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Old Dec 27, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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I just ordered everything except the motor mount inserts for my '99. I told the guy who took my order to wait until the lower subframe set and sway bar end link bushings arrived and ship my order in one shipment. Thanks for the great deal, Brian!
Old Dec 27, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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recieved my 6 speed bushings. I have no idea how to install these things yet, any ideas?
Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:08 AM
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ES5118 Front sway bar frame set 1995-1999 Maxima - $8.95 (MSRP $12)
Will this work on an '88? Front swaybar diameter is around 32mm, I think. Also looking for a RSB and bushing kit, will one from a 3rd gen fit, or is ADDCO the only one making one specific to the 2nd gen?
Old Dec 28, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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The front sway bar diameter on a 4th gen is 20mm. I don't think ES makes anything for 2nd gens...but they do for Datsun 810s!

http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/nis2.html
Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
The front sway bar diameter on a 4th gen is 20mm. I don't think ES makes anything for 2nd gens...but they do for Datsun 810s!

http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/nis2.html

I'm still trying to sort this out, but I think that some 95+ Maximas have a 22mm FSB.

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mjg
recieved my 6 speed bushings. I have no idea how to install these things yet, any ideas?

I haven't found the time to put mine in, so I can't be much help, other than to say that 4 pairs are for where the nylon frame the shifter sits in mounts to the car and the 5th pair is for where the shifter pivots.

I've heard from a couple of customers who I've encouraged to write in to the thread and share their experiences. They seem very pleased with the results.

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Old Dec 28, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattman
I'm still trying to sort this out, but I think that some 95+ Maximas have a 22mm FSB.

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I'll paste what I just wrote to BEJAY:

Originally Posted by BEJAY1
What year and model is that 20mm from exactly? I measured my '97SE and it was 21.3mm. Cattman mentioned today he thought 20mm and 22mm were the only 2 choices.

Thanks,
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I confess my only sources for this are that two bushing manufacturers list it as 20mm.

http://www.energysuspension.com/pages/nis2.html
http://www.p-s-t.com/sport/sipgswaybu.html

I've never seen the exact diameter mention on the Org. From that thread in the 5th gen forum, the '01 SE has a different part number from the '01 GXE and GLE, and you wrote that the same is true of 4th gens.

Galo wrote "well, it could be they have the same OD -that would allow them to forego having different bushings and possibly different end links as well while making one bar softer than the other" and that would make sense.

Also, I checked my 1998 FSM (electronic version) and it says that all models have the same size sway bar (but I do think this would not preclude SEs having stiffer sway bars of the same size, since this is just a dimensional specification):



So it looks like the bars for all trim levels (at least in 1998) are 21mm but people seem to have had no problems with bushings made by companies who think the bars are 20mm. I'm not too worried about this issue.

I doubt Nissan changed the sway bar diameter during the 4th generation but who knows. If people with FSMs from other years could speak up, we'd know for sure.
Old Dec 28, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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Both FSM's I have say 21 mm. One is 99. One is 95.
Old Dec 28, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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B, I think the electronic FSM we have is actually 1998, FYI.
Old Dec 28, 2004 | 11:10 PM
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Really? Oh well. Two FSM's have the same size listed.
Old Dec 30, 2004 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
The front sway bar diameter on a 4th gen is 20mm. I don't think ES makes anything for 2nd gens...but they do for Datsun 810s!
I don't think a 810's sway bars would be anywhere near the right dimensions, because it's RWD, thus having a vastly different weight bias ratio than the FWD, engine ahead of the front axle, U11.

Thanks anyway.
Old Dec 30, 2004 | 10:02 AM
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Yeah, I wasn't implying the 810 would work, just surprised to see it there, that's all.
Old Dec 30, 2004 | 11:57 AM
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Received them!

