Actually thats the reason I am looking into getting these mounts. I've been using the act/fidanza combo for the last 80k mi. The shudder is avoidable, but I miss smooth stock engagement after driving my friends stock 5-speed maxima. The act clutch may cause shudder, but will almost never be needed to be replaced.

Does anyone know if these mounts will decrease shudder associated with an ACT clutch?

 

divisions...I have the exact setup (act/fidanza), but for only 2,000 miles. The shudder on engagement isn't as bad as it was during break-in (it's actually a lot better) but it is still there. Hopefully this will work. Anyone know from personal experience if they will help?

Chris

 

just got off the phone with Brian and Lori.....ordered the ES motor mount inserts....great customer service and very nice people.....ordering was a breeze with Cattman Performance....i wouldn't hesitate to do business with them again....

 

I use to have a 4th gen with the ACT/stock flywheel.....and my chatter was pretty darn minimal.....if I didnt want any chatter at all I just launch at a higher RPM....engages smooth as butter......but as with the ES mounts helping....in my opinion I think the ES mounts coupled with act/fidanza will increase vibrations.....and I say this is becuz........act = aftermarket stiff clutch......ES mounts = aftermarket stiff inserts........ACT+ES = much stiffer than stock......

anyway i'm not totally sure....correct me if i am wrong....

 

Just talked with Brian and got my order in... Can't wait....

 

You are correct...

 

With an ACT clutch, the chatter is caused by the engine and tranny vibrating as a unit, right? I figure that if the mounts are stiffer it will limit the vibration.

External causes of clutch chatter include loose or broken engine or transmission mounts, misalignment of the chassis and drivetrain components, worn or damaged U-joints or CV joints, a loose transmission crossmember, a worn or bent release fork, or loose rear left spring bushings or spring U-bolt nuts.

taken from http://www.aa1car.com/library/2004/bf40459.htm

WHAT COULD BE THE CAUSES FOR CLUTCH CHATTER?

CHATTER PROBLEMS CAN BE CAUSED BY MANY PROBLEMS. POSSIBLE CAUSES MAY BE AS FOLLOWS:

FLYWHEEL HAS EXCESSIVE RUN-OUT.
FLY WHEEL WAS NOT RESURFACED BEFORE THE NEW CLUTCH WAS INSTALLED.
FLYWHEEL WAS RESURFACED IMPROPERLY OR HAS IMPROPER SURFACE FINISH.
FLYWHEEL HAS SEVERE HARD SPOTS OR HOT SPOTS.
FLYWHEEL RESURFACED IMPROPERLY (I.E. INCORRECT FLYWHEEL STEP).
DAMAGED OR EXCESSIVELY WORN CV JOINTS.
BAD U-JOINTS IN DRIVE SHAFT OR U-JOINTS MISALIGNED.
EXCESSIVE BACKLASH IN DIFFERENTIAL.
EXCESSIVE DRIVE-LINE ANGLE.
BAD LEAF SPRINGS, BUSHINGS OR MOUNTS.
IMPROPER GEAR RATIO VERSUS TIRE DIAMETER.
DEFECTIVE PRESSURE PLATE AND/OR DISC.
DISC HAS INADEQUATE OR NO MARCEL (NOT ENOUGH CUSHION BETWEEN THE FRICTION FACINGS).
OIL OR GREASE CONTAMINATION ON CLUTCH FACINGS.
WORN OR DAMAGED CLUTCH LINKAGE.
BENT COVER ASSEMBLY AND/OR DISC .
IMPROPERLY TUNED ENGINE.
WORN OR DAMAGED ENGINE MOUNTS OR TRANSMISSION MOUNTS.

taken from http://www.roadraceengineering.com/clutchwarranty.htm

 

let us know how it turns out... i'm betting more chatter myself though...

 

I don't want to be the guinea pig. Trying to see if anyone else wants to be it.

