLUE what my screename means. You slide right in to the thread and make comments about me? I was NEVER *****!ng about not being MOTM...nor would I ever do that. Your comments about me seeking attention? I am a 28 year old man. I get attention from my family and friends and the attention they provide me has nothing to do with my car. My hobby at this time is modding my car. When I get a mod, I do what 90% of the people on this forum do--I make a post and say 'Hey, check this out' Yes, I take pride in my car. I work hard on it and I put pictures on my webpage to show it off. Last time I checked, you and most everyone on this forum do the exact same thing. A lot of people put their cars in shows...again, it would be because they want to show it off. Anyways, in order to keep it short and nice...Delio, your attack on me was plain childish and you made yourself sound like an a$$ in my opinion. I am not going to respond to you after this thread so keep opening your mouth and make your attacks on me...I have said my peace.
Originally posted by look2me40
In my opinion, the process is flawed. I will keep it to myself from now on. Also in my opinion, the moderators, while they maintain they can say what they want to people, could be a little nicer to their fellow Maxima owners on occasion. Those are my opinions. I don't see a need to break out the flamethrowers...but if you enjoy a good bonfire, then so be it.
In my opinion, the process is flawed. I will keep it to myself from now on. Also in my opinion, the moderators, while they maintain they can say what they want to people, could be a little nicer to their fellow Maxima owners on occasion. Those are my opinions. I don't see a need to break out the flamethrowers...but if you enjoy a good bonfire, then so be it.
Kev...we are all smart people here. If we put our minds to it, there has to be a different way in doing it. Just because I can not think of that brilliant idea myself does not mean that nobody else can. I have stated this from the beginning. I do not, nor was I trying to get MOTM. I do not deserve it and I am stating that for the record. In those threads that keep getting posted I jokingly say things to people responding and I thought that was pretty evident. But in the end, none of this really matters. I will keep my comments to myself in the future. I have said what I need to say so on to the next thread.
Yes it is good that you take into consideration each MOTM member's contribution to this board and other areas but technically it is Maxima Of The Month, not Member Of The Month. In choosing the recipients of MOTM, I think the thoughts and decisions should be geared more toward the car itself in terms of creativity, uniqueness, and originality, not just "another 4th gen with a stillen body kit and clears". And to honor certain members who have contributed to the benefit the Org it wouldn't be a bad idea to maybe have a Member Of The Month as well as Maxima Of The Month.
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Posts: 901
why is MOTM such a big ****ing deal anyway....wow so its flawed...is that the end of your life? people who are probably in their 20's fighting on the internet over something like this!!
i dont see why this topic is such an issue...and i don't see why Kev has to be so ****ed over a topic like this
anyway....Im the new MOTM....why????
cause I said so!
j/k...jeff has my vote....only cause of that radar install tho
i dont see why this topic is such an issue...and i don't see why Kev has to be so ****ed over a topic like this
anyway....Im the new MOTM....why????
cause I said so!
j/k...jeff has my vote....only cause of that radar install tho
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Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 1,298
From: Lebanon, PA
Originally posted by maximus75
We should have a MOTM for each gen because it does mean a lot for some people and we only have 12 months and 5 gens. It may not be the like winning the gold metal but it shows that people have noticed all the hard work we put into our cars and they appreciate it. Just a thought.
We should have a MOTM for each gen because it does mean a lot for some people and we only have 12 months and 5 gens. It may not be the like winning the gold metal but it shows that people have noticed all the hard work we put into our cars and they appreciate it. Just a thought.
Originally posted by Pmp-n8a
i dont see why this topic is such an issue...and i don't see why Kev has to be so ****ed over a topic like this
anyway....Im the new MOTM....why????
cause I said so!
j/k...jeff has my vote....only cause of that radar install tho
i dont see why this topic is such an issue...and i don't see why Kev has to be so ****ed over a topic like this
anyway....Im the new MOTM....why????
cause I said so!
j/k...jeff has my vote....only cause of that radar install tho
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