Just wanted to thank Brian and the crew for such good service. I just wanted to post some pics of them out of the box-

Front Control Arm Bushing Set:


Rear Trailing Arm Bushing Set:


Front/Rear Motor Mount Set:


Probably going to wait until I have the Subframe bushings too (need to order them soon) until I have these installed.
Old Dec 30, 2004 | 03:32 PM
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Ordered all available for the 5.5 gen.
Thanks Brian!!!

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Old Dec 31, 2004 | 12:02 PM
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I installed the Motor mounts yesterday. I must say that it was a Huge PITA finding someone willing to press. the inserts in place. Everyone was worries that they were going to screw it up. Finally found a place to do it but they charged me $50.

After all of that I will say it was worth it. The far feels much better. I also had a bad motor mount so I am sure that was causing some problems. I am also a little disappointed with Energy Suspension at the lack of any instructions with the 6spd bushings.

One last thing. The excess vibration that I experienced with my buddy's PR mounts does not exist with the ES ones.
Old Dec 31, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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I'm trying to call right now, can't get through. Oh well, I'll keep trying. That is what I get for trying to get in on the last day huh?
Old Dec 31, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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I also tried calling earlier today but could'nt get through
Old Dec 31, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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I got mine today. They should be installed by March and I'll try to remeber to post my opinions on what they did for the car.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Hi Brian,

I'll take everything that fits my 2000SE 5spd. You can hold off shipping until you have all the new parts. I think you have my address and credit card info?
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 12:27 PM
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I didnt get any instructions with the motor mounts. Is there a place where I can download them? I agree the lack of instructions for the 6spd bushings is lame.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by bgates1654
I didnt get any instructions with the motor mounts. Is there a place where I can download them? I agree the lack of instructions for the 6spd bushings is lame.
You can read the instructions for the motor mounts off spirilis's photo here:

http://spirilis.net/gallery/esbushings/DSC01441?full=1
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 02:55 PM
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ES Bushing Sale Goes On!

Hi,

I'm sorry to read that some weren't able to get through on Friday, my ordering service was closed on New Years Eve, so no 800 #, and my 520 line was swamped most of the day with last minute bushing buyers.

Given the momentum of the sale, it doesn't make sense to stop now, so we're good with these prices until at least the middle of the month.
I've ordered more motor mounts and they'll arrive with the new ES1116 front subframe bushings and 95-99 front swaybar endlink bushings (see below) in the 7-10 January timeframe, but we're taking orders now.

Note that we've also added the front swaybar endlink bushings for 95-99 Maximas/I30s to the inventory (part #ES4803 for $6.99/full set). This is not a new part, but we'd overlooked its availability. We've made these up as full 4-piece sets rather than selling them individually as ES does.

Give us a call next week at the office (520.730.9309, 9-6 MST), or my ordering service (800.759.9920, 8-5 MST) and we'll be glad to continue taking bushing orders at the current prices. Our policy is to not charge the credit cards more than 24 hours before shipping (though I'll apologize to three customers whose cards were mistakenly charged for backordered bushings last week).

Anyway, thanks everyone for your response to this promotion, and I hope everyone has a great New Year! [I also hope someone will post a good how-to on installing these 6-speed bushings, I want to put mine in too! I have a very few images from Polo that might be helpful, but they don't tell the whole story. Let me know by PM if you want them. ]

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Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:23 PM
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Brian - I want the whole set for a 4th Gen auto. Please PM me with total price and I will Paypal ASAP. Thanks and appreciate the deal.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 05:26 PM
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i just realized that those pictures in the instructions are my instructions.
also just got an email from nate (rep) that he wants me to prep my car up and take various pictures as it will be used for when they update their catalog and add the maxima to their list. NICE!!!
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 07:58 PM
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Thanks Brian, you are an example for all vendors. I'll be calling in on Monday. now i need sleep, I get to drive from NY to Fl at 5am tomorrow.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattman
Note that we've also added the front swaybar endlink bushings for 95-99 Maximas/I30s to the inventory (part #ES4803 for $6.99/full set). This is not a new part, but we'd overlooked its availability. We've made these up as full 4-piece sets rather than selling them individually as ES does.
I curently have the frame bushings that I just ordered. Can I order just the endlink bushings? Obviously, I don't need more frame bushings.
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:04 PM
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Four endlink bushings are needed, two on each side. The 4-piece set Brian mentioned is just front swaybar endlink bushings, no frame bushings.

