GD for SECOND run of replacement rear shock mounts
something that is designed to retain the RATHER LARGE rubber seat that must sit on the mounts. the only thing that holds them in place with this design is pressure. there is absolutely nothings that prevents side to side movement of that very flexible donut shaped rubber seat. the facotry mounts, and the original extended travels, are designed so that seat fits into the mount, not just on it.
if you look at the pics of the top of the factory mounts, there is a concave, donut shaped ring that is stamped into the mount. that retains the rubber seat, and eliminates is ability to move. yours has nothing of the sort, and basically relies on the weight of the car to keep it in place. yes, this deign does work, but to charge $80 for a flat, round peice of metal that probably costs $5 to have made is pushing it. it should sell for about $25 instead of the $80 people are paying.
there is nothing in any of your advertisments that even mentions this. you dont tell people what the mount "is not" doing, you dont show any pics of the two mounts side by side, (uninstalled) and there is good reason for that. the way you have chosen to omit cetrain information is intentional, decietful, and prays upon buyer ignorance. there is no way for would be buyers to know that in the information you have chosen to provide them. i find your campaign to be no better than 90% of the infomercials on late nite tv.
for what you are charging people, your mounts should at least have a metal ring on the inside, or outside of where that rubber needs to be seated.
if you look at the pics of the top of the factory mounts, there is a concave, donut shaped ring that is stamped into the mount. that retains the rubber seat, and eliminates is ability to move. yours has nothing of the sort, and basically relies on the weight of the car to keep it in place. yes, this deign does work, but to charge $80 for a flat, round peice of metal that probably costs $5 to have made is pushing it. it should sell for about $25 instead of the $80 people are paying.
there is nothing in any of your advertisments that even mentions this. you dont tell people what the mount "is not" doing, you dont show any pics of the two mounts side by side, (uninstalled) and there is good reason for that. the way you have chosen to omit cetrain information is intentional, decietful, and prays upon buyer ignorance. there is no way for would be buyers to know that in the information you have chosen to provide them. i find your campaign to be no better than 90% of the infomercials on late nite tv.
for what you are charging people, your mounts should at least have a metal ring on the inside, or outside of where that rubber needs to be seated.
Originally Posted by Stuntin' 101
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Please stop spamming my thread. Start your own in the appropriate forum.
Originally Posted by Stuntin' 101
please post pics of what you are charging people $80 to buy..
Hey Ben was Stuntin'101 banned for posting on here? I see his last post was edited, so I do not know what was originally said on there.
As for my opinion on the mounts. It has not changed. I think they make a noticeable improvement in the quality of the car's ride. I am very happy that I picked them up. I have been running them for a while now with no problems
. I would gladly pay this amount again to get rid of that annoying little bounce my AGX's had on the freeway.
As for my opinion on the mounts. It has not changed. I think they make a noticeable improvement in the quality of the car's ride. I am very happy that I picked them up. I have been running them for a while now with no problems
. I would gladly pay this amount again to get rid of that annoying little bounce my AGX's had on the freeway.
Originally Posted by 1996blackmax
Hey Ben was Stuntin'101 banned for posting on here? I see his last post was edited, so I do not know what was originally said on there.
Thanks for your support.
After I get moved, I plan on rewokring the design and offering a v.2 model.
haters are everywhere...
Hello everybody, Ben
being the 10th person on the first production of these mounts, i have had them installed for a long time.
i live in brooklyn NY. now anybody who has been to brooklyn knows roads in brooklyn, local roads not highway, and they SUCK!!!!!!
i have h&r springs, and tokico illuminas. (try driving with 3 people in the back on a lowered car on sh!tty brooklyn roads) when the passengers get out, they're all holding their @ss from all the bumps.
with these mounts, the car feels better (back stops bouncing up and down) and now when my passengers (and grand/parents too) get out they're not holding their @ss from newly formed black and blues.