 

I am interested in all parts that deal with a 2000--

+ ES1114 Motor mount inserts 1995-03 Maxima - $79.95 (MSRP $120)
+ ES3118 Front control arm set 2000-03 Maxima - $49.95 (MSRP $75)
+ ES7108 Rear trailing arm set 2000-03 Maxima - $64.95 (MSRP $95)

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Ordered!

 

So what all do i need to order to strengthen my suspension for a 95 SE?

 

I just noticed now that the 6spd bushings are only 18 bucks....what are the benefits of these bushings? sorry for asking such a noob-ish question....

i just might order these if the improvement is noticeable...since they are so cheap.....also any word on a STS for the 6spd? I would like to swap in the STS and bushings at the same time for a BIG improvement over stock.....flushing my MT-90 with new one would be awesome too

 

Thanks for answering Brian. So basically, the only diferent's between manual and automatic is the frame of the mounts. That cool, I really hate taking chance's when it come to my max, that's why I always make sure. So do you think I should go for it??? I kinda really need it.

Thanks
Jay

 

Just purchased the Mount inserts and 6spped bushings. Merry Xmas to me.

 

Dedgummit! I've got to figure a way to fit these in the budget over the holidays.

 

Woohoo!! I can finally recommend some toys for the 5th gen guys now that the ES bushings are available! I've been modding the 4th gen control arm bushings to fit for a long time and that was getting old.


The Z33 rear bushings are indeed liquid filled. I had one leaking on a customer's car and I pulled it off, cleaned it up, and filled them both with urethane. HUGE improvement in the rear end handling on the car. he was very happy. I'm sure the ES bushings will be better as well due to the installation ease of them compared to the ones I made.

Brian, I'd like to chat with you about these as well and will reply to your email as soon as I get some parts shipped out.

 

Brian,
I would like to order all the bushings sets for 2K2 maxima:

+ ES1114 Motor mount inserts 1995-03 Maxima - $79.95 (MSRP $120)
+ ES1115 Shifter (6-speed) bushing set 2002-2003 - $18.95 (MSRP $29)
+ ES3118 Front control arm set 2000-03 Maxima - $49.95 (MSRP $75)
+ ES7108 Rear trailing arm set 2000-03 Maxima - $64.95 (MSRP $95)

That comes to total = $ 213.80

How much would the shipping be to 19044?
I'd like to pay with paypal.

Thanks,
TonyB

 

Brian, or Matt, I was just reading the installation instructions for the lower tie bar, and i wanted to take the advice and get the ES Poly. bushings...but im not sure which i sould get? the front and rear arms and thats it? or is there more i need to get?

also, i dont know if it matters, but i also have a progress rear sway that would be in this, if that means i should get more or different things. thanks guys.

 

You'll have to decide if its something you want, you'll be a bit of a pioneer to put it on your auto - all I can say is that I'd be quite surprised if it didn't work and I think you'll be pleased with the results if it does. Its assumed that most of the value of the mounts is in hard launches, and sure it helps with that, but I've found that stabilizing the engine mass affects the behavior of the car in a variety of ways, under a variety of circumstances.

I'll mention that the variable you can control on the mounts, which could come into play, is that the pin in the center protrudes on one side and is fairly flush on the other, so it should be pressed into the mount in the direction that best replicates the position of the pin on the stock mount. The pins are centered in the ES bushings, rather than raised above the center point as in stock, but this is appropriate (since they're denser material, they don't sag like the stock ones do), I'm talking about how far the pin protrudes from the face of the mount.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

The only actual suspension bushings being released for the 2000-2003 right now are the front control arm and rear trailing arm bushings, so those are what you'd want to start with. Your Progress bar won't conflict with the bushings in any way - they complement each other.

Brian C Catts
Cattman Performance

 

thanks brian. i assume that those are what matt is referring to (unless he meant the 4th gen with that notation).

oh, brian, on a side note...when will you guys be getting more front strut tower bars in stock?

 

Up until I read this post, NO bushings for the 5th gen were available, and only the front control arm bushings for the 4th gen were listed.. now there are front and rears for both cars- that's a VERY good thing!