(http://www.courtesyparts.com/energys...on/maxima.html)
Old Jan 1, 2005 | 10:41 PM
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Thanks for clarifying Tom. I haven't seen that part of the car in a while.
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I curently have the frame bushings that I just ordered. Can I order just the endlink bushings? Obviously, I don't need more frame bushings.
Sorry if I wasn't clear. To confirm, there are four endlink bushings (upper and lower half for each side) in the set but it doesn't include the frame bushings. These endlink bushings are sold individually by ES, but I'll bag them up in sets of four since that's what's needed to do the replacement.

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Old Jan 2, 2005 | 06:59 PM
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Pardon my newbishness for the following question.

I would like very much to do this (every bushing possible) for my 96 SE. But I heard that the SE has different bushings than the other models, meaning possibly that I already have something almost as good, if older. (?true?)

My other question is this- for a rookie, how realistic is it for a newb wrench to install these? I havent done all the homework for writeups- But even so, it sounds like alot of work to do them all. Its out of the question for the engine mounts I would guess, but what about the suspension bushings? Is there something with a good bang-for-buck re: results to effort?

Thanks for your patience and any help
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
You can read the instructions for the motor mounts off spirilis's photo here:

http://spirilis.net/gallery/esbushings/DSC01441?full=1
all i can get is 3 pics?????
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Spaniard
Pardon my newbishness for the following question.

I would like very much to do this (every bushing possible) for my 96 SE. But I heard that the SE has different bushings than the other models, meaning possibly that I already have something almost as good, if older. (?true?)

My other question is this- for a rookie, how realistic is it for a newb wrench to install these? I havent done all the homework for writeups- But even so, it sounds like alot of work to do them all. Its out of the question for the engine mounts I would guess, but what about the suspension bushings? Is there something with a good bang-for-buck re: results to effort?

Thanks for your patience and any help
The SE stock bushings are indeed stiffer than the GLE/GXE bushings but they're all rubber. The Energy Suspension bushings are polyurethane which is stiffer still and much more durable than any rubber. They're worth it even if you have an SE (I do and I'm getting everything).

It's worth it even more with a '96 Maxima. Unless you've ever had your bushings replaced by the dealer, yours are probably worn and have excessive play. This can lead to a very loose feel and even greater vibrations if metal is touching metal.

They're really not all that hard to install. You can do everything yourself except perhaps the motor mounts and one of the control arm bushings, which supposedly require a press. Just take the control arm/motor mount somewhere for that.

Where's Broaner? He always has the you-can-do-it words!
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 08:40 PM
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Multi Link Beam Suspension

ES7108 Rear trailing arm set 2000-03 Maxima - $64.95

Brian, Is this for the Multi Link Beam Suspension on the rear of the Maxima?
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Cattman
I've recently found another source that lists these suspension and steering bushing applications for 95-99 Maximas:

Front alignment set
Front control arms
Front swaybar frame mount
Front swaybar links
Rear swaybar links
Rear swaybar mount
Rear control arms
Rear trailing arms

Originally Posted by 95maxrider
Any news on exactly what these parts are? The alignment set sounds interesting. The ES front sway bar bushings are for the frame, so the front swaybar link set they sell would be a completely new set, correct? Any bushings for the steering rack or for anything having to do directly with the steering?

We do have a mini swaybar somewhere in the beam I believe, so that's what they could be talking about.

I would like to see what kind of struts and springs they have available for our car. Sounds like a promising company.
I'll ask again....

Are there any plans to make shifter and rear trailing arm bushings for the 4th gen?
What are the expected benefits of the lower subframe bushings?