however there are those big bumps where you will feel the car's back bounch but that's usually when i'm going way too fast over bumps (another thing common in brooklyn)
the construction of the material is very good and very strong. if you go get the metal alone it will cost you $40-50 (it's very dense) and then the work needed to make the holes (drill press work - very accurate need to use VERY good Metal bit-material is STRONG!) then they're coated in a nice black finish, with the necessary bolts to install them. now you take all that and add shipping to it. do the math -- what do you get???
and take into account that Ben was the one who spent all his time/money/patience on doing the Research and Development for the product. ask him how many times he had to take off his rear struts to test fit them and do all the testing.
and he deserves something for that, not just credit.
so all you haters and people who talk **** without having tried the mounts..
If you find a better price, or a better alternative -- BUY IT
and then post on the org about how great it is (and i guarantee you will have somebody like that guy ^^ crap all over it)
ben you're doing a good job, don't let these rare
get to you.
-Vadim
if you don't believe me, come down to Brooklyn, i'll take you for a ride -- firsthand experience.
being the 10th person on the first production of these mounts, i have had them installed for a long time.
i live in brooklyn NY. now anybody who has been to brooklyn knows roads in brooklyn, local roads not highway, and they SUCK!!!!!!
i have h&r springs, and tokico illuminas. (try driving with 3 people in the back on a lowered car on sh!tty brooklyn roads) when the passengers get out, they're all holding their @ss from all the bumps.
with these mounts, the car feels better (back stops bouncing up and down) and now when my passengers (and grand/parents too) get out they're not holding their @ss from newly formed black and blues.
however there are those big bumps where you will feel the car's back bounch but that's usually when i'm going way too fast over bumps (another thing common in brooklyn)
the construction of the material is very good and very strong. if you go get the metal alone it will cost you $40-50 (it's very dense) and then the work needed to make the holes (drill press work - very accurate need to use VERY good Metal bit-material is STRONG!) then they're coated in a nice black finish, with the necessary bolts to install them. now you take all that and add shipping to it. do the math -- what do you get???
and take into account that Ben was the one who spent all his time/money/patience on doing the Research and Development for the product. ask him how many times he had to take off his rear struts to test fit them and do all the testing.
and he deserves something for that, not just credit.
so all you haters and people who talk **** without having tried the mounts..
If you find a better price, or a better alternative -- BUY IT
and then post on the org about how great it is (and i guarantee you will have somebody like that guy ^^ crap all over it)
ben you're doing a good job, don't let these rare
get to you.-Vadim
if you don't believe me, come down to Brooklyn, i'll take you for a ride -- firsthand experience.
Originally Posted by shadygrey
so am i right on the price of $75 shipped + $2.50 paypal fees??? If so please e-mail me paypal payment info. Thanks.
PM me your ZIP and I'll get you a quote.
MY EMAIL ADD IS MCMOET@HOTMAIL.COM I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE I WANT A SET
Originally Posted by blkmax9600
MY EMAIL ADD IS MCMOET@HOTMAIL.COM I NEED THIS IN MY LIFE I WANT A SET
The Cost of Steels
Originally Posted by vipervadim
the construction of the material is very good and very strong. if you go get the metal alone it will cost you $40-50 (it's very dense) and then the work needed to make the holes (drill press work - very accurate need to use VERY good Metal bit-material is STRONG!)
Sound fair?
-Sloppy
Ok. Just has these mounts installed 1 week ago with a brand new set of Illuminas and my H&R springs. I feel like i'm riding with a colony of mice in my trunk because my back wheels are squeaking so damn much. Even when I parked the car in the driveway and pushed down on the trunk you hear mad squeaks. What's the deal? I never had this problem before with Illuminas with the stock mounts. Anyway to remedy this?
On top of the rear shock assembly there is the shock absorber, a red looking gasket. Mine was in pretty bad shape, and I forgot to put it back on. I took Jsutters suggestion and just bought some gasket making material and use that.