And I highly suggest replacing them while you have the stuff apart. it will make the benefits of my LTB much more noticeable and you'll be very happy. you also don't have to go through the hassles of preloading the suspension before torquing down the bolts, since the ES bushings are multiple pieces that pivot anyway. (the factory ones are 1-piece molded and must be preloaded before torquing down the suspension)

 

haha, well it looks like i added another product onto my xmas list.

thanks guys

 

Oh man, Matt's tempting me to buy the LTB at the same time... Argghh1hghghgh1@!@!#!#!#1!!!!one

 

I think going to give it a shot, if it don't work I'll just sell it to my best friend with his 98'. Thanks for everything Brian, next week I'll order it.

PS Whatz the status on the headers. How much, plus shipping to 11434.

 

I DEFFINATELY wanna get in on this, because I have a bad rear engine mount. Can you give me an idea on when you'd ship + ES1114 Motor mount inserts 1995-03 Maxima - $79.95 (MSRP $120)
AND, will this fix a broken mount, or not so much?(Need to check under the car and see just how bad the mount is) THANKS!!

 

I heard from him that he hopes everything arrives by Christmas.

As for a broken mount... so long as the metal brackets aren't broken, it'll fix it because the broken part is likely the rubber/oil-filled part inside the metal mount, and this insert completely replaces that unit. You need to take it to a shop where they can remove the mount, and use a hydraulic press to press out the old rubber mount, then press this one in.

 

any and all pics of any Energy Suspension products will be posted here. so far i have shifter, motor, and subframe pictures. i am going to go install the subframes now, so i'll have pics of the old ones plus the installed ones fairly soon.

pictures available at http://polo.lxanyc.com/2002MaximaSE/EnergySuspension/

 

Marco, how did you gut out the old motor mount ? What kind of tools did you use ?

 

at first i thought it'd be cake....but then when i finally got it out, i saw that it really doesn't fit it. it does, but only by "pressing" it in. i know this sounds dumb, but i even tried getting a big old cement block and trying to push it in, but nothing. since i wanted to drive the car, i went to a shop around the area. told him i wanted it right then and there, it was also 6 and he was going home, so he stayed late, and charged me 80 for a half hour job. if you go during regular hours, i don't see it costing more than $40. it's a very quick job. and again, he said that in order to really get that rubber out, he had to heat it up, so he practically melted to the insides out and then greased up and slid the new piece in.

 

Wow .... this is a really clean job he did http://polo.lxanyc.com/2002MaximaSE/...uttedOut02.JPG . Thanks for the reply.

 

Subframe bushings installed....very easy job. notice my time stamp. car jacked up at 1:23....i'm at my computer at 1:45.

http://polo.lxanyc.com/2002MaximaSE/...frameBushings/

 

can someone answer post #51 for me please.

 

So the best way to do this is... hold up the engine with a cherry picker and leave it attached to the side engine mount. Then remove the crossmember with the front and back engine mounts. Then remove the engine mounts and take them to a shop with a press. Correct?

 

das is correct...

 

Any pics of these motor mounts?. Are these inserts for the factory mounts or a full replacements of the mounts?

 

uh, did you read the thread. go to post#68 and click on the link...it has ALL THE PICTURES TO EVERYTHING.

 

Is Energy Suspension going to make a rear trailing arm set for the 4th gen Maxima? I'm interested in ultimately replacing every bushing I can so I'm thinking I'll order the three ES sets you have now for 4th gens and then others as they are available. Do you think this Australian company's bushings will be on par with ES's?

 

I just ordered the LCA and FSB bushings for my 95. Thanks for this great deal. Let me know when you get them to ship. Thanks again. I'd also be extremely interested in the bushings VQuick mentioned. It seems that ES carries a wide variety of stuff for every Nissan but the Maxima. More is better. Keep up the good work!

 

I would like to get the Motor Mounts and Shifter Bushings for my 03 6 speed.