Any plans for other 4th gen parts? Thank you.
Old Jan 2, 2005 | 11:06 PM
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This is getting confusing, so how many bushings sets are there for the 4th gen?
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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These are all the bushing sets available for the 4th gen:

#ES1114 Motor mount inserts 1995-03 Maxima - $79.95 (MSRP $120)
#ES3111 Front control arm set 1995-1999 Maxima - $28.95 (MSRP $50)
#ES5118 Front sway bar frame set 1995-1999 Maxima - $8.95 (MSRP $12)
#ES1116 Front lower subframe set 1995-2003 Maxima - $21.95 (MSRP $31)
#ES4803 Front sway bar endlink bushing set of 4 - $6.99
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by VQuick
These are all the bushing sets available for the 4th gen:

#ES1114 Motor mount inserts 1995-03 Maxima - $79.95 (MSRP $120)
#ES3111 Front control arm set 1995-1999 Maxima - $28.95 (MSRP $50)
#ES5118 Front sway bar frame set 1995-1999 Maxima - $8.95 (MSRP $12)
#ES1116 Front lower subframe set 1995-2003 Maxima - $21.95 (MSRP $31)
#ES4803 Front sway bar endlink bushing set of 4 - $6.99
Thanks for the info VQuick. So as a noob wrench I can do all of these except 1 control arm and the motor mounts. I am on the brink of ordering, but I figured I should ask these 2 questions before I do (To figure out if I should get all of em)

1) Anyone have an idea of what I would get charged for having the motor mounts installed by a shop?
2) Do the others all come with instructions or would I have to look for a writeup or just figure it out with .org help?

Thanks
Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by hct67
ES7108 Rear trailing arm set 2000-03 Maxima - $64.95

Brian, Is this for the Multi Link Beam Suspension on the rear of the Maxima?

Sorry to be so slow. Yes, these bushings are a part of that suspension, although I really couldn't tell you exactly where they go.

If anyone who has installed any of these suspension bushings could provide pictures, it would be helpful. I was going to have mine installed this week, but my 02 will be spending that time at the body shop

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 95maxrider
Originally Posted by Cattman
I've recently found another source that lists these suspension and steering bushing applications for 95-99 Maximas:

Front alignment set
Front control arms
Front swaybar frame mount
Front swaybar links
Rear swaybar links
Rear swaybar mount
Rear control arms
Rear trailing arms



I'll ask again....

Are there any plans to make shifter and rear trailing arm bushings for the 4th gen?
What are the expected benefits of the lower subframe bushings?

Any plans for other 4th gen parts? Thank you.

The suspension-related bushings each do their own thing, but overall they have the effect of taking a lot of the sloppiness out of the steering response and, to some extent, keeping car steadier and its direction "truer" over uneven road surfaces.

I notice that turn-in and transitioning is sharper and more precise, which only makes sense as you replace much softer rubber compounds that are also worn to varying extents. [I'll point out that this is my impression from putting these parts on other cars, I don't have them on mine yet.]

I am not aware of ES's plans for additional bushing part #s, they seem to keep that information pretty close.

Regarding your comment about the Australian company I mentioned as a source of 95-99 bushings - yes, they make a real nice set of struts and springs for the Maxima. I think they'd be a great fit for the GLE owner who wants a nicely controlled ride and better handling performance, without giving up ride quality.

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Old Jan 3, 2005 | 09:42 PM
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Thanks for the info VQuick. So as a noob wrench I can do all of these except 1 control arm and the motor mounts.
Don't quote me on that, I know those are probably the two hardest but I have yet to do any bushings installations myself so there might be some others that are somewhat of a pain to install.

Like most work on cars, none of it is truly difficult (if you have the proper tools). But that doesn't mean that a lot of it can be confusing, frustrating, and time consuming. Often it is, but that's why the Org's here to help out.

There seems to be a ton of threads on bushing installation already on the Org, search with the Poor Man's search if you can't do a real search.



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