Tom made a good comment that I am still yet to check out. The squeeking sounds like rubber being rubbed. Tom stated in another thread I started...
Tom made a good comment that I am still yet to check out. The squeeking sounds like rubber being rubbed. Tom stated in another thread I started...
Originally Posted by njmaxseltd
Make sure the nubs on the rubber bushings holes fit securely in the mount's center hole. That centers the shock and isolates the piston from the mount, which could be the source of some noise.
If the bushing nubs are all worn, get new ones. Tokico provides new bushings with their shocks.
If the bushing nubs are all worn, get new ones. Tokico provides new bushings with their shocks.

dont have to compress the spring to put these on, they sit on top of the shock assembly. I'm going to slide these on either tonight or tommorow night.
Did you do your suspension? do you remember this part being on or not? I believe this may not solve our problems. A rubber squeeking sound is different than a metal on metal sound. I belive it has to do with the way we seated the rubber bushing (the super thick one) Check out my quote from Tom a few posts up, I believe that will cure our squeeking noise.
It sucks because I rented a impact wrench and spring compressor, I would have to do that all over again in order to figure this out, if its not the gasket I spoke off. I'm going to try the gasket then the rubber bushing on the weekend if the problem still persists.
Dealer should have this part for about $10... a pair ( I think). You'll only need two.
I havent gotten an alignment yet, but I'm still trying to confirm this but. . . the rear shock assembly is non-adjustable and is in spec as long as your front is withing spec. If this is true, technicall you should be able to take off the rears and do what ever is needed, install back on, and drive with no need to get an alignment.
Originally Posted by shadygrey
Ok. Just has these mounts installed 1 week ago with a brand new set of Illuminas and my H&R springs. I feel like i'm riding with a colony of mice in my trunk because my back wheels are squeaking so damn much. Even when I parked the car in the driveway and pushed down on the trunk you hear mad squeaks. What's the deal? I never had this problem before with Illuminas with the stock mounts. Anyway to remedy this?
1. It's definitely related to Ben's mounts.
2. Replacing those red gaskets* that MDeezy mentioned makes no difference.
3. NJMaxseltd's suggestion that it's probably a rubber part making the squeaking sounds plausible to me. My guess is that it's something to do with the big upper rubber spring seat (the crenellated one, i.e. it looks like a castle turret), not the bushing. Nothing about the bushing changes with Ben's mounts. What does change with Ben's mounts is the interface between the mount and the rubber spring seat. It doesn't fit as well against the flat disk. With the stock mounts, the seat tucks up in there perfectly. So I think that interface is the source of the squeaking but it's just a hypothesis.
4. The squeaking is extremely annoying and makes my Maxima sound like El Cheapomobile.
5. Putting on a RSTB with some preload totally eliminated the squeaking...for a while.
*These red gaskets are just cardboard by the way. I made better-than-stock gaskets by purchasing gasket material AKA cardboard at an auto parts store, tracing the old shriveled up ones as best as I could, and cutting out new ones with scissors/X-acto knife. After taking the time to take apart the rear suspension and reinstall with my new thicker gaskets, I heard NO reduction in squeaking.
Originally Posted by shadygrey
Another question, are these mounts supposed to be installed along with the stock strut mounts?
Originally Posted by VQuick
I just came across this thread. I believe I was one of the first to buy Ben's mounts. I did not have squeaking right away after installation but at some point thereafter it started and it took me a while to figure out what was causing it. My conclusions:
1. It's definitely related to Ben's mounts.
2. Replacing those red gaskets* that MDeezy mentioned makes no difference.
3. NJMaxseltd's suggestion that it's probably a rubber part making the squeaking sounds plausible to me.....
1. It's definitely related to Ben's mounts.
2. Replacing those red gaskets* that MDeezy mentioned makes no difference.
3. NJMaxseltd's suggestion that it's probably a rubber part making the squeaking sounds plausible to me.....
Freeway was having this problem and he replaced those bushing and the noise was gone. He even trimmed the old bushing so they were level and that reduced/eliminated the noise.
Do you mean the small 1-1.5" diameter bushing? That could be the cause, but I did not have any squeaking whatsoever after I installed TEIN springs with Illuminas. Only after I installed Ben's strut mounts did I get squeaking. It was major squeaking too, I never had any squeaking before, and I've not heard of people with old stock springs (and therefore old rubber bushings) having squeaking issues. Have you?
Originally Posted by VQuick
Do you mean the small 1-1.5" diameter bushing? That could be the cause, but I did not have any squeaking whatsoever after I installed TEIN springs with Illuminas. Only after I installed Ben's strut mounts did I get squeaking. It was major squeaking too, I never had any squeaking before, and I've not heard of people with old stock springs (and therefore old rubber bushings) having squeaking issues. Have you?

I had no squeeking before installing bens' mounts, but I know after experiencing the sqeeking and then replacing the bushing the sqeeking went away.
Man I have not even stepped in here once.....
I had/have the squeak on my drivers side rear. On all attempts one thing remained constant.
Whether I did work or not, when the car was in the air for a period of time, the noise would go away for a period of time. This lead me to many false "fixes" before I realized this.
Using MDeezy's picture I have went through these steps
-I thought it was the upper mount (MZMTG's) rubbing the inside of the strut tower and I wrapped it. FALSE cure #1
-I thought it was piece 2 in the dia. and 1st enlarged my stock ones, then replaced them completely with ES bushings I had around. FC #2
-Taking apart the assembly after talking back and forth with Deezy, I saw that #6 WAS pretty squashed from however many miles of use. I enlarged the hole in the existing bushing and re-installed.
THIS has been the most progress I have made. It has been about a month and I get squeaking a.) rarely and b.) only when it is colder.
The only problem related to these long travel shock mounts I have had is getting the top mount to be EXACTLY in line with my bottom mount on my drivers side rear. My PS rear is perfect.
In the near future I am going to be replacing #6 on both sides as well as putting the stock rear mounts on for the time being.
I agree with MDeezy and do NOT beleive at this time that the noise is directly related to these rear shock mounts.
After I have done the work, and had a couple weeks for things to settle, I will report back. After that time period, I will more than likely put the LT rear mounts back on and give a similar follow-up.
I had/have the squeak on my drivers side rear. On all attempts one thing remained constant.
Whether I did work or not, when the car was in the air for a period of time, the noise would go away for a period of time. This lead me to many false "fixes" before I realized this.
Using MDeezy's picture I have went through these steps
-I thought it was the upper mount (MZMTG's) rubbing the inside of the strut tower and I wrapped it. FALSE cure #1
-I thought it was piece 2 in the dia. and 1st enlarged my stock ones, then replaced them completely with ES bushings I had around. FC #2
-Taking apart the assembly after talking back and forth with Deezy, I saw that #6 WAS pretty squashed from however many miles of use. I enlarged the hole in the existing bushing and re-installed.
THIS has been the most progress I have made. It has been about a month and I get squeaking a.) rarely and b.) only when it is colder.
The only problem related to these long travel shock mounts I have had is getting the top mount to be EXACTLY in line with my bottom mount on my drivers side rear. My PS rear is perfect.
In the near future I am going to be replacing #6 on both sides as well as putting the stock rear mounts on for the time being.
I agree with MDeezy and do NOT beleive at this time that the noise is directly related to these rear shock mounts.
After I have done the work, and had a couple weeks for things to settle, I will report back. After that time period, I will more than likely put the LT rear mounts back on and give a similar follow-up.
Originally Posted by MDeezy

I had no squeeking before installing bens' mounts, but I know after experiencing the sqeeking and then replacing the bushing the sqeeking went away.





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